Where Am I?
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WHERE AM I? is a new documentary about the skills we use to find our way around. Whether you are an Inuit hunter, a foraging insect, or just someone out for a stroll, your brain is performing one of its most fundamental services -- it's navigating. Why are some of us good at finding our way, while others are not?
WHERE AM I? explores the strategies we use to figure out where we are - and where we are going. Are some strategies simply better than others? It also looks at the navigation skills we share with animals, and some animal skills we wish we had. Are you simply born a terrible navigator? If you aren't good at finding your way, what are the solutions? The program examines how GPS has affected wayfinding, and why some researchers think it's so bad for our brains that it may even lead to early senility.
Several experts weigh in on the topic including neuroscientists Giuseppe Iaria, Sue Becker, Hugo Spiers, and Veronique Bohbot; insect biologist, Tom Collett; psychologist Nora Newcombe, head of the Spatial Learning and Intelligence Centre at Temple University; geographer and behaviorist Dan Montello; Ken Jennings, 'Jeopardy' champion and author of 'Maphead'; roboticist and biologist Michael Mangan; and psychologist Colin Ellard.
'Where Am I? is a wonderful example of how spatial cognition research can be presented to a wide audience without sacrificing detail. It is fantastic to see so many excellent colleagues performing their best to promote spatial cognition research. A perfect combination of overview and depth--the film is a little masterpiece that will become an integral part of my lectures.' Alexander Klipple, Associate Professor for Geographical Information Science, Director of Human Factors in GIScience Lab, Penn State University
'This documentary would have multiple applications in biological sciences, psychology, sociology, and geography curricula.' Vincent M. Livoti, Long Island University, School Library Journal
'We have all taken a longer route than was necessary, received terrible directions, or become hopelessly lost. Where Am I? provides interdisciplinary explanations for why these things happen through interviews with leading experts in psychology, spatial cognition, neuroscience, and biology. It does an excellent job of blending current scientific research and spatial theory with real-world applications to describe spatial behaviors, what brain structures underlie navigation, and why this knowledge is important for technology development. I have worked in the field of human spatial cognition for 15 years and think this is the most rigorous, informative, and entertaining film on the topic. Where Am I? is an excellent resource for anybody interested in navigation, whether they be students, researchers, hikers, orienteers, or anyone wanting to better understand one of the most important and unappreciated behaviors of daily life.' Dr. Nicholas A. Giudice, Associate Professor of Spatial Informatics, School of Computing and Information Science, University of Maine
'A thoughtful analysis of how navigators from honey bees to London cabbies are able to move through natural and built environments. The film features engaging interviews with a host of researchers. The narration is supported by remarkable locational footage, including a wonderful interview with Inuit hunters describing how they navigate across barren arctic landscapes.' Stephen Hirtle, Professor of Information Sciences, Director of Spatial Information Research Group, University of Pittsburgh
'This engaging program provides insights into the science behind the everyday activities of mental mapping and wayfinding. It encompasses a broad spectrum of research approaches along with case studies that range from the lowly ant to humans with unusual spatial abilities (both good and bad). Amidst the brain images, virtual-reality environments, lab studies and experts' observations, Where Am I? illustrates how evolution has made the human brain into a multi-purpose device with some sacrifice: Capabilities that are built directly into the neural structures of lower organisms require effortful feats of cognition by people, and not all succeed.' Roberta Klatzky, Professor of Psychology, Carnegie Mellon University, Co-editor of Embodiment, Ego-Space, and Action
'Urban planners, public health specialists, advocates, and any person interested in making cities into more livable, healthy places can use Where Am I both to make a case for exploration and independent mobility and as a cautionary account of how navigation technologies may be undercutting the health benefits of wayfinding. The documentary is especially engaging in the way it makes a novel but essential case for 'active' travel - in this case travel that exercises the brain and develops the cognitive map...An entertaining and compelling collection of research and vignettes.' Andrew Mondschein, Assistant Professor, Urban and Environmental Planning, University of Virginia
'Where Am I is a fascinating look at how humans navigate unfamiliar places and form 'cognitive maps.' Because navigation and cognitive mapping are abilities that humans share with other species, the documentary draws on both human and non-human studies of spatial cognition...Interviews with biologists, psychologists, neuroscientists, and even a roboticist, along with engaging portrayals of the wide variety of ways of investigating spatial cognition, provide a valuable and entertaining overview of this emerging area of science.' Jack M Loomis, Professor Emeritus of Psychological and Brain Sciences, University of California-Santa Barbara
'Interesting and accessible...informative video, smoothly integrating cultural and neurological perspectives...Students, the general public, and anthropologists working on the biological basis of complex behavioral abilities should find it interesting and thought-provoking. Suitable for high school classes and college courses in cultural anthropology, cognitive anthropology, and anthropology of embodiment/spatialization, as well as for general audiences.' Jack David Eller, Anthropology Review Database
'A fascinating examination...An interesting study of how the brain is used for navigating, using both memory and imagination.' Clarence Murphy, East Stroudsburg University, Science Books and Films
'Highly Recommended...Provide[s] insights into the science associated with everyday activities of mental mapping and navigation...Where Am I is a good resource for students, researchers, hikers, orienteers, as well as those interested in navigation.' Thomas I. Nathaniel, University of South Carolina, Educational Media Reviews Online
'A fine introduction to understanding brain functions within distinctive environmental situations...intriguing and entertaining.' P. Hall, Video Librarian
'Where Am I? reveals what the latest scientific findings have to say about this intriguing topic...Is as fascinating as it is educational.' The Midwest Book Review
'Provides an engaging introduction to the subject.' Harold D. Shane, Library Journal
Citation
Main credits
Ridout, Sue (film producer)
Mohun, Bruce (film director)
Mohun, Bruce (screenwriter)
Suzuki, David T. (narrator)
Other credits
Editor, Chris Holmes; director of photography, John Collins; music composer, Daniel Séguin.
