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[sil.] Dear, dear! How queer everything is

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to-day! And yesterday things went on just
as usual. I wonder if I\'ve been changed

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in the night?

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[sil.] Epilepsy? Epilepsy. I don\'t know
anything. All I know is that they have seizures

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and things like that. Seizures, uh,
need medications to not go into

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the seizures-type thing. Is it a, um,
something in the brain, like a, I don\'t know?

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If they\'re standing up, they\'ll
fall down, and they\'ll lose their

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control of their muscles. Well, it\'s pretty scary because
you don\'t know what\'s gonna happen to \'em when they\'re

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there having a fit. All I
know is that it\'s a disease.

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[music] I suddenly grew very

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small. I felt as if I was about
an inch or two in height,

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and everything else looked really big.
And I was trapped inside my dark

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room. And I was on the floor, so I
decided I\'d just run right under

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the crack in the door, and I would go out in
the hall and call them. And then it occurred

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to me if I call them, they\'ll step on me.
They won\'t see me. I\'ve had

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religious experiences wake me and
come in through the windows, as if

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a, a massive stream of light is
coming in from a deity or a god.

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And I don\'t know why I\'m taking pills
to prevent it. They are fascinating

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experiences. Or I\'ve had
experiences where the Windows

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are, are being opened in
the middle of the night,

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and I will have a, a, two deities come in

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and talk to me about what is real.
I grew up in Belmont

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and live very close to McLean Hospital, which
is a very renown-, you know, well-known

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psychiatric hospital. And I\'d be in the backseat
of the car with my family and saying to myself,

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and probably I think at one point to my mother,
\"I\'m going to end up there soon because I think

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I\'m losing my mind.\" We had one
patient who, um, his seizure

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was the sense that he was being
chased by Humpty Dumpty. And, uh,

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for years and years, he was taken from
one psychiatrist to another until

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he was discovered to have epilepsy
in his, I believe it was his late

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20\'s or early 30\'s. In our
parents\' time, yours and mine,

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which wasn\'t that long ago, people
with complex partial seizures

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were put in state institutions.

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We were considered crazy.
I know cases today

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where, uh,

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a friend of mine, she was misdiagnosed
for years and she was in, a, a mental

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institution. And they finally diagnosed
it and figured it out that she had TLE.

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If you think of the brain being able to,
you know, your imagination, you can

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think and see and hear and feel anything.
And often, with temporal lobe

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epilepsy, any of those thoughts
that you have can be recreated

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during a temporal lobe seizure.
And, um, you know, it can be

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anything. It could be smelling things. It could
be sensing, you know, things, seeing things

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that aren\'t there. Sometimes,
I\'ll smell, um, rice, in the

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middle of the night. And uh, it\'s unmistakable.
There is no other way to say it.

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It is rice cooking. So I\'ll get up and
go downstairs at three in the morning,

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and there was no rice. The place was deserted.
Everyone was in bed. Since within the

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brain, uh, the temporal
lobe is where the emotions

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are regulated, um, when you have abnormal
electrical activity in the temporal

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lobe, one\'s emotional life
becomes a roller coaster.

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And clearly, um, depressions can
come from out of the blue. Patients

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who are otherwise perceiving reality
perfectly normally can become quite

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paranoid, can become fearful. It was so strange
that I couldn\'t understand why it was getting

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so forceful, those emotions. So
I went to see a psychiatrist,

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and I just got worse and worse and worse.
And he tried everything under the

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sun. And all the, uh, things
that he tried, the medicines

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that he, he tried made sense
if you didn\'t think this

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was epilepsy. It can be mistaken for an
emo-, emotional and mental disorder.

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Uh, it could be mistaken as a, uh, a
heart disorder. Sometimes a seizure

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may cause a feeling of
a, a racing heart. Uh,

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it may be thought to be a panic or anxiety
disorder. A lot of individuals suffer

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for a very long time because they are
misdiagnosed and passed from one

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specialist to another. Um, and then
f-, finally, they may cross the

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path of a specialist who says, \"This sounds
odd. Let\'s send the patient to this center

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and rule out epilepsy. In the majority
of people that, uh, I see in my

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practice, the cause is
not obvious from x-ray

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studies or from, uh, brain wave tests.
Typical causes for partial

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seizures are head injuries, particularly
serious head injuries that result in a

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concussion, uh, small growths
that may develop in the brain,

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or in people, uh, typically
over the age of, uh, 50 or 60,

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uh, strokes. When I was
about, uh, 14 years old,

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I was around the corner,
uh, up in the woods

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with a good friend of mine and his little
brother. We were fishing at a pond.

