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[music]

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We\'ve known for a long time that
there was, uh, something different.

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There\'s no one pigeonhole you can just say he\'s
exactly that. He\'s got so many things that\'s

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working. In the beginning,
it was, uh, a serious

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developmental delay. Pervasive developmental
disorder, there\'s a lot of names.

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He\'s high-functioning autism
Asperger\'s Syndrome. ADD. Asperger\'s

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Disorder. Anxiety. We\'re still trying to figure
that whole issue out. She has Asperger\'s.

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He\'s developed into very high functioning autism.
As far as three weeks ago: it\'s Asperger.

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It\'s all under Asp-, under autism.
He\'s still on the same spectrum.

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I got my diagnosis around February, um,

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yeah, Fe-, around February, I think
maybe early March. Around that area.

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This year? Yes. Is it, do, is it,
like embarrassing at all to you?

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No! Absolutely not.

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[music] The autism spectrum is the medical

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terminology for autism in general.
High-functioning autism,

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pervasive development disorder,
Asperger\'s Syndrome make

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up the higher end of the spectrum.
Academics

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isn\'t an issue, but they don\'t
understand the social norms.

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[music] We autistics don\'t exactly think our-, um, high
functioning autistics, low functioning, you know, uh,

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well that really is something that needs to be helped, but high-functioning autistics really
don\'t think themselves, they know they\'re different, but they don\'t, they don\'t think

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themselves,

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uh, less for it, you know, like most people would. In
fact, I, I acknowledge the fact that I\'m different, I

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actually like it, you know? I always felt
different. I like, I like the fact that I\'m

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unique, really, that I\'m not part of
the mainstream kind of thinking, the

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norm. I\'ve never wanted to be that.
But the general opinion on autistic

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children would be they\'re either
mentally challenged or retarded.

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No! And that to me is hypocritical.
They have a different way of thinking.

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My room is the most dangerous room when there\'s an
earthquake, but I have the safest room if there\'s

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a tornado. Is there a bigger chance of a tornado
or an earthquake here? Um, there\'s really neither

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one... This is actually, this, uh,
this is supposed to represent my

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dog, Sparky. He wasn\'t actually the best
dog. He used to like bite and growl and

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whatever. Very bad attitude. And
uh, a few quail on the wall?

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Yeah, that\'s actually one of my mom\'s pictures, but it\'s been up
in this room since my grandma and grandpa have been here, so.

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So, I noticed that you\'ve got your
mom\'s picture up there... Mm-hmm.

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Sister\'s flag with things she loves. Yeah. Your sister\'s stars,
a dog that you weren\'t fond of. What in this room really says

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\"Julie?\" Um, just that \"J\" right there that my mom got when I
was like three. It\'s not that they don\'t care. They just don\'t

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notice. So they\'re kind of oblivious to that as
part of their spatial awareness, as part of, they,

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they think more about themselves than other people because
they don\'t have those basic social skills that a lot of

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us, um, would take for granted
that we just know. Idioms, uh,

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irony, sarcasm. It isn\'t that easy. Like

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metaphors and such, you know? I would fake
it, kind of like wing it, and, and the

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fact that I\'d answer what I thought that it
meant, but then I would look it up on the

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internet, I\'d find out the definition of
that metaphor and I basically learned

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that. Okay. Joke of the Day: come
on, Peyton. Have you ever seen a

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man eating a tiger? No...
Have, have you ever

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seen a man eating tiger.

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Braden. Um, no, but I\'ve seen
somebody trying to tag her.

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Oh! Braden, you are so close!
Ronnie. Tiger,

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as a fort? No. But still close. All of our

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students have difficulty with pragmatic
language. Everything to them is black

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and white. They don\'t understand jokes.
They don\'t

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understand idioms. So when you say \"The
grass is always greener on the other

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side,\" they look at you and say, \"Where\'s
the grass and why is it greener?\"

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Have you ever seen a man eating tiger?

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No, but the, but in the cafe next door I once saw
a man eating chicken! Do we, do we get that?

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No. Uh, instead of the tiger, it
was a chicken. The children on the

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spectrum have an interest
in one particular area

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from the time that they\'re little,
whether it\'s volcanoes or

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Legos or Pokemon, Digimon, things

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that are typical for typical kids, but our kids obsess
about it. Nine years. Nine years of golfing. Since

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I was four. I make, like,
birdies, pars, sometimes

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eagles. I want to be a professional

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golfer... Yeah. Well I
got these from a show

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called Digimon, short for Digital Monsters.
I\'m drawing my

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own imaginary Digimon. This one:
he\'s different from the others.