Distributor subjects
Animal Behavior/Communication; Anthropology; Biology; Environment; GIS; Geography; Health; Information Sciences; Life Science; Maps; Navigation; Neuroscience; Physiology; Psychology; Robotics; Science, Technology, Society; Spatial Cognition; Urban Studies; Urban and Regional PlanningKeywords
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Whether you’re an Inuit hunter,
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a forging insect,
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or someone out for a stroll, your brain is
performing one of its most fundamental services,
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it’s navigating. Some of us
do it better than others.
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Some people have this innate spatial sense
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that makes them good at navigation, good away
finding. Maybe they are building mental maps.
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Is it a mental representation of where
things are in space and knowledge about
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where things are with respect to one another.
Do men find their way better than women?
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A lot of the differences that would be
genetic between male and female psychology
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would relate to our hundreds of
thousands of years as hunter gatherers.
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Why are some of us good at finding
our way, while others are not?
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Mom, are you sure you can get us home?
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Where am I?
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Where do you want me to turn right?
Go right. I know, but where?
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Where do I turn right on?
Calgary’s Ann Dodd is lost again.
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I’m glad Dad taught me how to use a map.
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Yeah, have no faith in mom, huh? Well, I believe
in you. It’s just sometimes with directions,
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you’re not the best.
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I’ve always knowing when I’m not good but directions.
My automatic reaction to a map is panic.
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Especially, we’re driving in the car,
my husband hands me a map and says,
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\"Where do we go next?\" I get all anxious.
Many people struggle with directions.
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Ann’s problem is more acute than most.
She gets so be wildered, she can’t even
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find her own relatives across town. My youngest
sister, they were somewhere at Southwest, Calgary.
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I wouldn’t know how to get there, same thing with my brother’s
house. I don’t know how to get to my brother’s house.
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But about three years
ago, I heard on radio,
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there’s getting lost test, they were looking
for participants, I’ll be perfect participant.
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Neuroscientist Giuseppe laria
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has a theory why people like Ann Dodd, people
who appear to have perfectly normal brains
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have so much trouble navigating.
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These people are unable to form mental maps
of the environment and that’s the main reason
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why they get lost in very familiar surroundings. Your job is,
while we’re showing you these (inaudible), it starts to build
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the representation of that environment. Iaria
has found about one thousand people like Dodd.
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He’s coined a syndrome for them, Developmental
Topographical Disorientation or DTD.
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Iaria wonders whether there’s
a genetic cause to DTD,
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because Ann isn’t the
only one in her family
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who has trouble finding her way around. My
father has very poor sense of direction.
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Then, my youngest sister, we were living on 20th
Avenue and she wanted to get to 16th Avenue
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from my home. She end up coming back to the
house because she couldn’t find 16th Avenue.
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And I have another sister for the
longest time, she always thought,
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whichever direction you’re facing, you’re
going north. And so my husband said to her,
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so if you had to go south, you’d have to go
backwards. Ann comes from a very big family.
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In her family, they have been a
lot of people identified has,
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with challenge, in terms of orientation
skills. And so this for us
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was an amazing opportunity to look into the
genetics of this very complex condition.
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Iaria is trying to learn
what navigating tools,
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people like Ann are missing. Good
navigators use both memory and imagination,
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remembering where they
have been and imagining
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where they are going. But exactly
how that works in our brains
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is still a bit of a mystery.
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Insects are surprisingly good navigators,
despite having 8,000 times fewer neurons
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in their brains than we do.
So what’s their trick?
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Tom Collett of the University of Sussex in England
has devoted his entire career to ants and bees.
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Insects’ behaviour is probably more mechanistic.
So you can get more easily details of
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how they work, from insects
than you can from mammals.
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Collett records the comings and goings
of bumblebees at 500 frames a second.
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They are easier to study than most other kinds
of bees. Bumblebees are really nice because
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they, they come out with small nest hole and
B, they could come out fairly infrequently.
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So you got a chance of recording.
His outdoor laboratory
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is covered in a relic of the 70s,
shag carpet. It’s a regular surface,
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helps the bees depth perception when they
first exit from the hive, which in this case
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is a Plexiglas container under the table.
