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Religion is in the teachers -

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- who interpret the Bible
or the Buddhist texts.

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Not in the Bible
or the Buddhist texts themselves.

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But the persons who interpret
make the biggest difference.

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Good morning.
The bells are tolling. It's 8 o'clock.

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Good to see you on time.
Are more coming?

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- There's one who's ill.
- Okay.

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Welcome. Are you ready
for what's going to happen?

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- Do you have any idea what'll happen?
- No.

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I thought so. Have you heard rumors
about what goes on in the church?

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- Read books...
- No, you won't be reading books.

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Strangely enough,
you're going to sleep.

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What?

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No, you are not going to sleep.
But you're going to...

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You're going to learn to relax.
And you'll learn to be in a church.

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You're going to lie on a church bench.

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And I'll play some music for you.

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It's quite demanding,
you'll find out.

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It sounds easy, but it isn't.
But I do think you'll be good at it.

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If you fall asleep, it's a good sign.
It would give you top grades -

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- if you can fall asleep.
It's a sign that you can relax.

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If you're constantly checking in on
everyone else, you won't fall asleep.

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And why should you fall asleep?

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It's because I want to teach you
to listen to yourself and be yourself.

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If you can't be yourself,
or don't know what you want -

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- it's difficult
to be there for others.

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So answer questions honestly. You can
say, "I don't feel like answering."

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I ask about very strange things.
But you can't lie.

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So if I ask, why the confirmation,
"Is it for the money?"

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And it is for the money, you say yes.

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You won't get a bad grade.
You won't get grades here.

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I won't think badly about you
whatever you tell me, actually.

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But it would be a pity, since
we'll be meeting for eight months -

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- if we didn't get to know each other.
So say what you feel.

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That's what you should do.

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Why do you want a confirmation, Louise?

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I want to be confirmed -

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- because I partly believe in God.

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And yet I don't quite believe.
It's both yes and no.

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And then... because of the party
and the dress...

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- I thought so.
- Yes.

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Why do you want to be confirmed?

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I believe there's more
between heaven and earth.

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And I believe it's God...

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Like that.

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But I'm not like totally a believer
and things like that.

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- Yes.
- Okay.

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I was 14 when I began seeing things -

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- that I thought were spirits or ghosts.

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When I was 14-15 years old,
I thought -

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- that I would join the Japanese army
to protect Japan.

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My interest in natural sciences
and space developed -

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- when I was four or five years old -

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- when the American spacecraft, Apollo,
landed on the moon... Armstrong.

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I have to get you used to...
You have to get accustomed -

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- to be in the church, so you
understand that this is your church.

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It's not my church.

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You don't have to be a believer to be in
this church. It's your church.

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I'll now read the text...
I don't know if you know it -

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- but it's very well-known
and easy to understand.

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The First Letter to the Corinthians,
chapter 13. It deals with love.

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"If I speak with the tongues of men
and of angels, but do not have love -

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- I am a noisy gong
or a clanging cymbal.

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If I have prophetic powers, and
know all mysteries and all knowledge -

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- and if I have all faith,
so as to remove mountains -

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- but do not have love,
I am nothing.

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Love is patient and kind,
love is kind and is not jealous -

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- does not brag and is not arrogant.

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It does not rejoice at wrongdoing,
but rejoices with the truth.

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It bears all, believes all,
hopes all, endures all.

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Love never ends.

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Now faith, hope, love
abide, these three -

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- but greatest of these is love."

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Usually we would discuss what is meant
by this. We won't do that today.

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Today you'll find a bench.

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This is the process. I'll teach you not
to lift your head above...

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I'll not watch you,
but if your head rises above this -

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- you've got a long way home.

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You simply have to give up thinking
about what the others are doing.

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Though I haven't seen you for long

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I think of you sometimes

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There was something that stayed with me

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Something never went away

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Damn, damn, damn

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it should have been you

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Damn, damn, damn

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it should have been you.

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You can wake up.

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Anybody got a stiff neck?

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When I was 14, I thought I'd gone crazy.

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When I slept at night,
I became stiff with fear.

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I don't know
if there were spirits or ghosts -

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- but I saw things -

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- that seemed like hallucination.

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After that time, I started worrying
if perhaps I'd gone crazy -

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- and I became quite neurotic.

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Also about what happens when people die.
What might have happened to my father?

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What is death?
Why do we live, when we have to die?

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Such things bogged me down.

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Coming here, reminds me -

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- of precisely 20 years ago.

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20 years ago,
I lived right next to this park.

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I saw it every day.

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And exactly at that time the first trial
against Asahara took place.

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That trial got a lot of attention
all over Japan.

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I myself wasn't directly involved -

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- but while they carried out
these attacks, I backed them up.

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So indirectly, I supported them
in many ways.

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Concretely, I worked with Aum
writing books at that time -

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- and writing publications.

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Of course, I didn't write books
urging people to attack -

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- but I did write a lot
about Asahara being our savior -

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- or that Judgment Day would come -

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- and that the only thing
that could save us was Aum.

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Many followers read the books
where I'd written about these things.

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And if these followers
carried out attacks, you'd have to say -

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- that I actively supported them.

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That way I feel
I'm partly to blame for it.

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I was a last-year student
at the graduate school -

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- of the university in Tokyo -

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- learning artificial intelligence -

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- in the scientific department
of the university.

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But I myself did not feel something...

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... really meaningful -

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- in the field of engineering
or science.

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I did not like to make it
my lifetime profession.

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I decided to become a monk
of the religious organization -

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- Asahara had just established.

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I might be able to say, I'm a kind
of founding member of Aum Shinrikyo.

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It's useless to regret -

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- because you can't live in the past.

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But since it is a very grave,
big mistake -

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- I would like to make
some meaning out of it.

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In Japan we have a saying:
"Failure is the source of success."

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People make something good
out of mistakes -

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- out of bad deeds in the past.

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Put the phones away.

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- How are you?
- Good.

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Love? Still okay?
That's good.

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This will sound sad, but we're going
to talk about death today.