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That\'s his spirit, the source of his dark
powers. But that doesn\'t mean he\'s a

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bad guy. Darkness isn\'t such a bad thing
unless you choose to make it that way.

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When I go to bed at night, I can\'t
fall asleep, so I just end up

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thinking. Thinking about, uh, what
I\'ve observed throughout the day,

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patterns, number patterns that
I\'ve seen, those types of things.

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This movie is about showing
the people, showing the whole

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world who, who I am?

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And...

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and like calling me on the phone,
everybody in the whole wide world

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calling on me on the phone. To

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start off this portion of the ceremony, I\'d like
to invite Tiffany up to introduce her group.

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[sil.] This year in lower school in our
social skills class we\'ve been working on

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defining what it means to be a good
citizen. One of our focuses has been on

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using common sense. It\'s been a difficult
concept to wrap our brains around, but we

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hope that you all enjoy our
interpretations of common sense.

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[sil.] Well, all of our kids present

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differently. Each student is unique.

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Pervasive development disorder, high-functioning
autism, Asperger\'s Syndrome, is the

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medical profession\'s way of
putting people into nice,

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neat little boxes. When I look
at a child, I don\'t see the

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disorder. I see the child. Hi.

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[sil.] I started

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researching all these other schools. I visited
one in New Hampshire, in fact. Wherever he

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was gonna go, we were gonna go. And

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so, Gateway, sorry, Gateway just opened up,

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you know? And, uh...

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we, we got in there and... he\'s really

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excelled... Claire, how was it growing up with your brother
Nathan? Um,... okay. Claire used to be like Nathan\'s best buddy,

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and, not that you guys aren\'t best buddies, but it
used to be really close, right? Yeah. Do you remember

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that, Nate? Yeah. You know, like if, if Nathan was
gonna go do something, C-, Claire\'d kind of like

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do it with him, and helped him and... I couldn\'t, I couldn\'t
get along with Peter or Paige. Yeah, that was hard.

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I was, like, the only one who
got along with him, so I

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kinda, I played video games with him, which is what
he did, or, he played with his Bionicles a lot

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and he always liked dinosaurs actually. He played with little plastic dinosaurs and
hit them together. Now, now the only person I can\'t get, um, and, get along with

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N-, is in the family is Peter. Hey, Peter, what
was it like growing up with your brother? Mm...

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Fun? Kind of. No, some things
were great, some were horrible.

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Horrible, horrible. Yeah. He broke stuff. Conflict...
Well I get frustrated when other people are

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frustrated \'cause when they\'re frustrated
it\'s annoying. SO it gets me frustrated...

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S-, nervous breakdowns get me frustrated.
I don\'t like

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be-, I don\'t like being
middle of stuff. Physical

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violence...

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I just don\'t feel comfortable
talking about stuff like that.

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He just like hit Peter a lot when Peter
was a baby so Peter\'s kinda crazy now.

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Not literally crazy, but it\'s kinda hard for him to
get over it because that\'s probably be hard to deal

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with. And he was like, r-, he got
that from like one to like five

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so it was really hard. Don\'t you like think we\'re doing
a pretty good job now though... Yeah... everybody?

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Yeah. Compared to how it used to be? Yeah.
I think so. You guys have done a

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great job... He broke a bus

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window, uh, he broke, uh, he
threw a rock at some lady\'s,

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uh, car, and hit her. 280ZX, he grabbed
her cell phone and broke it in

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half. Um, he ripped the glasses off the
principal at the elementary school. He tore,

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te-, can tear apart, you know, when
you\'re, he\'s out, he was out of

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control. He was, um, enraged. He
couldn\'t understand, I think, why

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life had handed him this, these
various situations. We\'ve had a

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lot of hurt people. How are you?
Good. What\'s your name?

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Nathan... I know I am

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different... I have autism... Um, I don\'t
like, uh, being around a lot of people.