On their out barn trip,
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the bees memorize all their various
flight directions to create a route
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that will take them home again,
it’s called path integration.
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So what that means is, that integrate
all the little turns and zigzags
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and then they’ve got themselves a, back
to the point straight back to the home.
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In these experiments we take colonies
of bees and then we record their
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very first flight. It’s this inaugural
flight, Collette is most interested in.
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He discovered that during their
first foray out of the nest,
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bees create two dimensional images or
snapshots of important scenes like their nest
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or their food source. It’s a more
basic way of seeing than ours.
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If you train bees to a food sight
that’s marked by just a few landmarks,
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than what they primarily learn is the
appearance of that’s on the retina.
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So they are learning a two dimensional
view and then trying to match
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the view when they want to find the place
again. So what happens if Collett changes
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these landmarks around the nest hole?
The confused bees
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can’t find their home.
It’s awfully cruel of him.
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But by changing one feature at a time,
until the bees fail to find home,
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Collett has determined that bees layer images
from their eyes onto images in their memory,
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until they find a match. If they
can find a match, they are lost.
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They can’t imagine where their home is,
because they don’t have the brain power
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to create a mental map. In (inaudible) land routes,
but they probably don’t learn cognitive maps.
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Researchers speculate that a cognitive map
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is a kind of bird’s eye view of our
surroundings outside our own view point,
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a view that can be rotated in our mind.
There’s been 60 years of argument
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about whether mammals can form these maps.
One tool used to try
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to solve that dispute is this
tank called a Morris water maze.
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Rats are excellent but reluctant swimmers.
This one is dropped into a tank of murky water
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to search for a hidden island.
The rat gets visual clues
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from the geometric markers or landmarks
around the edges of the room.
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Uh… Success. Next time,
the rats put in the tank
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from a different position. It still able
to find the island, which suggests,
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it could be using a mental map.
But some tests
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in water mazes that were partly
obscured, suggest that rats don’t form
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a cognitive map. They seem to generate
a viewpoint specific snapshot,
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a bit like bees do. So these behavioral
water maze tests were inconclusive.
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Then, studies reveal the existence
of navigational neurons
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in rats brains.
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That evidence has helped McMaster University
neuroscientist draw some conclusions
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about the human brain, how memory
and imagination might combine
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to form a kind of map.
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What we’re going to do is measure your brain signals by, by recording
the electrical activity on the surface of your scalp with these….
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What is actually going on
inside our brains is probably
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more like a very piecemeal map. We have
cells in hippocampus that actually,
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have been recorded from in the human brain as well
as in the rodent brain, they’re called plate cells.
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And these plate cells will actually
fire when a person or animal
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is in a particular location. Those plate
cells are thought to be the building blocks
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for our ability to map the world. If one plate
cell is active in one corner of the box
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and another plate cell is active
in another corner and so on,
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then from a collection of plate cells, you can deduce
that the animal can represent the whole environment.
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The black line is the path that rat
has taken in a box. The red dots
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show how the firing of different kinds of
plate cells mapped the boxes dimensions.
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Is this a cognitive map at work?
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Sue Becker’s research now focuses on
learning which circuits in the human brains
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hippocampus are firing as we
remember where we’ve been
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and imagine where we’re going. When you lay down
memories, it’s not just for the purpose of reminiscing
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but you use your memory in
order to be able to imagine
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what’s going to happen next. There’s a lot of
evidence that you are using the same circuits,
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whether you’re remembering
or imagining future events.
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[sil.]
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Imagining a route on the snow
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and ice of Canada’s Arctic
requires more than just memory.
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It calls upon thousands of
years of navigational wisdom.
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The University of Calgary’s Giuseppe laria
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has come to the village of Igloolik
to learn about the traditional way
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finding methods of the Inuit. I
really want to know traditionally
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what has been the way to really make sense of
space, in a place where information is really,
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really minimal.
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[sil.]
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Hey. Hi, John. Hey. Giuseppe
Iaria, how are you?
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Iaria is heading out across the snow fields
beyond Igloolik with John Arnastiac(ph),
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who has been a hunter for 40 years.
Today, visibility is
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well over a mile. But with nothing to focus on
and with the sky, the same color as the snow,
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these are white out conditions.
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Arnastiac is guided by a faint pattern in the
snow, which holds in its shape a record of the
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two prevailing winds. The snow is always
formed from the wind. Here I’ll show you.
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See. If it was from the north… it would be…
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hard like this. Oh, it would be hard like
this. Yeah. Yes, because this is older.
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Its spring in the Arctic, so it’s
always light out, that means no stars
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by which to navigate, but
our Arnastiac is guided
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by the ripples of the snow. And when the
light is poor, he puts his foot out
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and feels the ripples as he drives.
When he is near the ocean,
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he can be guided by ocean currents.
And as far as 40 kilometers away,
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he can see its imprint, a dark band
across the horizon called water sky.
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[music]
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Another hunter approaches.
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Hittany Paniac(ph) is 20 years younger
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than our Arnastiac. He uses a GPS device
but he knows the winds just as well.