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And his younger brother was down the
other end of the pond tossing rocks in

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to scare the fish down to our end.
And to make a long story short, he

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missed once and hit me on the side of the
head. I proceeded to bleed and almost passed

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out. It seemed to be that that was
the end of it, at the time. At about

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a year later, I started having
what I thought were nightmares.

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I was waking up at night and screaming
and possibly even shaking at

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the time. So I thought they
were just bad dreams. I went to

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the doctor, and the doctor said,
\"You have to go have one of

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those EEG tests.\" An EEG is
a test that, uh, measures

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the electrical activity of the brain. Uh,
it\'s a study that is done by placing

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electrodes in a very standardized way over
the scalp and then recording, uh, the

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potential, electrical potential differences between
those electrodes, and doing that on a graphic

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form so that it\'s a dynamic study
done over time. The brain is, uh,

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can be thought of as composed of, of thousands
of little batteries all interconnected

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to one another. And, uh,
each group of batteries is

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responsible for some specific function or
operation of the brain, whether it\'s seeing

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or speaking or moving. And if a short
circuit develops in a particular group of

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batteries, then the function of that
group of batteries will be temporarily

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lost. If the, uh, nerve
cells or batteries have

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to do with feelings or emotions, then the
individual may feel an unusual emotion, such as

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panic or fear or even happiness,
impending doom, then that would be

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the seizure. If the experience of
the person during the seizure,

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uh, renders them unconscious,
that is, a blackout,

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it\'s referred to as a complex partial
seizure. Now that usually means

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that memory, uh, is affected,
that the person is unable to form

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new memories. And much like, uh, speaking
into a tape recorder and forgetting

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to push the record button, it\'s as
if nothing happened, uh, while the

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person was speaking or while the person was living
for that period of time. They don\'t remember

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it. It\'s a great deal like you
leave your television show

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when a commercial comes on, and you come back
and you realize you\'ve missed a lot. And

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I just notice that in life, I wondered if
people were getting a lot more out of it than

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I was. I was just getting little hints
because I thought, well, gee, I missed a lot

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of this class. I don\'t know where it went. I don\'t
have notes for half of my class or something.

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I realized I was missing blocks of time. You
know, I was having seizures during lectures,

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and I\'d be writing things and, you know, I\'d miss
probably half of a person\'s lecture. But, um, you know,

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I was, I managed to do OK. Then I went to
college, and it was in college that things

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really got worse for me. Um, I would
do things. I would be going across

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a very busy street,. Now if you want to think of
downtown, a street downtown Boston. And I\'d go from

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point A to point B having crossed this Tremont
Street or whatever and not know how I got

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there. I went home. I was eating a
yogurt, and I had a spoon, and I went

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home. And I didn\'t make it that far.
I then seized. And

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I guess I dropped my yogurt and spoon.
And I crossed 135, which is a main,

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main road. I managed to get across. I don\'t know
how. But I obviously made it across, luckily.

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I just don\'t know if cars stopped
for me and saw me crossing or not.

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I feel a seizure coming and I usually can say something.
I usually can say, \"I\'m going out,\" you know, or,

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or, \"I\'m going to seizure.\" And I just yell
it out. Whoever hears it hears it, you know,

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if I\'m at work or if I\'m at home, you know.

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And, uh, they tell me, uh,
because after that lil\' yellow,

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that little feeling, that high feeling
that I get, I don\'t remember a

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thing for 20 minutes. For the next
20 minutes, I do not know what I do.

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It used to be 45. You might
get, uh, very, very complex

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behaviors that look to the outsider
as though you\'re perfectly normal

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and just like the, the person next to you
who\'s just going on and doing their usual

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things. But the difference is that you\'re,
you may be completely unaware. And this

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sequence of movements is uninterruptible. It\'s
not a planned sequence. It\'s just automatic

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behaviors that unfold. I like to go
through my purse. I\'ll go through

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my purse and see what\'s in my purse, take things
out, put things back in. I\'ll go through every,

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um, cabinet in the kitchen, close the doors,
open them up, close the doors, open them up.