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It\'s really noisy and I don\'t,
um, like any noisy stuff, and,

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um, and I react shy to people I\'ve
never seen. I don\'t, I don\'t think a

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lot of things are funny that everybody else
is. So I don\'t have a lot of emotion for

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funny stuff. A kid that came to us,

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um, well he\'d have meltdowns, uh, when
things were feeling difficult for

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him. Um, luckily we didn\'t see the violence, but
what we saw was a shutdown. He\'d close his eyes

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and curl up on the floor. Literally
turning into a little ball in his

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chair, or on the ground, or on the beanbag. Close
his eyes. He would close, soon as he started

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closing his eyes you knew that was it. You were
not going to talk to him, he was not going to

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do anything. It was over.
And he hasn\'t done that.

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In almost a year. So, have you seen a interview
before? Have you done an interview before?

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N-, no, but I sort of know how one works. They
like ask you the question and you, like answer it?

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Right. So that\'s what... I would, uh, we
just did, um, at, at school we were doing

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work that had to be paper, and had, and,
I, I s-, said I didn\'t like the feel

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of paper so they ca-, so they,
um, so they, um, thought of some

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solution to that. So Alec would say, welcome,
blank, you know, or can you introduce yourself.

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Hi, my name is Alec. What\'s yours? Blank. What do
you for a living? Save the world from terror and

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darkness. So Nathan has changed
dramatically. Better social skills with

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his peers, he\'s able to communicate what he\'s
feeling, what he needs. I wear green clothes and a

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green hat. Of course, it\'s the first time he ever made
friends and had, um, playdates. Start again. No we don\'t!

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Yes, we do! Not really. You missed a word. Dena
AltAnother thing with Nathan, as with, um, all our

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students is they don\'t understand
relationships, and facial

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expressions, and sometimes the difference
between different emotions. Blank. So we were

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teaching about that in our classes, about what does
happy look like and is it just a little bit happy or

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really happy? How do you determine what level
of happiness or sadness or anger? So one

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day, one of the other students comes up to class and he\'s
very excited about an experiment. And he\'s jumping up and

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down and he\'s got grin, ear-to-ear, and
Nathan just watched him. And few minutes

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later he started crying. And he asked to r-, I\'m gonna
start crying, he asked to remove himself from the

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room to the peace room and take a break.
Well, Nathan was very upset

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because he watched Bailey and realized what
Bailey was exhibiting was extreme happiness.

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And he was upset because he\'d never experienced
that and doesn\'t know what that feels

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like. So, of course through dialogue we talked about how
he has felt pretty happy, he just hasn\'t recognized

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what that means. What do you look

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like? What\'s your personality like?
What don\'t people know about you?

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[sil.]

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I can\'t think of anything.

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Um, do you like animals? Yeah, I
love animals. My favoritest dog was

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Diego. My sister cried when he died.
He, he runs off all the

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time and he usually comes back, but this time, um,
the time he died, he didn\'t come back for three

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days. So we went to, um, check out, um,
we went to try and find him. We found him

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near a clubhouse. Uh, two vultures,
and we found his body, nothing but

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bones and bugs on him, all over him.
Were you sad about him?

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Yeah. Did you cry? No. When\'s the last time
you cried? ...I\'d say about, uh, four years.

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Really? All right, this play
is called \"Use Your Noggin.\"

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Hi, I\'m Anthony, your good conscience. I hope
you know what the right thing is to do. Hi, I\'m

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David, your not so good conscience.
Tell you what to do

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Read the diary. Don\'t read the diary.
Read the diary. All right! I got it!

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I want to do what\'s right. I lost my diary.
Have you seen my

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diary? Wow! You found it! Thank you! Where\'d
you find it? On the ground. Thank you!

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Thank you so much! No problem. I\'m so happy
to have a friend like you. Oh, the bird

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story. So, I would say Payton was
probably about three and we were

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having brunch for Sunday at a
resort here locally. And he and

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I went outside to just pass the time. And

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he walked up to a pond. There
were some birds there, small

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sparrows. And he knelt down the way
little kids can kneel down, and he pet

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the bird. Do you remember that happening?
Yes. What, can you tell me the story?

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Yes, well, we were at brunch at the
Puentes Hotel, one of our favorite

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hotels and I\'d gone out
and I, um, pet a bird.

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Like this. Okay. But they\'re very easy to

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pet. If, but if only you, but you only
should use one finger, they\'re small.