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I know it's as sad as it can be.
We actually do that every time.

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Before the end of the class you have
to write down your thoughts about death.

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And if you never before thought
about what death is -

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- then today is the day to do it.

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We'll hear some music in the church.

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I don't think you know him.

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- His name is Søren Huss.
- I know him.

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He was in the band, Saybia -

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- and went on tour
with them in Amsterdam -

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- and while on stage he gets
a call to hurry back to Copenhagen.

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His wife and little daughter
were run over in Valby.

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The wife died right away.

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The little girl was hospitalized
for a very long time.

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Then he wrote some songs.

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The last song he could cope with -

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- because he found out
the daughter would survive...

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Then he could cope
with writing a song to his wife.

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It's called 'Thanks for the Dance'.

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"In the beginning was the Word -

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- and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.

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The same was in the beginning
with God.

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All things were made by him, and without
him was not anything made that was made.

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In him was life.
And the life was the light of men.

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And the light shineth in darkness,
and the darkness comprehended it not."

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Darkness is evil, right?

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In a moment, before you find a bench...
The lyrics are in Danish.

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Søren Huss sings in Danish.
It's called 'Thanks for the Dance'.

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He's singing, "Thank you for the dance
we had. It was a lovely dance."

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And at the end he sings...
It's as if the song is almost finished -

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- then he sings: "Thank you for
the dance." And then at the very end:

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"There's a place where we dance."

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That's why I brought this song today.
"There's a place where we dance."

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Opening up and letting in

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The glow from your cheerful mind

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Stoic calm eyes look

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into the darkness of gloom

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Back in your arms

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by the door with my name

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mind in mind looking up

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seeing past the radiance

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Whispering, "Thank you for the dance."

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There's a place where we dance

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There's a place where we dance.

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We'll talk about death.
We always do that.

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- What a drag.
- Before you write...

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Have you ever thought
that you will die.

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The last thing I heard was
that you die a little every day.

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A Danish philosopher called Løgstrup
said, "Life is just deferred death."

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That means we're just approaching
the real thing.

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We're just on the way towards it.

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Actually, I don't fear death.

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I think a lot about it,
but my children don't have to.

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My gloomy worldview
I don't have to pass on to my children.

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But isn't it strange: If I haven't had
a funeral for a whole week, I miss it.

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- What?
- I miss a funeral.

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- No.
- Yes.

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I miss that life is taken so seriously
that people get sad when it ends.

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I feel that life will rush back,
when I see death.

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I have to grab onto what I have.

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There's only one alternative:
Either you live or you die.

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The exercise is:
When I think about death I think...

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God.

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Light.

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Coffin.

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Church.

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Cross.

00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:03.160
I'll also die.

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When I think about death
I think about what happens to your soul.

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I mean where we end up.
Not the body, the soul.

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Grief.

00:22:26.280 --> 00:22:27.840
Loss.

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Sleep.

00:22:36.320 --> 00:22:38.720
When I think about death,
I think about -

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- evil, darkness, cold, discomfort.

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I think about all that I want in life -

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- but am afraid that I won't accomplish.

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I think about when my parents are dead.
What will I do without my parents?

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Will I still have somebody to talk to,
or will I be all alone?

00:24:29.760 --> 00:24:36.200
There's something beautiful about what
should become something but doesn't.

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If you grab the chance and say it,
it can be become really good -

00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:45.360
- but you may also lose
what you felt.

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And therefore Michael Møller's song
was a song for you.

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It was the last song. I don't know
if he sang it all the time -

00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:58.600
- but you will be loved again.
That's what he sang.

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Take the chance with love. Sometimes
it breaks, but we will be loved again.

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I've met with very many people
who lost the one they loved the most.

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Someone who's lost his wife.
Died of cancer, 28 years old.

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He'll never get over it.

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Then I meet them four years later,
and they love again.

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It doesn't directly have
to do with God -

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- but it has to do with the fact that
deep down we really want to love again.

00:25:32.040 --> 00:25:35.840
Otherwise we would have taken
our own lives.

00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:37.920
What is faith in God?

00:25:38.040 --> 00:25:42.080
Perhaps believing that more
love is on the way.

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Or that life is worth living, even
though I just lost the love of my life.

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That may be God.

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I'm going to teach you that God may
be a concept that's placed very high.

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But it has to do with who you are.
So you have to find out who you are.

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It's appropriate to read Søren
Kierkegaard's "The Concept of Anxiety".

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It deals with
what we'll be talking about.

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If you don't understand a thing,
that's great. Again...

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If I read it ten times, and you don't
understand it, it's also okay.

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"Anxiety may be compared with dizziness.

00:26:38.120 --> 00:26:43.440
He whose eye happens to look down
into the yawning abyss becomes dizzy.

00:26:43.560 --> 00:26:46.000
But what is the reason for this?

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It is just as much in his own eye
as in the abyss -

00:26:49.080 --> 00:26:54.280
- for suppose he had not looked down.
So anxiety is the dizziness of freedom -

00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.200
- which emerges when the spirit wants
to posit the synthesis -

00:26:57.320 --> 00:26:59.760
- and freedom looks down
into its own possibility -

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- laying hold of finiteness
to support itself.

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Freedom succumbs to dizziness.

00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:09.760
Further than this,
psychology cannot and will not go.

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In that very moment
everything is changed -

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- and freedom, when it again rises,
sees that it is guilty.

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Between these two moments
lies the leap..."

00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:25.160
We'll talk about it in a moment.

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The text I just read was Kierkegaard's
understanding of -

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- what happens when you reach your age.

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You'll be walking, and suddenly you see
there's a long way down.

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There are two options.
Either you go back or you jump in.

00:28:38.840 --> 00:28:42.240
You fall. But because you fall,
you can get up again.

00:28:42.360 --> 00:28:45.600
If you don't fall, you can't get up.

00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.280
There's nothing wrong in falling.

00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.720
It's a good thing.
The worst is to walk straight ahead -

00:28:51.840 --> 00:28:54.920
- without seeing the low and the high.