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A few times, I have torn out every

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wire from our, uh, stereo cable television

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system. On one big occasion at a
convention that we had once, I

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decided to take off all my clothing.
That one really got me.

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[sil.] You don\'t know what you\'re gonna do.

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[sil.] That\'s what gets you with TLA.

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That\'s what people say to me.
You don\'t know what you\'re

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going to do, and it\'s scary as hell.

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[sil.] You can go out
onto Washington Street

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and take your clothes off
in the middle of Washington

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Street. You can go out on Washington
Street, go over to Filene\'s

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Basement, and start ripping off everything and
walk out the door, get arrested. You don\'t

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know. Rita had a seizure, and
it was in the middle of a mall

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area. And Rita stopped right
in the middle of the street

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she was walking. So meanwhile,
the cars are coming.

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Mother is directing the cars around Rita.
She\'s got Rita in one hand. She\'s directing

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the cars in the other hand. She\'s watching
traffic. She\'s watching Rita. And

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Rita started to take off her shirt now because
Rita is, oh, I\'m sorry, Rita is tired, and

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she\'s, she\'s unbuttoning, and she\'s getting
ready to go hit the sack. Mother is

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totally frustrated. She can\'t handle this.
It scared her to death because she\'s never

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seen, you know, just stop anywhere
in the middle of everything

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and go ahead and have your seizure time. To
describe a person with temporal lobe epilepsy,

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it\'s very, very difficult because, you
know, uh, everybody has their own

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personality as well as, you know, like,
depending on what part of the temporal lobe is

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affected. So it could take any number of turns,
you know. Just like there are many different

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shades of brown hair or blonde hair or red
hair, for that matter, there are many

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different shades of temporal lobe epilepsy.
If we feel that the individual,

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uh, is likely to have had a seizure, then
we rely on certain, uh, diagnostic tests to

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determine whether there is an identifiable
cause underlying it. And, uh, to that end, we

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rely quite heavily on x-ray studies of
the brain. And as time has gone by,

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we\'ve gone from rather crude tests to
much more sophisticated tests, uh, uh,

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which, uh, the most modern of which
is the MRI scan. Certainly, MR was a

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major advance. MR technology came
about, uh, five, six years ago, and

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the advances in there are still happening.
But, um, it basically allowed us to

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look at parts of the nervous system and
image parts of the nervous system in

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ways that would confirm that something had
happened to the brain. And if a patient

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is having a seizure or about to have
a seizure, the functional imaging

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will look different, uh, in the area
that supports the seizure than it would

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if the patient were at rest and, and
feeling normal. One of the roles of the

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neuropsychologist in the examination
is to determine whether you

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can pinpoint the area or areas of the
brain that are affected by the epilepsy

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based on their pattern of performance on
a series of tests of different mental

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functions. We look at attentional
functions. We look at

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memory. We look at language
abilities because we\'re looking at

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the functioning of the left side of the brain.
We look at, uh, visuo-spatial abilities,

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which looks at the integrity of the right
side of the brain. And we look at reasoning

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and abstraction ability. And each
of these areas has some implication

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for brain networks and how they\'re
functioning. Surgical treatment of,

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of seizures is considered to be an option
in the event that none of the available

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medications, uh, have
been effective for a, a

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particular individual. Whether
it was because of side effects

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that the individual couldn\'t tolerate or
because simply they did not stop that person\'s

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seizures. Things got to the point where I was doing
things that I didn\'t know I was doing and putting my life

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in my hands. You know, a neurologist had said to
me, \"I think you might be a good candidate for

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surgery.\" This was at the Lahey Clinic in,
um, Burlington. And at the time, I, I just

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looked at him like he slapped me across the face, like,
\"You\'ve got to be kidding.\" It was in September.

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I\'ll never forget that. And, uh, you
know, I just walked away saying, \"Brain

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surgery?\" You know. Um, \"They\'re touching my
brain?\" My right arm, my right, you know.

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My left arm, fine, but not my brain,
you know. I\'m not gonna be me.

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I think a lot of people fear
surgery, uh, for epilepsy

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for several reasons. One is there
is a lay population understanding

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of, uh, of surgery on the brain.
And I think patients oftentimes

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mistake lobotomies and that type of
psychosurgery for the type of ep-, type of

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surgery that\'s done for someone who
has epilepsy. Uh, epilepsy surgery

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[is very different than that. And epilepsy surgery,
what we\'re trying to do is remove damaged nervous

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system, portions of the nervous system
that are generating seizure discharges.