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And you couldn\'t believe it watching it.
It wasn\'t afraid of me for the

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first parts, then it flew off. You
know like Mr. Rogers, Fred Rogers

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says, a lot of times you look back at times in your
life and you say, \"Oh, so, so that\'s what it was all

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about.\" Hey guy, I\'m gonna give you a tour of my house... Slow
down. I\'m gonna give you a tour of my house and I\'d like you

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guys to film it as we go...
I want to be a film

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director. Why? I don\'t know,
I think it\'s a cool job.

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What kind of knowledge do you think you have to have
for that? I don\'t know. The same amount you guys

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have in film directing?

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[sil.] Can we put a little
wireless mic on you so we can

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hear you better? Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, I
don\'t care. What have you been doing this morning,

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Peyton? Oh, waiting for you guys, yelling,
\"When are they gonna get here?\"...

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My house... You\'re gonna take this and
it\'s gonna go up through your shirt. Okay.

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So you, I\'ll hold your DS. Thank you...
I, guys? Are you ready for

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a, are you ready for a tour of the
house to start? We\'re starting here.

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Okay. I\'ll put this, I\'ll put my DS
in this pocket so I can give the tour

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clearly. So I can give the tour
clearly, this way. This is my

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room. Take all the film you want.
Film this...

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Get everything. Okay. That
should be enough film for

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here. This way. Well, hold on, Peyton.
We\'ve got some questions for ya.

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You do? Yeah. What kind of questions do you have?
Oh, I\'m sure Todd\'s got lots of questions for you.

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What kind of questions do you have for
me, guys? I know. So this is it, huh?

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This is your bedroom. Yep. And
that\'s my TV, HD. That\'s my

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computer with my desk. Windows. And, um,

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now I want you guys to follow me in the next room.
All right, come on, guys. This way. Up, up,

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up, up, up. Okay. Mark can go first. Okay,
Mark. Here I come. All right, I want the boom

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behind, I want, I want to hug the walls
and I want the boom behind. Good,

00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:59.999
good. Okay. That, now that way y-, now that way
they\'ll be, that way I\'ll be able to, I\'ll be able to

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catch all the sound right now. All right, guys,
this way. I think they challenges are finding

00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:09.999
ways to keep him interested, you know,
and engaged, because you have to be

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creative in your own right, right? And you have
to think of things differently. And one of

00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:19.999
the things that... Which is hard when you\'re exhausted.
Right! I mean... At the end of the day. Or the

00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:24.999
weekend when you want to
relax and, and all of a

00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:29.999
sudden they\'ve come out of this extremely
structured environment. What are you looking at out

00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:34.999
there? What do you see?
A bird right through

00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:39.999
that, I can see it. Is that what has your
attention right now? Okay. That\'s what

00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:44.999
I\'ve idented, see, right there in that plant
outside the window. I see... The nearest plant.

00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:49.999
I see, I see the bird out there, but you know what? Right now we are
in math, okay? How many different parts are there? You\'re going

00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:54.999
to have to count on this one. One,
two, three, four. Four? Four are

00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:59.999
shaded, but how many different
parts are there? Four...

00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:04.999
six? Well you have one whole part.
There\'s three whole parts. Okay...

00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:09.999
This part, this part, this part. So, um,
one, there is... Uh, uh. Yep. They\'re in

00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:14.999
each. That\'s a fraction. You\'re right.
That\'s the reduced fraction.

00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:19.999
Very good. It\'s that quiz in history.
I keep on getting like

00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:24.999
34 in it. And you have to
get like above an 80 or 80

00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:29.999
to pass. A quiz or test. So
that makes you sad? Ye-,

00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:34.999
I\'m angry. I, I can never past
any, I can never get, I can, I

00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:39.999
barely, I, I, I don\'t know, I, it\'s, it\'s too
hard for usually for me to get past a test or

00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:44.999
quiz. Not that much with tests, but
usually with a quiz. Still think it\'s

00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:49.999
that I\'m still kind of
angry, but, but don\'t

00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:54.999
worry. I\'m, I still feel fine. And, um,
guess what? I\'ve been wanting to be filmed

00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:59.999
again... All the four of us can
film my mother doing what she\'s

00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:04.999
normally doing. Oh. Yeah, and, and I\'ll
be with, I\'ll be working with you, Todd.

00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:09.999
You got it? Yeah! I\'ll hold onto it a
little bit. I feel like a real film crew!