00:28:55.040 --> 00:28:58.000
When something happens in your life...

00:28:58.120 --> 00:29:03.920
... Jasmin may stand here with a feeling
she can't share with the rest of you.

00:29:04.040 --> 00:29:06.760
She shouldn't hurry back.

00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.880
Something did happen,
and she shouldn't just hurry back -

00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:13.640
- because she'll forget
the feeling she had.

00:29:13.760 --> 00:29:16.520
She'll just return to some phase.

00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:19.240
She needs to get out here.

00:29:19.360 --> 00:29:23.000
And so should the rest of you.

00:29:23.120 --> 00:29:25.520
If we focus on what others think -

00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:28.920
- we'll get stuck here, and
Jasmin will never know who she is.

00:29:29.040 --> 00:29:33.680
She'll be what she feels she ought to be
in the view of others.

00:29:33.800 --> 00:29:37.160
That's why a class in a school
sometimes can be terrible.

00:29:37.280 --> 00:29:42.800
There's a boy in another class
who has a very aggressive attitude -

00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:48.440
- yet when you talk with him outside
he's such a nice kid.

00:29:48.560 --> 00:29:50.680
Very thoughtful.

00:29:50.800 --> 00:29:54.240
And he told me that he doesn't feel
that he can be nice in school.

00:29:54.360 --> 00:29:56.400
He feels he needs to be tough.

00:29:56.520 --> 00:29:58.880
He puts on armor when he goes to school.

00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.800
Symbolically,
he puts on a special jacket.

00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:05.560
In the beginning he takes it off.
Now he can't take it off at all.

00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:07.920
The more armor you put on -

00:30:08.040 --> 00:30:13.400
- the more difficult it is to find out
what's underneath the armor.

00:30:13.520 --> 00:30:17.480
Someone puts on that armor.
There's a body underneath.

00:30:17.600 --> 00:30:22.480
Sometimes, it's really difficult
to get in here.

00:30:22.600 --> 00:30:26.880
No way will love ever get to the cross
through four layers of armor.

00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.600
No love will get through.
It's stopped every time.

00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.560
And no love gets out.

00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:38.400
Your task in life is to break free
from this group.

00:30:38.520 --> 00:30:43.120
You have to move out of the group
in order to come back as yourselves.

00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:47.480
But it's a good thing to be aware of
what you don't like about yourself.

00:30:47.600 --> 00:30:50.080
Because that's also you.

00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:55.360
You should show yourself,
precisely as you are, all the way.

00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:57.800
The exercise is:
tell me who you are.

00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:01.920
Jasmin, you look lost.
Did you give up before you got started?

00:31:02.040 --> 00:31:04.080
- Yes.
- You don't understand it?

00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:09.360
- Not really.
- Okay. Jasmin is... Try!

00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:15.040
It's a tough task. And it's a task that
keeps changing, because you change.

00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.560
What you write today
may be different tomorrow.

00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:23.360
My father left me with my mother.

00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:28.160
I didn't see him for many years -

00:31:28.280 --> 00:31:33.600
- since I became a monk with Aum.

00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.640
Probably I did not see him
for about 30 years -

00:31:37.760 --> 00:31:40.880
- even up to now.

00:31:42.040 --> 00:31:46.480
It was while I was
at the school of graduate students -

00:31:46.600 --> 00:31:50.080
- that I met him the last time.

00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.400
I'm sensitive
but find it hard to show it.

00:31:56.520 --> 00:32:00.760
I find it hard to talk with others
about what I feel.

00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:05.560
I'm very stubborn.
I'm afraid of making mistakes.

00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.280
I'm afraid of being left out.

00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:12.400
I'm afraid people won't like me
for what I am.

00:32:14.840 --> 00:32:16.800
I love to use my brain.

00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:22.200
It's the only thing that can't
be compared to that of the others.

00:32:22.320 --> 00:32:27.480
No one else has my thoughts.
They're mine.

00:32:30.120 --> 00:32:33.760
I feel best when I'm always with others.

00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:37.080
I don't like the idea
of my friends having fun -

00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.600
- while I'm just sitting at home.

00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:48.120
My self-esteem is a little low.

00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:53.600
I'm not good at writing good things
about myself.

00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:03.360
I love to read and draw manga.
That's the only time when I'm myself.

00:33:16.520 --> 00:33:19.760
I'm a girl who finds it difficult
to describe myself -

00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:23.160
- because I don't know who I am.

00:33:26.320 --> 00:33:31.360
When I joined Aum,
I got a new identity.

00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:34.760
But when I think about it now -

00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:40.200
- it was a delusion.
Something temporary.

00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:44.920
I had no identity before I joined -

00:33:45.040 --> 00:33:50.680
- so where there wasn't anything
that Aum could use -

00:33:50.800 --> 00:33:54.240
- I got this delusion -

00:33:54.360 --> 00:33:59.000
- this temporary, imagined identity.

00:33:59.120 --> 00:34:03.920
Now my conviction is
that identity comes from yourself.

00:34:04.040 --> 00:34:09.120
In Japan there's a saying,
"to search for oneself".

00:34:09.240 --> 00:34:14.360
It's before you become an adult,
at university -

00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:19.720
- that you talk about going
on a journey to find yourself.

00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:24.000
And precisely during that period,
I joined Aum.

00:34:24.120 --> 00:34:28.120
If you ask why,
we were all searching for ourselves -

00:34:28.240 --> 00:34:33.280
- because we didn't know
our own identity.

00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:37.840
And there were no grownups
who told us -

00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:43.640
- that it's something
you have to look for and find yourself.

00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:51.480
That some people say that you should
plunge yourself into life -

00:34:51.600 --> 00:34:55.640
- even though you might fail...
I think that's wonderful.

00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.840
In Japan it's quite the opposite.
Here you're not allowed to fail.

00:34:59.960 --> 00:35:04.480
The prevailing attitude is
that if you make a mistake, its over.

00:35:04.600 --> 00:35:08.480
That's why so many commit suicide.