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Yeah, I know this, note this,
when I was scrolling up
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and north wind get back this a lot harder
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and from the south wind, it’s a lot softer.
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Like this part is powdery. Yeah. North wind
are really more packed than south wind.
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But it gives you a lot of information.
Yes. And they are always facing
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north and south directions
and it never faces…
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East or west? East or west.
Can I see your GPS?
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Oh, yes, I have a GPS here to show you.
And you always keep it with you?
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Yes, this is my best friend
when I go along the line.
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John, you don’t use the GPS.
For me it’s a waste of time.
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Because I know which direction
to go in a weather like this.
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I was a young lad when he was teenager
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and back then, they were
using more dog team instead
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of our skidoo. Oh, I see. And
dog team knows more about
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camp growing and… Yes. So the
dogs can actually take you back,
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they can sense it. They’ll go home.
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This is one of the last dog
teams left in Igloolik.
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More and more the Inuit are
depending on snowmobiles and GPS
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to get around. They run the risk of
losing their ancient wayfaring skills
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if technology takes over.
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Half a world away, there’s
another society of way fares
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who don’t need GPS. Oh, we’re going to go over (inaudible),
we’re gonna hug the river. London’s famous cabbies
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are among the world’s most studied navigators.
His evidence of that elusive cognitive map
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contained in their brains.
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Well, I’ve got my own GPS
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as well in my head. It’s called
the knowledge. Terry Foreman
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has been driving a tax cab for 20 years. He
studied three years to gain the knowledge.
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And the knowledge was, I suppose don’t
change the work. I called it blood,
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sweat and tears and it’s certainly everything. London
is one of the toughest cities in the world to navigate.
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To qualify as a cabbie,
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they have to be very, very
good at not getting lost.
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I mean, we have to learn six mile radius from the center
of London. And you think that’s gonna be, you know,
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impossible but it’s not. It’s…
it’s like a joint jigsaw puzzle,
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when you just put in a little bits at a time and, until
soon and later you put that final piece of jigsaw
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and then, and you know it. In 2001,
researchers at University College London
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discovered that the cab drivers had a
larger than normal posterior hippocampus.
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The part of the brain working
the hardest were navigating.
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But was it the confidant driving that
affected the size of the hippocampus
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or the searching for the best route?
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The team could pay taxi drivers and bus drivers and they both have to drive
through London, they both have to deal with customers, they are there all day
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watching the cars and the city fly by. Only
taxi drivers are taking novel routes each day.
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And so the team were able to show that the posterior
hippocampus is larger in, in London taxi drivers
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than London bus drivers. Spiers now wanted to
find out if people used the posterior hippocampus
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to picture the direct route to a
place where the actual street route
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they would have to take, the ability to
picture which direction something is in,
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without actually seeing it, is key
to the concept of a cognitive map.
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I think that’s the most important thing that knowledge
teaches you. It teaches you what direction to head-in
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to where you’re gonna go straight away. You know,
I’ll go ahead that way or I’ll go ahead that way.
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So Spiers launched a new study,
this time using pedestrians
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instead of cabbies. First subjects walked
around the complex streets of Soho
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until they knew them like their own backyard.
Then in a scanner, they were asked to think about
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direct routes versus street
routes, while watching video
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of a virtual walk through Soho. I found not what
I was expecting. What I found was the brain
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seems to flip between these two different possibilities.
When subjects thought about the direct route,
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they used the front or anterior
part of the hippocampus.
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When they thought about the street route,
they used the back or posterior part.
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So my guess now is that, perhaps the taxi drivers
are expanding that posterior hippocampus
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because they are happen to think about
the paths. All these studies confirm,
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cognitive maps mainly
reside in the hippocampus
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if they exist. There are some people
who think that there is no such thing
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that is basically a fiction. So Nora Newcombe’s
spatial intelligence team took advantage
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of a brand new Temple University campus to
determine whether or not cognitive maps exist.
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So I’m gonna have you put his blindfold on.
In the name of science,
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Canary Teet(ph) is temporarily
blinded, deafened, and immobilized
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to thoroughly disorient her in the
place she’s never been in anyway.
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One way of seeing if there’s a cognitive
map is to ask somebody to imagine
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they’re at a distinctive location
and then point to something else,
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and you can get from those points some idea of how
accurate they are in placing themselves in this space.
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On each of the routes you’re gonna
learn four buildings. So this is the
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first house on the first route you’re gonna learn.
It’s called Gibson House. Okay, Gibson House.
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Canary is shown around one area of the
campus. This is called the Green House.
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Okay. Blindfolded again,
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then toured around the
completely separate area.
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So this is called Dixon Hall. Okay.
The tricky part is being asked
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to point a building she was shown in the first area,
while she’s standing somewhere in the second area.
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It’s difficult because Canary has no
information about the relationship
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between the areas. I was trying to think about
where buildings that I learned in the second route
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were in relation to buildings that I learned in the
first route. There were… It was hard to figure out
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where they would be. Finally,
she’s taken on a connecting route
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between the two areas and asked again
to point to certain buildings.
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All the test subjects were now able to do this.