00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:14.999
You look like one. That\'s really all
you need is a camera. Really?...Hey

00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:19.999
guys? I feel like a real film crew person! If
you know what I mean. If you could have that

00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:24.999
same enthusiasm for so many
aspects of your life: enthusiasm

00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:29.999
for making this movie... I\'m filming the
house! The enthusiasm for doing your job.

00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:34.999
We\'re, we\'re camera to camera! I mean, think
how much better the world would be. So it\'s

00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:39.999
always the balance of saying, you know,
um, \"I don\'t ever want to, I don\'t want

00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:44.999
him to lose that. Enthusiasm. When you
go into a doctor\'s office and you know

00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:49.999
something\'s wrong, you don\'t know
what it is, and you sit there and

00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:54.999
all of a sudden you hear, \"Well,
your child\'s autistic.\" Oh,

00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:59.999
God. Um, it\'s just, it\'s

00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:04.999
overwhelming. Now, for me, even though I\'m

00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:09.999
blubbering here it was a relief.
Because I knew something was wrong.

00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:14.999
Knowing, just now having a baby, that
that would be hard for a parent.

00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:19.999
Um, so even though they display all the
characteristics, they\'re doing well in a school that\'s

00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:24.999
focused on that, I think they still want
that hope that they\'re gonna be okay.

00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:29.999
Right. And that they\'re, they\'re gonna be typical and its just
something going on right now and they\'ll get over it. They\'ll outgrow

00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:34.999
it. And they\'ll be fine later.
And I, and I think that

00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:39.999
buying in and accepting the diagnosis?
Because once you\'re,

00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:44.999
you agree to being autistic, there\'s no

00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:49.999
cure. You\'re always autistic. And so
I think that they\'re fearful of the

00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:54.999
label following them wherever they go.
Mm-hm. It\'s gonna follow them into

00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:59.999
college, it\'s gonna follow them into the
workplace, it\'s gonna follow them when they\'re

00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:04.999
meeting wives or husbands,
potential, um, and I think

00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:09.999
that that\'s frightening. Mm-hm. It\'s your child.
You know, you have all these dreams for your

00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:14.999
child. You, child\'s gonna have a better
life than you had, you know... and then you

00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:19.999
find that out and that\'s the, it\'s like a
death sentence, you know what I mean? Then

00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:24.999
you\'re thinking about all the things that they\'re not, they\'re
not gonna get to do all these things that you had, all these

00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:29.999
dreams for, you know? I\'ll always a seven!
No. I think you might get an

00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:34.999
eight. Don\'t cry. All right, it\'s
just a game. Baby you\'re doing great.

00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:39.999
No, I\'m not. I can\'t, I\'ll make
seven, I got sevens in a r-,

00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:44.999
three in a row! Ashley, it\'s just a game,
okay? Come on. But I\'ll never win!

00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:49.999
Okay. Ashley! Ashley! Have you ever played
this before? Have you ever played it before?

00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:54.999
I don\'t know! You haven\'t, okay? This is
your first time. I\'ve played before. Okay?

00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:59.999
So it\'s not even fair. And I\'m older...
She\'s just, she\'s a

00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:04.999
perfectionist. And, um, she, um, wants
to be perfect. And, and she gets very

00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:09.999
frustrated when, when she\'s not. You know, she
thinks that she\'s invincible and that she can do

00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:14.999
anything. And when, you know, her body
is not cooperating with her mind,

00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:19.999
um, she, she, you know,
she cries, she has a

00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:24.999
meltdown, she, you know... How many
people live in your house? Okay...

00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:29.999
my dad, my mom, my little sister,

00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:34.999
and me. I think she\'s on her

00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:39.999
wheelies. Who is that?

00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:44.999
Alicia... What\'s she doing? She\'s just

00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:49.999
showing her stuff and her pet fish.
What\'s she like?

00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:54.999
My mom said she\'s spoiled. She\'s spoiled?
And that\'s her trophy, trophies that she

00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:59.999
got from cheer. Are you spoiled?

00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:04.999
I don\'t know. My grandma
tells me that my mom spoils

00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:09.999
me. A little. You know what really helped me was actually,
and I don\'t know if this sounds terrible or not, but it was

00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:14.999
having the second child.
Because then I didn\'t,

00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:19.999
um, pin all my hopes and dreams on Ash.
It really helped me to let go and,

00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:24.999
realize that, you know, who cares if she has a disability.
You know, she\'s not gonna be able to do a lot of things,

00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:29.999
but you know, um, she, you know...