00:35:11.040 --> 00:35:15.640
There wasn't really anybody seriously
studying Buddhism at university.

00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.160
That's why I ended up with Aum.

00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:26.520
In the end I didn't go to university
but spent all my time with Aum.

00:35:26.640 --> 00:35:30.080
My father found out.

00:35:30.200 --> 00:35:37.560
My father sent my little sister
from Osaka by taxi to get me -

00:35:37.680 --> 00:35:41.040
- so that I would get home immediately.

00:35:41.160 --> 00:35:45.440
So in the middle of the night,
I took a taxi with my little sister -

00:35:45.560 --> 00:35:52.040
- from Kyoto, where I lived,
to our childhood home in Osaka.

00:35:52.160 --> 00:35:58.560
And when we came to the entrance
of our childhood home -

00:35:58.680 --> 00:36:03.080
- my father was standing like this
waiting for me.

00:36:03.200 --> 00:36:05.840
He attacked me quite violently.

00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:09.600
"If you give up Aum, you may enter -

00:36:09.720 --> 00:36:12.960
- but if not, you can go back now!"

00:36:13.080 --> 00:36:16.280
Like that...
"Don't come back!"

00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.160
And so, I was still young -

00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:25.960
- and I said, if this was the way
it had to be, I wouldn't come back.

00:36:26.080 --> 00:36:32.400
When I was about to leave, I actually
thought my father would hit me -

00:36:32.520 --> 00:36:36.240
- but my mother and sister
held on to him and said:

00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:40.760
"Please stop!"

00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.680
And then he stopped.

00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.320
But I thought
if they wouldn't listen to me at all -

00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:50.160
- could I even be there?

00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:54.080
So I went out to the taxi
that we'd asked to wait -

00:36:54.200 --> 00:36:57.160
- to go back to Kyoto.

00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.840
As I did so, my mother
came running after me.

00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.880
She ran after the taxi and put
some money through the taxi window.

00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:10.880
Money for transport and food, perhaps.

00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:18.160
After that I didn't contact them
for 20 years.

00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:43.320
Last time we did this exercise,
I don't know if you remember...

00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:49.480
"Who am I?"
I read them, and we'll talk about them.

00:37:49.600 --> 00:37:52.520
I'd say it was...

00:37:52.640 --> 00:37:55.640
- Arne the clown...
- That's me.

00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:57.880
They were really good.

00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.240
Sometimes when I'm sitting on this table
looking down I think -

00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:06.640
- there's got to be something good
in there. It's not always clear.

00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:10.160
Suddenly you get such an exercise,
and all the good in you appears.

00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:15.000
Most of them were very well written.
Really good.

00:38:15.120 --> 00:38:21.080
I've found the best text in the Bible
regarding the question: Who am I?

00:38:21.200 --> 00:38:26.120
I want you to hear the best answer ever
given by one who explained who he was.

00:38:26.240 --> 00:38:31.040
Then Moses said to God: "If I come to
the people of Israel and say to them -

00:38:31.160 --> 00:38:34.960
- that the God of their fathers
has sent me to them, and they ask me -

00:38:35.080 --> 00:38:39.040
- what his name is,
what shall I say to them?

00:38:39.160 --> 00:38:45.040
God answers Moses:
You should answer, "I am who I am."

00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:41.480
When you've written who you are -

00:39:41.600 --> 00:39:47.600
- many of them show that you consider
how others look upon you.

00:39:47.720 --> 00:39:51.400
If someone is always seen
as a happy person -

00:39:51.520 --> 00:39:56.520
- is it because I want to be happy
or because I am happy?

00:39:56.640 --> 00:40:01.080
Someone from another class said,
not to manipulate yourself -

00:40:01.200 --> 00:40:05.600
- but still create yourself
the way you want to be.

00:40:05.720 --> 00:40:10.720
What makes you want to do things
in life, to set goals -

00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:14.720
- may sometimes destroy you.

00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:17.080
You will experience...

00:40:17.200 --> 00:40:21.360
... at some time the pressure will rise,
and your parents will ask you -

00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:24.280
- what do you want to do now?

00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:26.760
And you will ask each other.

00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:30.880
Remember to bring yourself along,
and don't jump on the wagon -

00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.640
- that you have to do
all kinds of things.

00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:36.560
You just have to be who you are.

00:40:36.680 --> 00:40:40.200
God answered: "I am who I am."
Great answer, right?

00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:44.440
You don't have to be anything
other than who your already are.

00:40:44.560 --> 00:40:48.240
And I want to tell you now
before your confirmation -

00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:52.160
- without being too solemn:
God loves you precisely the way you are.

00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:56.680
When I read Osamu Dazai's
'No Longer Human' -

00:40:56.800 --> 00:41:02.560
I thought, "Oh, here's a person
who is just as strange as me.

00:41:02.680 --> 00:41:06.920
I'm not the only one
who feels strange in the head.

00:41:07.040 --> 00:41:11.560
Others feel the same way."

00:41:11.680 --> 00:41:16.040
That was a fantastic help for me.

00:41:16.160 --> 00:41:19.600
At the time, I saw Osamu Dazai
as a friend.

00:41:19.720 --> 00:41:22.240
And it was a great relief for me.

00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:26.200
At the time I was preoccupied with
the thought of committing suicide -

00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:29.280
- but then I heard a voice...

00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:33.320
I don't know if it came from my heart
or where it came from -

00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:36.680
- but it said: "You must not die.

00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:40.080
As you are born, it means -

00:41:40.200 --> 00:41:45.360
- that there's something
you have to do for other people."

00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:50.320
I don't know if you've reached that
question yet, but it surely will come...

00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:56.440
The intense feeling of whether you're
entitled to live and why you live.

00:41:56.560 --> 00:41:59.320
Why am I here?
What is my contribution?

00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.880
That's what we'll talk about today.

00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:07.440
"Beloved, let us love one another,
for love is from God -

00:42:07.560 --> 00:42:11.120
- and whoever loves has been born
of God and knows God.

00:42:11.240 --> 00:42:15.960
Anyone who does not love
does not know God, because God is love.