They could imagine the location of buildings
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even when they were out of sight. We found that
by the time people went on connecting routes
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between the two separated routes,
everyone was able to point from
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one building to another building. In other
words, they could build a mental map
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once they had enough information to
create it. I think we went that way.
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It’s your final answer? Yes. Okay. We
found that there is a cognitive map
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pretty much and that there is one for everyone.
Keep left. But having one and using it
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are two different things. At the
end of the road turn right.
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These days, it’s often simplistic
to just follow directions.
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Which navigation technique we preferred
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could have big implications for our mental health
according to McGill University’s Veronique Bohbot.
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The hippocampus is the area
of the brain that is affected
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with Alzheimer’s disease. So it’s an
area of the brain involved in memory,
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but specifically for events
that occur in one’s life.
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So that’s your, the slice of the hippocampus
I like you to take. It’s good to exercise
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your hippocampus to keep it
healthy, but GPS doesn’t do that,
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it triggers a similar and more
automatic navigational technique,
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Bohbot calls stimulus response. It develops a
different region of the brain, they call it nucleus.
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So stimulus response means that
we make a specific motor action
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when we’re faced with specific stimuli.
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So at the white building, turn right. And
then when you see the gas station, turn left.
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Bohbot has a slate of virtual
reality tools to find out
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whether people prefer to build a
cognitive map or use stimulus response.
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In this perfectly symmetrical room, Zahra
Shadari(ph) is the human equivalent
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of a rat in a water maze, but
this time, no one’s getting wet.
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The room has four separate images
projected on the walls, one is a barn,
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the other is at distant hills. Her
instructions are to roam around the room
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until she finds a spot where
the pull she’s carrying beeps.
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After learning the location of the beeping spot,
Zahra is sent him to search for it again.
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But the picture of the barn has been moved.
Using this room,
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Bohbot can judge whether a subject creates
a wide mental map using all the images
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or responds to the more
immediate stimulus, the barn.
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Another crucial tool in Bohbot’s
tool box is this virtual maze,
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eight pathways extend from a central hub.
There are virtual treasures
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to find at the end of each pathway. In
the background are various landscapes.
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Bohbot wants to find out
who’s finding the treasures
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by building a mental map linking the landscape to the
pathways and who’s finding them by keeping track
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of the immediate stimuli, the pass.
She knows that people
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who navigate using stimulus response will have a
smaller hippocampus. Why this is really important
00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:29.999
is because when there’s a loss in grey
matter in hippocampus, it’s been identified
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as a risk factor for numerous
neurological and psychiatric disorders.
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Bohbot study show that about half
of this favor building mental maps
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have favor stimulus response. The
best navigators can use both.
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GPS is a form of stimulus response.
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If we respond to the instructions of a
voice, we don’t need to build a mental map.
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In 200 meters turn left. Bohbot is
concerned that too much reliance on GPS
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will inhibit the healthy
growth of the hippocampus.
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What I recommend people to do is
to learn about their environment
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even if the GPS is on. Keep looking
outside, keep acquiring details,
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knowledge about the environment, so that you can
find your way back at all times without it.
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That seems to be what children do.
Bohbot was surprised
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to discover that children exercised
their hippocampus more than adults.
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Eighty five percent of 300 kids that
we tested, that were eight years old
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were using special strategies,
85%, this is a very large number,
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that suggests that we actually initially
start by using spatial strategies
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and we gradually shift over to using
more response strategies probably
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as the atomic ties more and
more tests in our daily lives.
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Drive 350 meters then turn left.
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Bohbot test differences between age groups
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and differences between cultures. She knew
that the Inuit were using GPS more and more,
00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:14.999
then she found out that her former
collaborator Giuseppe laria
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had gone north to talk with Inuit hunters.
So she made her way to Igloolik
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armed with her virtual maze test.
00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:29.999
She wants to find out to what extent
the hunters are building mental maps
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:34.999
rather than just responding to a GPS. We’re
stimulating our cardiac nucleus by response learning.
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There’s a cost meaning
that is gonna be a loss
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in utilization and perhaps in a long term
loss in gray matter of the hippocampus.
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[Bohbot is worried that reliance
among Intuit hunters on]GPS
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will lead to a greater chance of
early senility. John and Itany(ph)
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are worried, the next generation will lose
the knowledge of how to find their way.
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:04.999
Already there are many stories of young
people becoming lost because they can’t read
00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:09.999
winds and drifts.
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:14.999
Bohbot tested nine older hunters
including John and Itany
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and seven younger hunters. So you’re at the center
of a platform. You see this is the platform
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form which branch out pathways. I
just go straight. There’s GPS…
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While most of the older men built a
mental map when doing the maze test,
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only half of the younger men did.
The results of Bohbot’s small study
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seem to support her theory that the
technological nature of Western culture
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:44.999
is reducing the use of mental maps.
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:49.999
But perhaps the trickiest divide for
researchers to navigate is between the sexes.
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:54.999
Whenever you give a talk, somebody
in the audience often ask you,
00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.999
\"Did you compare the sexes and so on?\" And so you
almost have to deal with it even if you don’t want to.