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I\'ve considered it and followed
a couple of people on it,

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my concern being that if you
do it, you can\'t undo it.

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If you take a pill, hopefully over two days
or three days, it\'s passed out of your

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system anyways. And then for you,
whoever you are, yourself can come back

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to who you are. I\'d rather take a pill
because I don\'t wanna have somebody

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probe around in my brain. I don\'t wanna give them
that much power over me. It\'s this part of me

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that wants to be, OK. What if
they make a mistake? What if they

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do something wrong? Well, it\'s been 16 years
since I\'ve had my surgery, and, knock on wood,

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wherever it is. Uh, and I do have to do
that because you still think that you may

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have a seizure. That\'s still with a person
that\'s, you know, been seizure-free. But,

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um, I haven\'t had a seizure since my operation.
They had found out that my seizures were coming

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too close to my short-term memory, and that
it would be too much of a risk to operate.

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So I was a little frustrated then. Most
of the people in the meeting are under

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control, whereas I\'m not yet. I\'ve told them
before that I tried to be a candidate for

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surgery and that it\'s just, it\'s
just not working right now for me.

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But, um, I wish it would because
I\'m getting really frustrated

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with this. Um, oftentimes, young men

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with seizure disorders will describe that, you
know, how can you go out on a date if you

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can\'t drive? Um, do you explain
to a woman on the first date

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that you have epilepsy which is why you can\'t
drive and that\'s why you\'re kind of taking

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public transportation that evening? What if
it\'s not the way you wanna introduce yourself

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to a new person who you\'re hoping to, uh,
develop a relationship with? It\'s very

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difficult. They would ask me, \"Do you drive?\" and
I would say no. And sometimes, that would turn

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them around because if I go, \"Geez, I don\'t wanna go out
with you. I would always have to come chauffeur you

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and pick you up.\" When we first moved
to the location that we are living now,

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um, I went around, you know, the
neighborhood and introduced myself. And

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that\'s why I know I\'m known
as friendly me, I guess.

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And I made friends with a woman around the

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corner, and uh, oh, I\'d go in and we\'d
chit-chat and we\'d visit and, uh,

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we go for little walks, and we became,
you know. We were starting up a

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nice little friendship. And, uh,
then one day, I had a seizure.

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I had told her about the seizures.
And, uh, within a few

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minutes, we started talking, and
I was feeling fine. And I was,

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we were talking about the seizure, and then
she told me that she couldn\'t handle them

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and that she thought we better
stop seeing each other.

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They\'re scared first and confused. But then
once I go in and explain it to them what

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happens when I seize, they learn to
accept that they\'ll be all right.

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And I said, \"Look. If I do this and that, if I
just blank, don\'t worry about it. I don\'t have

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the grand mal. I don\'t fall. There\'s
nothing to be afraid of.\" Um,

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it\'s helped some, but sometimes, it
just doesn\'t help any. Sometimes

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still, they just don\'t wanna have anything
to do with me. So it\'s their loss.

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And they get nervous, I mean,
because you could do all

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kinds of things in the middle of that afternoon.
You could end up, literally, the show of the day,

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all right? And I\'m not laughing at this.
I\'m just saying that all the attention was

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on the bride. However, this lady over in the audience
just had a seizure and has been rolling around for

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half an hour. OK? They\'re worried.
They don\'t know what to do with it.

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They don\'t know how to treat it. \"Should we invite her
the next time? Should we be put through the scare

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again?\" You know, that kind of thing. Unless they\'ve known
you for a long time, uh, you could get that kind of a

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thing. You know that something
happens, and you know that it\'s wrong.

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It\'s nasty. You don\'t talk about it.
And it\'s still there.

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It\'s still out there. That is something we are
trying to break. People are still putting

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spoons in the mouths of people having
the grand mal seizure, the tonic-clonic

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seizure. They\'re still putting things in the mouth.
People still think the only two seizures that

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exist are the grand mal seizure and the
petit mal seizure. They don\'t know

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that there is anything else, and there\'s many, many,
many types of seizure activity. It really does

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help if there is anybody
who understands what TLE

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is. If there is people that just
like you for your ebullient happy

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self, those people are like empty

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eggshells. There is nothing there.
They can\'t support you.