00:42:16.080 --> 00:42:18.920
In this the love of God was made
manifest among us -

00:42:19.040 --> 00:42:21.600
- that God sent his only Son
into the world.

00:42:21.720 --> 00:42:27.680
In this is love, not that we have loved
God but that he loved us.

00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:33.240
Beloved, if God so loved us,
we also ought to love one another.

00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:38.200
God is love, and whoever
abides in love abides in God -

00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:40.720
- and God abides in him."

00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:43.040
Amen.

00:42:43.160 --> 00:42:45.480
Did I read that to you before?

00:42:45.600 --> 00:42:48.120
I thought I'd save it
for the right moment.

00:42:48.240 --> 00:42:51.520
- What is this?
- It's a song you will hear.

00:42:51.640 --> 00:42:55.440
The text I just read from the Bible
perhaps lies under this text.

00:42:55.560 --> 00:42:59.680
It's there somewhere. At least
in the understanding of what God is.

00:44:37.200 --> 00:44:41.640
I always thought that
if you got the gist of a good song -

00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:44.240
- then I've given you a lot.

00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:49.560
And I want you to understand
that you are God's children.

00:44:50.680 --> 00:44:54.440
Also your mom and dad's children,
but God's children.

00:44:54.560 --> 00:44:57.800
I'm sure that
at some time in your life -

00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:03.520
- you'll doubt why you should live.

00:45:03.640 --> 00:45:07.640
It doesn't mean that I'm saying that you
have thoughts about suicide.

00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:13.360
But sometimes you'll have a feeling
that you wonder why you are here.

00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:16.440
What is my presence?
Does anyone love me?

00:45:16.560 --> 00:45:20.360
What can I do in this world?
What's my task?

00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.480
I think that question
will come up at some time.

00:45:23.600 --> 00:45:27.760
I'd almost say I hope so. Because
then you've thought about what life is.

00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:31.960
Nick Cave sings that he doesn't believe
in God up here.

00:45:32.080 --> 00:45:36.400
You learn that as a kid. God is sitting
on a cloud looking at you.

00:45:36.520 --> 00:45:40.160
He sings that he doesn't believe
in a God up here and angels.

00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:45.360
He doesn't believe in the children's
faith that he grew up with.

00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:50.720
But then he sings
that he believes in love.

00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:55.520
And that's exactly the meaning
of the biblical text that I read to you.

00:45:55.640 --> 00:45:58.440
If we love each other then God exists.

00:45:58.560 --> 00:46:02.520
So if you ask yourself one day,
"Why am I in this world?" then know:

00:46:02.640 --> 00:46:08.800
That the tiny bit of love that we give
each other creates love on Earth.

00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:13.760
There's a Danish philosopher
called Løgstrup.

00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:16.280
He said that each and every moment -

00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:19.640
- and it's one of the most
beautiful sentences written in Danish -

00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:23.400
- we hold a part
of each other's lives in our hands.

00:46:23.520 --> 00:46:28.120
It might be very, very little.
Just a small remark -

00:46:28.240 --> 00:46:33.640
- but it may also be so much
that it decides another person's life.

00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:38.120
So, if one day you're speculating
what your function is -

00:46:38.240 --> 00:46:41.280
- then believe me,
it's much greater than you think.

00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:45.320
Your life means much more
to others than you think.

00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:48.320
You can't just do what you feel like.

00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:51.520
The love you've received from someone
must be passed on.

00:46:51.640 --> 00:46:54.720
If love isn't passed on, it'll die.

00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:58.640
You can't just say "I love you"
without showing it.

00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:01.280
That's not passing it on.

00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:04.680
If you feel your parents
don't love you -

00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:09.680
- then demand that they love you.
Ask them. It's their duty.

00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:15.520
Love exists, but if we are to find God
we have to love each other.

00:47:15.640 --> 00:47:18.200
You can't love unless you have love.

00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:20.840
The moment you get it,
you have to pass it on.

00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:24.960
It's a circle. It has to be passed on
constantly. It's a thing you pass on.

00:47:25.080 --> 00:47:28.440
Here is the love I got from you,
now I'm giving it to you.

00:47:28.560 --> 00:47:32.560
If you don't pass it on the circle ends.
It stops.

00:47:32.680 --> 00:47:34.720
The world will die.

00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:40.040
That's your task.
You are love messengers and carriers.

00:47:40.160 --> 00:47:46.000
There are different
kinds of love, right?

00:47:46.120 --> 00:47:49.800
I don't think there's anything
as complicated as love.

00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:01.760
I think there are two different kinds.

00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:05.360
One is that you like something specific.

00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:10.320
But that also means that if it breaks -

00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:14.160
- you may end up hating it.
That kind of love...

00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:17.800
Then there's number two,
which is the love of everything -

00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.960
- that Jesus and Buddha
are talking about.

00:48:21.080 --> 00:48:23.480
The love of all things.

00:48:23.600 --> 00:48:28.760
I think there are these two kinds.

00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:01.920
My father was unfaithful and left us.
He left the home.

00:49:02.040 --> 00:49:04.960
And then my parents were divorced.

00:49:05.080 --> 00:49:11.080
So you can understand
that my family relations are very poor.

00:49:11.200 --> 00:49:16.560
And among my friends
that were religious -

00:49:16.680 --> 00:49:24.960
- many had bad relations
with their parents.

00:49:25.080 --> 00:49:32.960
In some way I made the founder
Asahara a substitute for my father.

00:49:33.080 --> 00:49:39.160
So behind Aum's problems there are
problems between children and parents.

00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:44.080
It's a religious life,
where you seek the ideal family.

00:49:44.200 --> 00:49:48.640
To live as a religious person
is to be separated from your family -

00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.520
- but part of that is -

00:49:51.640 --> 00:49:57.280
- replacing your own family
in your search for the ideal family.

00:50:17.720 --> 00:50:23.160
I want to read something for you that's
very important. That's what I thought.

00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:28.160
I can never find it when I need to.
Here! I found it.