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.999
It’s a loaded issue, but that didn’t
stop geographer Daniel Montello
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:09.999
from finding 79 men and women for a
study at the Santa Barbara campus.
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:14.999
First they learned a route on the campus.
Your task is trying to memorize
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:19.999
the landmarks I pointed at. They
were asked to place the landmarks
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:24.999
on their maps, then a geography quiz.
Which city is
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:29.999
closer to Albuquerque, Houston or Denver?
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:34.999
Denver. Here’s another. Which
city is closer to Winnipeg,
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:39.999
Calgary or Toronto? And there
is always entertaining
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:44.999
mental rotation test. This is a test
of your ability to look at a drawing
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:49.999
of a given object and find the same object
within a set of dissimilar objects.
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:54.999
Which of the three choices
on the right is the same
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:59.999
as the object on the left?
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:04.999
In the object memory test,
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:09.999
participants try to remember the
location of random object. What’s this?
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:14.999
And what did the test show? They
showed that men do outperform women
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:19.999
on tests especially that involve
learning environmental layouts
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:24.999
more so than learning pictures. Men
are usually significantly better
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:29.999
at indicating directions straight to locations
that are not directly along routes.
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:34.999
Women outperform men on the object memory test
and this is confirmed by tests from other labs.
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:39.999
Men do better on the object
rotation test and while both sexes
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.999
do equally well finding their way with a wealth
of landmarks, as the landmarks are removed,
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.999
men gradually outperform the women.
Many researchers including
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:54.999
women as well as men would agree
that men do tend to be better
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:59.999
at creating novel routes, then the question
becomes why? Is it nurture or nature
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:04.999
that mostly shapes our ability to find
our way. A lot of the differences
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:09.999
that would be genetic between male and
female psychology would relate to
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:14.999
our hundreds and thousands of years as hunter
gatherers, where it was almost always the case that
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:19.999
men did the hunting, they traveled around with other
men, they hid, they had to figure out locations
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:24.999
and follow dynamically moving prey and so
on and women were primarily gatherers,
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:29.999
they had to know the
locations of fruits and nuts
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:34.999
and things that were not changing around
but still they had a particular location.
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:39.999
And 10,000 years of civilization, so
the theory goes, hasn’t yet changed
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:44.999
our basic genetic make up. Men
are better at finding their way,
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:49.999
but women are more likely to find the car keys.
But maybe it’s partly our cultural roles
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:54.999
and fears that make men
better at way finding.
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:59.999
The fact that men traditionally do the driving,
I think, may be a big part of this story.
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:04.999
But there’s another part of the story also,
which is that the consequences of getting lost
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:09.999
are different for men and for women
and women are often actively afraid
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:14.999
to explore foreign cities for example, because
if they get lost in a bad neighborhood,
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.999
they, you know, fear being,
you know, robbed or raped,
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:24.999
more so than men. And I think that’s a
much neglected aspect of this story.
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:29.999
Or maybe it just comes down to our
interests, whether innate or learned.
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:34.999
It isn’t even so much what you can do,
it’s what you like doing. And if you like
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:39.999
traveling around in the environment, if you enjoy reading
maps then you’re gonna spend a lot more time doing it.
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:44.999
Ken Jennings doesn’t
just enjoy reading maps,
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:49.999
you could say, he’s obsessed with them.
If there is a map in the room, you know,
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:54.999
I can’t look anywhere else. But how good is
the winningest ever contestant on Jeopardy
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:59.999
had building one in his head?
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.999
Winning more than two million
dollars on a quiz show
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:09.999
requires a prodigious memory. Now Ken Jennings is
a writer and one of the things he’s written about
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.999
is people’s obsession with maps.
I remember being four years old
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.999
and just sit in the library paging through a Road Atlas
for fun, like it was a pleasure reading, you know,
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:24.999
like the way a more normal kid would, would read Hardy
Boys book and I want to get to the bottom of that.
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:29.999
I wanted to figure out what, what it was about me that made me such a
weird kid. Why was I sleeping with an atlas at the head of my bed,
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:34.999
instead of a teddy bear or a
security blanket? Veronique Bohbot
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:39.999
found out about Ken’s book and thought
maybe she could help answer his question.
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.999
Hi, I’m Dr. Veronique Bohbot. Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you. And answer a question of her own.
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:49.999
It would be interesting for us to investigate
what are the navigational strategies
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:54.999
that people like Ken Jennings who
have superior memory, what strategies
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:59.999
he would be using. So she and the lab
technician Meghan Polisca(ph) ran some tests.
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:04.999
So remember this is in Tibet speed.
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:09.999
I feel, you know, a little bit nervous because, you know, I’ve written
this book about, you know, \"My Deep Love For Maps and Geography\"
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:14.999
and, and now they’re gonna look at my results and tell me. No, I’m
sorry, you actually couldn’t find your way out of a paper bag.
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:19.999
Polisca(ph) uses a modified
version of the virtual maze test.
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:24.999
You were at the center of a platform
from which branch out several pathways.