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They can\'t help you. If anything ever happens,
they\'ll crack, and then they\'re gone.

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The employment program that we have here
helps the, the people with epilepsy

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find positions. We do in-service
programs where we go to

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the community. Um, uh,
we go to corporations

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and we talk to the employment people about what, what
it\'s all about, what epilepsy is all about because

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they have, uh, workers that have it.
They found that my biggest problem

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is going through that initial interview
or interviews when it does come

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up about a medical disability
and it gets mentioned.

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You know, you don\'t have to lie about
it all the time. Just say truthfully,

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\"Yes, I have a disability. I\'m taking
medication,\" and then you won\'t go beyond

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another interview. Technically, they
shouldn\'t do it. It\'s against the law, I

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know. But they\'ll come up with another reason.
Either the position is closed or they\'re,

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they didn\'t make enough money to put together
the nine positions that they said they were

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gonna have, and we didn\'t get a position.
I have my own

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business manufacturing rainwear products
that I have designed and sporting goods.

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I was at, in the beginning, dealing
with a venture capital company

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because the business was expanding. And
they were very excited about the product,

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and we\'ve been working together for almost
a month. I told him that I had epilepsy.

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And I told him the type of epilepsy, and I did all the
explaining, how it wasn\'t anything to worry about,

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and the type of epilepsy that I have,
but I wanted him to be aware and,

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uh, just in case I had a problem when
we were together. And he thanked me

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for telling him. He appreciated it.
He was very nice. A week

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later, I get a telephone call from the
comp-, from the venture capital company.

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\"We\'re sorry. We\'ve decided we
can\'t go with you. Good luck.\"

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It\'s like going to a place where an apartment is for
rent, and suddenly, you walk up to the door, \"Rita

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McLaughlin,\" and they say, \"I\'m sorry. The
apartment was rented yesterday.\" You know

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what was their reason? There are some people
in the community who you\'re never gonna

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educate, people who are scared, people who hold prejudices.
But I think that there are enough people out there

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who are willing to, um,
learn about epilepsy,

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who are willing to try to modify jobs so that
if they think that they have an individual

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who is a capable individual and who can be a
valued employee, um, they may be willing to

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try to tailor a job so that
they can, um, hire that

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person. Working at Babson I do like. I\'ve been there
for five years now, and I\'ve been all over the

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area in that club. I first started
working in the, um, lounge because

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I liked to be around people, and I
liked to cook and serve people. So I

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was there first. And then, um, my seizures
began to pick up a little bit. So

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they had a meeting. And they cut
my, um, hours back and had me

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leave the lounge because they were too worried
that I would hurt myself by cutting myself or

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spilling hot food. And, um,
they, luckily, they found

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some other position for me there. They just didn\'t
totally let me go, which was very nice of them.

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When you have an illness hit
you, you don\'t have any time

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for training. You\'ve got to break right
in, find out what\'s going on, or

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sit there in a daze. Rita approached this
thing with all the legitimacy that I think

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it could ever be approached with. Uh,
she found out there was an Epilepsy

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Association. She went in. She found out there
were support groups. She became a part of those

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support groups. And I honestly said that
this is something that I have been given to

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deal with. All right. I can do it.
I can deal with it.

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But I need a little help, and
I\'ve gotten it. First, I was

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ups-, I was denying it. Then I was
angry and \"This is unfair\" kind of

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thing. And then I, uh, I accepted.

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I still would, would much rather
be in the state of denial, but,

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you know, there\'s people that have worse
problems than I do. I think I\'m pretty

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lucky. They are not only illness.
They are not only individuals

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with cognitive deficits and
emotional problems. But many of

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these people indeed lead
lives that are productive.

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They are able to find jobs
that, in which they can

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work and be productive. Um,
they\'re oftentimes enormously

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talented people in terms of artistic talents.
So that I think that we need to look

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at these patients as people
and to see the whole profile.

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To a great extent, it is treatable.
It is nothing to be ashamed of.

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It is a condition that really, uh,
is something that you live with

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your whole life but that can be managed
with proper medications or with surgery.

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And that, um, people with epilepsy are
just like everybody else, except they have

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epilepsy. And that once there
is a greater social acceptance

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of individuals with epilepsy, um, I think
it will make it easier for everybody.

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