00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:30.640
"You have heard that it was said:

00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:35.200
You shall love your neighbor
and hate your enemy.

00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:39.280
But I say to you, love your enemies -

00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:42.920
- and pray for those who persecute you -

00:50:43.040 --> 00:50:46.840
- so that you may be sons of your Father
who is in heaven.

00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:50.200
For he makes his sun rise on the evil
and on the good -

00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:54.360
- and sends rain
on the just and on the unjust.

00:50:54.480 --> 00:51:00.680
For if you only love those who love you,
what reward do you have?

00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.280
Do not even the tax collectors
do the same?

00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:07.880
And if you greet only your brothers,
what more are you doing than others?

00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.680
Do not even the Gentiles do the same?

00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:16.080
You therefore must be perfect,
as your heavenly Father is perfect.

00:51:16.200 --> 00:51:22.560
You shall love your neighbor
and love your enemy."

00:51:22.680 --> 00:51:25.480
Amen.

00:51:25.600 --> 00:51:29.320
The text is fine,
but the context is provocative.

00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:36.200
Love your enemy.
Love those who want to harm you.

00:53:02.680 --> 00:53:07.720
- I'm tired, Karsten.
- That's okay.

00:53:15.120 --> 00:53:19.880
Actually, Christianity doesn't deal
with ethics. You can't have a problem...

00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:23.640
"I have a problem,
I've been unfaithful to my wife...

00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:27.360
Let me check the Bible to see
what I should do."

00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:29.680
It doesn't say anything about it.

00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:33.200
You can't build a society
around the Bible -

00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:37.240
- because it doesn't contain laws
about what to do.

00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:42.080
There's only that super-rule that says
that you shall love your neighbor -

00:53:42.200 --> 00:53:47.400
- your God and your enemy
and how you do it is up to you.

00:53:48.520 --> 00:53:52.480
When you think of 'love' you probably
think of something that you feel.

00:53:52.600 --> 00:53:54.200
- Yes.
- Right?

00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:56.960
You feel something.

00:53:57.080 --> 00:54:00.880
That's part of Christianity as well,
but not only that.

00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:05.880
To love also means
you're entering a bus, you're standing -

00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:09.480
- you get a seat, you sit down,
an old lady enters -

00:54:09.600 --> 00:54:12.000
- there are no more seats...

00:54:12.120 --> 00:54:15.160
That's what happened yesterday.

00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:18.160
- We were sitting...
- ... on old people's seats.

00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:21.520
- Then a lot entered.
- We felt bad and got up.

00:54:21.640 --> 00:54:24.600
- Did you?
- And we were standing afterwards.

00:54:24.720 --> 00:54:28.680
We were sitting in the back.
But we didn't sit next to each other.

00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:31.000
But you see, that was love.

00:54:31.120 --> 00:54:35.440
What did you think
about the terror attack?

00:54:35.560 --> 00:54:39.400
It's quite scary when going by train.

00:54:39.520 --> 00:54:41.720
There are a lot of police -

00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:47.320
- with machine guns who
are standing guard. It's scary.

00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:52.320
But I also think that the media
are making too much of it.

00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:54.200
In a way I think -

00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:59.800
- the fact that
the terrorists get into the media -

00:54:59.920 --> 00:55:03.240
- is like a celebration of them -

00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:06.880
- so that the rest of the world
can see what they've done.

00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:10.000
Not long ago
the gangs in Nørrebro were fighting.

00:55:10.120 --> 00:55:15.000
What was the difference?
Why did people react so differently?

00:55:15.120 --> 00:55:17.480
Did anyone think about that?

00:55:17.600 --> 00:55:24.040
He shot at arbitrary people.
He just shot at whoever he could hit.

00:55:24.160 --> 00:55:27.400
In gang wars they are aiming
at someone specific.

00:55:27.520 --> 00:55:30.400
It's an inside thing
that doesn't concern us.

00:55:30.520 --> 00:55:32.680
Exactly.

00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:39.000
I think people reacted so strongly
because they felt under attack.

00:55:40.120 --> 00:55:44.320
When I read to you in the church
that you have to love your enemy -

00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:48.520
- it's not because I think
you can always do that.

00:55:48.640 --> 00:55:52.120
I just think
you should always remember it.

00:55:52.240 --> 00:55:56.480
I once told you: every religion
contains a potential for violence -

00:55:56.600 --> 00:56:00.400
- also in Christianity. You don't have
to read a lot of Church history -

00:56:00.520 --> 00:56:04.640
- to realize how much shit the Christian
Church did. How much power it had.

00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:08.440
Now it has no power,
at least not in Denmark.

00:56:08.560 --> 00:56:11.600
That's how it should be.
The Church should not have power.

00:56:11.720 --> 00:56:16.320
Christianity doesn't have rules.
Therefore it's also a church of freedom.

00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:19.080
It requires you to contemplate issues
so much -

00:56:19.200 --> 00:56:21.720
- that you realize
it's wise to love your enemy.

00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.440
The moment you demand
that you love your enemy -

00:56:24.560 --> 00:56:27.880
- you say the same thing to your enemy.

00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:32.480
That's the only way to create peace
in the world.

00:57:08.520 --> 00:57:15.800
I lived in the Yamanashi region
till I was 18 years old -

00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:20.280
- near Mount Fuji.

00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:24.720
Yesterday when we visited there -

00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:31.480
- we passed the place
where Aum was located a long time ago.

00:57:31.600 --> 00:57:36.800
I also lived there for a short period
while I was a member of Aum.

00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:40.960
One place was very close to Mount Fuji.

00:57:41.080 --> 00:57:46.280
It was a place where you could see
Mount Fuji... very beautiful and big.

00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:49.800
But while I was with Aum,
I didn't see it at all.

00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:53.960
I'm wondering
how I could not see it -

00:57:54.080 --> 00:57:59.240
- but I was surrounded by the building -

00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:03.080
- and I didn't really look around.

00:58:03.200 --> 00:58:08.520
We were not allowed to.

00:58:08.640 --> 00:58:13.160
The beauty of nature, to look
at nature... was considered lust.