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:29.999
There’s also a virtual town to learn.
There will be placing a virtual town
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.999
and you have to visit and identify the
different locations they make up this town.
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:39.999
After two hours of testing,
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:44.999
Bohbot delivers the verdict. You performed
really well. You did go in a direct path
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:49.999
most of the time, which is a sign of cognitive
mapping. People who can go in a direct path
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:54.999
to a new location have to have some kind of
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:59.999
internal sense of where things are
in order to derive this novel route.
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.999
And we have MRID that will suggest
that, in those situations
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:09.999
people use their hippocampus. So you see what’s going
on inside the brain when people take that test
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:14.999
and you can tell, you know, which
mental muscles they’re pulling? Yes.
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.999
That’s cool. I feel like a cognitive map must exist just
because I feel like that’s how I experience places.
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:24.999
You know, I feel like there is some world in my
head that’s, that I can rotate and zoom in on.
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:29.999
You know, it’s almost like I have some
mental version of, of Google Earth up here.
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:34.999
I know there’s a lot of controversy on
whether a dog can do that or a bumblebee.
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.999
Or an ant. With cameras and eavesdrops, the
University of Edinburgh’s Michael Mangan
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:44.999
is measuring the navigational tools of
one of the world’s greatest navigators,
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:49.999
Cataglyphis velox, the European desert ant.
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:54.999
But Mangan is first and
foremost not a biologist
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:59.999
but a roboticist. When I seen the story
of the desert ant, where she can
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:04.999
navigate in complex environments as we have
here, then I really inspired that something
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:09.999
with such a small brain, the size of a
pinhead, and with low resolution eyes
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.999
can actually get herself home there. So if he can
understand how she’s doing that, then maybe I can apply it
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.999
in robotic systems. If robots ever take
up much of civilizations workload,
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.999
they will need to navigate on their own
and the simpler the system, the better.
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.999
What we’re looking for is to fain
the minimum solution that allows
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.999
navigation to happen. Mangan
is searching for clues
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:39.999
to ant way finding, a few miles outside
Seville, Spain. So the ants here
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.999
and classically move in environments
that of larges tusks or bushes of grass
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.999
and this gives them a little maze which they must
move. It’s like this, winding streets of Seville.
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One place will look the same as the place I was
five minutes ago. You imagine leaving your hotel
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and you look down one side of the street
and you say, I’m not sure, really vibe.
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Most of that scallion looks most familiar, so
I’ll follow it for a while. And I will say, okay,
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now I remember the lovely platha with a Tapas
bar. So now I remember I went that way
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and you start linking these together into routes. That’s
one suggestion as how the ants are navigating as well.
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In the eavesdrops experiment, Mangan
is purposely trying to confuse
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the ant sense of distance. So we’re
interested in seeing whether the ants
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are also taking into account while
they are certain and uncertain about
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in their calculations. First,
the ant leaves the rest
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and eventually finds a cookie tree. Then,
Mangan carries at halfway back home
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and puts it in what he calls his assault
course. We forced them to take lots of tons
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and wiggled our paths when they are going home. Then maybe, with
this assault course they would say, okay, I think I traveled
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this half distance, but I’m not so sure. Mangum
wants to know whether the next time out,
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the ant searches based on its
memory of the outward journey
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on the straight eavesdrop or its
memory of the shorter homeward journey
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in the assault course or maybe
an averaging of the two.
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Or maybe the animals have a completely different strategy. And if
that’s true, then I’d really like to know what they are doing as well,
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because they navigate in this environment,
no problem. So ant seem to have us
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at an advantage, because in our
cities we can easily get lost.
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Urban Design and way finding
are Colin Ellard’s passions.
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He began his career studying animals
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like ants and bees.
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I spent many years trying to understand how animals dealt
with problems of space. And I thought, Chief, that,
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there was an animal that, that built really interesting spaces
that might relate to how their minds were put together.
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And it took me an embarrassingly long time
to realize that those animals were us.
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Ellard has a virtual reality town
in which he can manipulate features
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to make way finding easier or harder.
What I want you to do is imagine
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that you’re visiting a city that’s laid out, it’s like any
other city you’ve been to. In this task I want you to find
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.999
an identical statue to that one somewhere
inside the city around you. Oh.
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One of the things that we manipulate in the experiment
is, what you could think of as the grammar of space.
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In this town’s grammar, Ellard
is purposely left out landmarks,
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that’s kind of like leaving out the nouns.
Where am I?
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Ellard wants to see how the lack of landmarks
affects how Christine searches for the statue.
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First, she tracks around the town’s
wall, then plunges into the center
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and finds the statue. Hey.
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Here we go. Great. So how was it? I was
looking all the time for other landmarks
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to help guide me back out again, but everything
was just the same, just the same window and that,
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so that was frustrating. Going into a
landscape that is really devoid of landmarks
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can be a bit discomforting and it can take people
some time to, to figure out what else they can use
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to find their way. Ellard
has a real world test
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that measures people’s emotions as they walk
the streets of the city and how that affects
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.999
their way finding. Christine and John get
palm monitors to measure their stress level
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:24.999
as they wander around kitchen or Ontario.