00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:34.999
I don\'t know,

00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:39.999
sh- ... Who\'s that? That\'s my mom.

00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:44.999
[sil.] What\'s your mom like?

00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:49.999
Uh...

00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:54.999
I can\'t describe it. Okay. Um,
what does she like to do?

00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.999
[sil.]

00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.999
I know she likes to shop. What

00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:13.000
exactly does it mean to
have autism or Aspergers?

00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:19.999
I\'m, I kinda don\'t know.

00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:24.999
Terry! Terry don\'t!

00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:29.999
Let me get over here. Yes, you are. Thank you for noticing.
I\'d be waiting in the pickup line with all the other

00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:34.999
parents at the public school... You now,
that\'s not very nice. What?...And, um, see

00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:39.999
all the kids walking... How\'s that? Huh?...
Then I\'d see my daughter and she\'d

00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:44.999
bounce in and it was, it
just, she, it would break my

00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:49.999
heart. She just stuck out like a sore thumb. I mean, she
really did. You know, I, there was not hiding that there was

00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:54.999
something a little off, you know? And then
I remember at Gateway, I looked around

00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:59.999
and, she would have some characteristics,
uh, or all the kids would

00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:04.999
have, you know, like one of the things, you know, like this kid
does this like she does, and this kid does this like Ashley does

00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:09.999
and she just fit in!...How many was that? Uh, I think it
was a 10. She didn\'t stand out. She didn\'t stand out at

00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:14.999
all. Whew! Ace got two!> Thank you.
She belonged there. Whew hew!

00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:19.999
Who\'s your best friend there? Is it Ashley? Yeah.
Yeah? What do you guys do, I mean for fun?

00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:24.999
Well, she m-, she likes
to make up songs. I just

00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:29.999
wonder if you\'re able to have a conversation
without bringing... How about the Christmas song?

00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:34.999
No, not the Christmas song. This is my favorite
picture of me when I was little. This is your

00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:39.999
favorite picture? Why?
Because I like me when

00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.999
I was little... Then here\'s
me and Ash... I\'m not

00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.999
good at making friends. Probably this
picture gets me motivated to get

00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:54.999
out of bed so I could like see her when I get
to school. \'Cause sometimes I don\'t want to

00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:59.999
go to school. And what does this mean, this dark
feeling part? Oh, that\'s when I just get upset

00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:04.999
or mad, or suicidal, but
that\'s not important.

00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:09.999
Oh, that\'s not important? Not right now,
\'cause I don\'t feel that way anymore.

00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:14.999
She really has a hard time socially. She
has one really good friend at school,

00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:19.999
Ash, a new girl that came. She
had a boyfriend for a long time,

00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:24.999
until he, I don\'t know what happened,
but they had a split \'em up. So

00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:29.999
she goes through feelings of \"No one at
school likes me, I wanna leave.\" And then

00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:34.999
everything\'s okay and she wants to stay. Do I have
to bring in a chair? No, just come on in. Just

00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:39.999
stand. we\'re just gonna do a little talky talk... No,
we\'re all just gonna stand... So, we\'re going to

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:44.999
restructure our contact classes, okay?

00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:49.999
And, if you wanna give us some feedback, you\'re
welcome to. Basically you\'re having the exact

00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:54.999
same classes you have everyday, it\'s just you
get to change which ones you start with.

00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:59.999
Adam teaches math and history. And Bennet

00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:04.999
teaches science and language arts.

00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:09.999
Which is your favorite subject? I think
science. What do you like about science?

00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:14.999
Well we get to try out experiments.
Who exactly wanted to change this

00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.999
really? And I know that change
sometimes can be scary. Change can be

00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:24.999
different. But sometimes
change can be really good.

00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:29.999
I see a glum look. Or, what do
you, what do you feel, Ashley?

00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:34.999
I don\'t like it. You don\'t like it?
That\'s okay. We\'ll get used to it.

00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:39.999
Well, thanks Will. Sorry.
Um, what don\'t you like

00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:44.999
particularly? I just don\'t like it at all. Is it
just the change? Is it you don\'t want to start

00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:49.999
with Language? No. I just, I
like it the way it is now.