00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:17.680
It was mostly about
limiting desires -

00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:21.120
- that we weren't allowed to have.

00:58:21.240 --> 00:58:25.520
He said I wasn't allowed to,
so I made sure not to look at it.

00:58:25.640 --> 00:58:32.960
Even though I was so close, I never
experienced how wonderful Mount Fuji is.

00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:43.960
And afterward, with body language.

00:58:44.080 --> 00:58:48.440
- L-O-V-E
- You won't make me do that.

00:58:48.560 --> 00:58:52.880
The second-to-last nap
in Tårnby Church.

00:58:55.560 --> 00:58:59.000
The wind rattles with twigs and branches

00:58:59.120 --> 00:59:02.840
The night is black, I'm all alone

00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:06.560
The hotel where I live is empty

00:59:06.680 --> 00:59:12.600
it's buzzing with visions and words

00:59:12.720 --> 00:59:16.720
I do not know who I am about to meet

00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:22.640
whether it is the living or the dead

00:59:26.920 --> 00:59:30.560
From the park they stand looking

00:59:30.680 --> 00:59:34.560
through the window to where I lie

00:59:34.680 --> 00:59:38.400
Have they escaped or do they enter

00:59:38.520 --> 00:59:44.200
the crooked phantoms that fill my mind

00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:48.400
I light a candle and sip some water

00:59:48.520 --> 00:59:56.320
the road is blocked to dreamland

00:59:57.680 --> 01:00:02.680
I don't know if you feel you haven't
learned enough about who God is.

01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:07.080
But I think...
you have to decide for yourself.

01:00:07.200 --> 01:00:12.960
Who is God?
The best answer is, "I am who I am."

01:00:13.080 --> 01:00:18.280
That way, and I think this
is the finest thing about Christianity -

01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:22.520
- if I can't explain better than you
who God is -

01:00:22.640 --> 01:00:28.080
- then I can never decide who God is
and so control God.

01:00:28.200 --> 01:00:31.600
Therefore I can never make a sect
in the Church -

01:00:31.720 --> 01:00:34.320
- where you have to think
the same as me -

01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:39.200
- and so I can't take your freedom away.
You've come here for eight months...

01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:43.840
I hope I haven't told you how to live
your life, or who God really is.

01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:48.000
And that's exactly the point:
I am not here to explain that to you.

01:00:48.120 --> 01:00:52.880
You have to have the freedom
to decide it and want it.

01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:59.680
If after these eight months you really
haven't figured out who God is -

01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:01.640
- it's okay.

01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:04.920
As long as you've thought about it.

01:01:05.040 --> 01:01:09.760
That was always the most exciting
thing about teaching confirmands -

01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:12.360
- to see you develop -

01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:15.000
- get to know yourselves.

01:01:15.120 --> 01:01:17.640
"Who is God?"
is the assignment title.

01:01:52.080 --> 01:01:57.200
I guess God is within you,
because faith in within you.

01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:05.880
God will love you even if you have
no faith or have another faith.

01:02:10.680 --> 01:02:15.840
I don't know if I can believe in God
himself. Perhaps God is a soul -

01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:22.160
- because it's difficult to believe
that God is in Heaven watching us.

01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:28.560
God is the one who is always there.

01:02:28.680 --> 01:02:32.880
He can bring you strength
but may also punish you.

01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:36.480
God is the outline of the world.

01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:43.840
For me, God is still a man
sitting in Heaven -

01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:47.040
- and I think he'll always be that.

01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:53.440
God is the one we can't get rid of.

01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:58.160
He's everything, but nothing.

01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:03.080
God is dreams and hopes,
the good in the evil.

01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:12.920
God is a helping hand, a thought,
a superstition.

01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:21.320
God is always your friend.
God loves everybody.

01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:23.160
God is.

01:03:27.560 --> 01:03:32.160
You first ask yourself
whether God exists or not.

01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:38.240
A question that we human beings
can never answer.

01:03:44.080 --> 01:03:49.280
I've liked the Universe,
I've liked Outer Space -

01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:53.280
- since the time of the Moon landing -

01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:57.200
- when I was very small.

01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:01.160
So I like to think -

01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:06.480
- that the Universe that I liked
is Buddha and God himself.

01:04:35.240 --> 01:04:40.560
I left home in 1989. In 2009,
I went home again for the first time.

01:04:40.680 --> 01:04:43.640
I started working on atonement
in 2009 -

01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:47.480
- and shortly thereafter I went home
for the first time in 20 years.

01:04:47.600 --> 01:04:53.520
Since then I've sent flowers
on my mother's birthday every year.

01:04:53.640 --> 01:04:57.400
And yesterday we spoke on the phone.

01:04:57.520 --> 01:05:01.880
And when I came home the first time
after 20 years, my mother said:

01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:07.480
"No matter where you go,
you're still our child."

01:05:15.520 --> 01:05:20.400
- The Bible!
- The Bible.

01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:57.760
What we'll be doing today...

01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:01.640
We'll have the last session -

01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:06.640
- where you'll tell me
who you were and who you are.

01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:09.800
Last session with that.

01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:15.160
We'll find a scriptural text for your
confirmation. And do a dress rehearsal.

01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:19.800
Thanks for your essays
on "Who is God?"

01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:23.320
It was very good. Really good.

01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:26.320
- Jasmin, yours was... damn good.
- No.

01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:28.880
Yes, it was. And well written.

01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:31.840
- How did you know it was hers?
- Her name was on it.

01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:38.640
I think you have been really good at
following me in this strange process -

01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:42.920
- of finding out who you are.
You have to find out who  you  are.

01:06:43.040 --> 01:06:45.680
Only that way
you'll find out who God is.

01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:48.560
I've got your essays
where you wrote who you were.

01:06:48.680 --> 01:06:50.800
I just read them. They were very good.

01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:54.400
Something's happened
in those eight months.

01:06:54.520 --> 01:06:58.560
I'll see that
when you now write something new.