Meanwhile, they have to play
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:29.999
an annoying little game intended to distract them.
We’re going to see a rolling display of digits.
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.999
Every time you see a digit appear, I
want you to press the scroll button.
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But if you see the number three, I want you to not press
the scroll button. All right, let’s go for a walk.
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Great. Often we get lost simply
because we’re not paying attention
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to where we’re going, we’re day dreaming.
Unlike any other animal,
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:54.999
we have this ability to move effortlessly through
time and space mentally. So we can imagine ourselves
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being somewhere other than where we are
right now. The downside of that is that,
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it increases the likelihood that will become
lost. So we’re gonna walk into this building
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and then out the back doors. Oh, oh.
But Ellard gets lost.
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.999
This seems to be a long way
up, maybe it was down.
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It is the way out.
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:24.999
There we go. I would put my way
finding skills as below average,
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:29.999
but a lot better than they were
before I began to get into
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.999
the business of studying way finding. Then,
Ellard, let’s John and Christine lead.
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:39.999
He asks them to make note of what attracts
them to their route. How does the definition
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:44.999
of the street influence how people feel,
where they look, and what they do.
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:49.999
Why here? Well, it’s
sheltered, I like the people,
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:54.999
and lots of greenery too. The streets
cape that captures our interest,
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:59.999
puts us in the here and now. We
pay attention to where we are
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and where we’re going. That’s entirely the reason I
went over here. I wanted to see whether this spun.
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:09.999
And now, is their cognitive map working? Now could you
both close your eyes? Now point to the clock tower.
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.999
Pretty good. Good navigators figure out
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.999
the strategy that’s going to work best. They have a good
sense for what’s going to work in some particular context.
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:24.999
But some things will always be a challenge.
Where’s the car?
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:29.999
[sil.]
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Exploring the mysteries of navigational
disorientation has led Giuseppe laria
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to design a training course to overcome it.
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:44.999
Okay, Ann, so this is the belt I mentioned to
you about. One of the tools he has hopes for,
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:49.999
is this magnetic belt. You will hear them vibration,
they’re very reliable source of information.
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:54.999
They always tell you where north is.
Okay. And, you know,
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:59.999
that means nothing to me… Yeah. Yeah. Iaria is
hoping compass directions will someday mean
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something to Ann. We’ll
do a lot of tests today.
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Some of these are really simple
for you or others okay, some,
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:14.999
there’s very challenging, very difficult, huh? We’ll
start off with the heading our intuition task.
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:19.999
So in this task… We ask
people to do a comprehensive
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:24.999
battery of training on
attention, perception.
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.999
Mental imagery is a very, very critical one,
mental rotation, working memory and so on.
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.999
Ann worries that her kids
might inherit her problem.
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:39.999
Of course, my children are my
greatest motivation. If they show
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:44.999
some DTD characteristics, I
wanted to be able to prevent them
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.999
from having all the inhibitions
or, you know, being incapacitated
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:54.999
the way that I have been. Iaria
is trying out a new test
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:59.999
on Ann’s daughters. Okay, Emily, let’s give Riley a
chance to try the control us and go through the rooms.
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:04.999
So I seem to have gone through
all of the rooms so far,
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:09.999
I’m now in the hallway. Not the butterfly
room. Except for the butterfly room.
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.999
The main purpose of the video game is
really trying to identify children
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:19.999
who may actually be potential DTDs.
Meanwhile, on her favorite walking paths,
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:24.999
Ann may have taken care of some
of her navigational struggles
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:29.999
on her own. She’s learned how
to remember where she is
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.999
by imagining she’s flying
over the world around her.
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:39.999
Last spring was probably the first time I
actually felt like a sense of direction up there.
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:44.999
It would be like, I was flying or
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:49.999
on my stomach and then seeing the mountains
west, then that I’ve been having orientation
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:54.999
and that was north and that was east and
that was south. For me it was just…
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:59.999
I guess, like just feeling
thrilled that I actually felt
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:04.999
some sort of sense of direction.
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:09.999
Ann is learning how to find her way,
but some people like getting lost.
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:14.999
I actually love the sensation of
becoming lost. I get lost on purpose.
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.999
When you lose that kind of comfortable feeling of,
of knowing your place, that everything kind of pops
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:24.999
and you experience the here and
now much more immediately.
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:29.999
And I just like not knowing where I’m going. It’s so free. You
know, it reminds me why I should turn off the GPS sometimes,
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.999
you know. Let’s see what’s over this rise,
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:39.999
you know. I almost think we should have like one day a
week where, you know, it’s like turn off your GPS day,
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.999
you know, maybe, maybe every Sunday in, in memory of the good old Sunday
drives, you know, of yesteryear. On Sunday everybody turns off their GPS.
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.999
Getting lost, if you
really want to enjoy it,
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.999
is not to be confined to space and time.
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:59.999
So if I define getting lost this way, well,
it can be a very pleasant experience.
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Eventually someone will find you.
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[music]
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[sil.]