01:06:59.680 --> 01:07:03.520
When I'm completely
with the Universe itself -

01:07:03.640 --> 01:07:09.040
- in such a holy place like
Mount Fuji, I do not think about myself.

01:07:09.160 --> 01:07:11.840
There's no concept of "me" in my mind.

01:07:27.040 --> 01:07:29.960
I'm a happy and shy girl -

01:07:30.080 --> 01:07:33.480
- who constantly tries
to challenge myself.

01:07:33.600 --> 01:07:39.520
At present, I feel very happy
but also a little sad.

01:07:44.080 --> 01:07:46.600
First and foremost, I'm myself.

01:07:46.720 --> 01:07:50.640
I like being with others.

01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:55.480
I haven't yet found out who I am,
but I'm sure it'll come.

01:07:59.560 --> 01:08:05.200
I can be aggressive. I'm loving.
I'm sensitive.

01:08:12.600 --> 01:08:15.000
I'm a boy who's quite strange -

01:08:15.120 --> 01:08:18.880
- and I feel that my thoughts
are different from those of others -

01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:22.240
- and sometimes that they're wrong.

01:08:25.440 --> 01:08:28.960
I'm an open girl and I love
being together with my friends -

01:08:29.080 --> 01:08:34.160
- and I hate being alone. I always
have the courage of my convictions.

01:08:39.200 --> 01:08:41.520
I'm a boy, I'm 15.

01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:47.480
I'm sensitive, happy,
sad, nice, stupid and good.

01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:51.840
I feel I've become wiser about my faith.

01:08:56.280 --> 01:09:01.400
I'm me. I'm happy. I've got friends.
And only rarely am I sad -

01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:04.120
- or show it.

01:09:07.280 --> 01:09:11.080
In a way I think I'm good
at remembering unimportant things -

01:09:11.200 --> 01:09:14.400
- while I often forget
the important ones.

01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:21.320
A girl who thinks about
what others think about me.

01:09:21.440 --> 01:09:24.920
A girl who thinks about my family.

01:09:25.040 --> 01:09:29.000
A girl who doesn't like
too much attention.

01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:38.200
"Whatever you wish that others
would do to you, do also to them."

01:09:38.320 --> 01:09:41.440
"Blessed are those who have not seen
and yet believe."

01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:44.280
God is not one that you see.

01:09:44.400 --> 01:09:47.760
If you could say,
"This is what he looks like" -

01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:50.680
- it wouldn't make you any happier.

01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:54.280
If Jesus were to cross
the yard out here -

01:09:54.400 --> 01:09:58.680
- there'd be no reason for your
confirmation. We could close the Church.

01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:01.600
You can't believe
in something that's there.

01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:05.120
Come up here and write your nice names.

01:10:12.400 --> 01:10:15.080
Did anyone take this one?

01:10:19.480 --> 01:10:24.600
- Did you choose?
- I'll take that one.

01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:29.320
That one's good.

01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:53.240
I believe it's a kind of insight...

01:11:53.360 --> 01:11:56.520
When I started to think like that -

01:11:56.640 --> 01:12:02.480
- I started to perceive everybody in
the same way. The people in this park...

01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:07.080
The world is divided
into different peoples and countries...

01:12:07.200 --> 01:12:11.560
Not just humans,
also animals and plants.

01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:14.800
Also this child!

01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:22.120
I began to think that we're all
children of the great, great mother.

01:12:22.240 --> 01:12:25.320
- Listen up!
- You say we can exchange them.

01:12:25.440 --> 01:12:27.720
- Just leave it be.
- I offered...

01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:30.360
Listen! The drama is over.

01:12:30.480 --> 01:12:35.280
We'll meet at 11:30
in the classroom, okay?

01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:07.600
The difficult part starts here, right?
It's the womb, right?

01:13:07.720 --> 01:13:10.480
Yes, it's right here. Yes.

01:13:12.920 --> 01:13:16.440
The womb is right across.

01:13:48.280 --> 01:13:52.920
They considered this place
to be inside the body of Buddha.

01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:05.000
I know I've confused you.
That was the plan all along.

01:14:05.120 --> 01:14:09.640
Then you came on your bikes,
every Thursday morning -

01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:11.600
- always on time -

01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:15.280
- and I made you think
about life and death -

01:14:15.400 --> 01:14:17.800
- love and family,
who you are -

01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:20.000
- what you hope for -

01:14:20.120 --> 01:14:23.680
- what you dream about.

01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:26.240
That's what the Church is about.

01:14:26.360 --> 01:14:30.520
The longing for something greater,
something better -

01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.080
- toward what we dream about.

01:14:33.200 --> 01:14:38.480
And as a first, no one wrote "Fuck God"
on the table in the classroom.

01:14:41.080 --> 01:14:44.960
And no one stole the communion cups.

01:14:45.080 --> 01:14:49.520
I was wondering
whether I really was in Tårnby.

01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:52.920
When they stand, you do too.

01:14:53.040 --> 01:14:55.640
And then you walk...

01:15:11.440 --> 01:15:13.640
- Stand up.
- Yes, I knew.

01:15:32.120 --> 01:15:35.200
Maria Annika Rostad. Will you
be confirmed in the Christian faith?

01:15:35.320 --> 01:15:36.680
Yes.

01:15:38.280 --> 01:15:41.040
Emma Sofie Petersen. Will you
be confirmed in the Christian faith?

01:15:41.160 --> 01:15:42.480
Yes.

01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:49.760
Emma, in John,
chapter 1, verse 5, says -

01:15:49.880 --> 01:15:53.480
"The light shines in the darkness, and
the darkness has not overcome it."

01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:57.080
Daniel Velde Andersen. Will you be
confirmed in the Christian faith?

01:15:57.200 --> 01:15:58.520
Yes.

01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:02.240
"The Father of Jesus Christ who has
accepted you, His child, in Holy Baptism

01:16:02.360 --> 01:16:05.520
May He strengthen your faith,
and be the giver of hope

01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:09.200
May He bless you and keep you
in His love."

01:20:44.200 --> 01:20:47.000
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