00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:54.999
Okay. You\'re just more comfortable?
Yeah. Okay.

00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:59.999
Do you think this is something that could
maybe grow on you and become positive? No.

00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.999
No? You don\'t think that\'s possible?
No. Okay.

00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:09.999
Awhile back in school you got really upset
when they changed the schedule. Yeah. I

00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.999
don\'t like big changes like that.

00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.999
Ashley, why don\'t you come with me real quick. No! \'Cause I want
to talk to, we\'re gonna go talk with Miss Dena \'cause... No!...

00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:24.999
I just don\'t wanna do it. Mm-hm.
Wouldn\'t it be better if you

00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:29.999
could, we could understand it together?
Doesn\'t matter. I still wouldn\'t like it.

00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:34.999
We have peace rooms. It\'s a
place to find peace. And,

00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:39.999
um, We have... so the first thing that I do if a
kid melts down is make sure they, we can, I can

00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.999
get them to that space... Okay, what else is going
on in that group that\'s that\'s troubling you today?

00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:49.999
I just don\'t like it. But I also know that with anybody, if
they\'re going through a hard moment, um, whether they\'re

00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:54.999
melting down because they\'re frustrated or they\'re angry, they\'re
whatever, having someone talk in their face right away is

00:30:55.000 --> 00:31:03.000
not gonna help. So the first thing that I always do
is give them space... I liked it the way it was.

00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:09.999
Did you get over that change? Yeah.

00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:14.999
I run away sometimes \'cause I get really

00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:19.999
ticked off at my parents... It just got a
TV and little chairs... But I don\'t do that

00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:24.999
anymore. I\'ve found other ways...

00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:29.999
Agh! It\'s cold in here! Ashley can\'t
deal with stress very well, so

00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.999
she would run away. If she
didn\'t like when we said

00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:39.999
no to her she\'d actually run away.
And so we had to

00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:44.999
figure out someplace where she could
go that was safe and not run out the

00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:49.999
front door. It\'s like a
peace room to me and my

00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:54.999
sister, a room where I can
get away from my anger.

00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:59.999
\'Cause sometimes I get really mad.

00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.999
And the way to, something that helps
with your anger is to build a tiny room?

00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:09.999
Yeah. I think socially she\'ll
probably find people like her.

00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:14.999
And there\'s my mom. She\'s a nice person...
Um, she\'ll find a

00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.999
niche. She\'s, wants to be an actress now.
Hi, Mom! Happy

00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:24.999
Mother\'s Day! And a singer.
Romeo, Romeo, art

00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:29.999
thou Romeo? But soft, what
light through yonder breaks

00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:34.999
wind? It is the East and Juliet is the sun.
Her voice, so

00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.999
sweet that birds would
sing and know it is not

00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:44.999
night. And stuff like that. Wow! You pulled
that up pretty quickly. That\'s impressive.

00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:53.000
Yeah. I, I don\'t remember the part about
breaking wind. That was on Hannah Montana. Oh!

00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:59.999
Okay. I just add stuff like that in.

00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:04.999
How many of you guys have been expelled
from schools? Oh, I\'ve so been

00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:09.999
suspended! Yeah. Bailey?
It\'s fun to mention, though.

00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.999
Well, I got, I wasn\'t expelled at schools.

00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.999
I, I, I, I really got
expelled from a, a lot

00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.999
of summer camps. Okay. You
can\'t ask why By like, like

00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.999
five times. I got expelled by five schools.
That\'s okay. And Braden? I got

00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.999
suspended once. Nathan?

00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:39.999
Huh? Are you listening? Were
you listening before? Yeah,

00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.999
I\'ll tell you, yeah. Okay, so
were you suspended or expelled?

00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.999
Expelled. I was expelled before.
Once. Jacob?

00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:54.999
Expelled. It\'s okay, Jacob. Peyton?

00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:59.999
S-, Suspended. Alec? Detention.

00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:04.999
It\'s not worse, it\'s not that
worser than getting expelled. Yeah.

00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.999
Do you resent... What\'s resent? It means

00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.999
like, you hold it against people, does it make you upset
when people say that you have Asperger\'s Syndrome and you\'re

00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:19.999
like this? It just makes me feel,

00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:24.999
\"fffff,\" like that. I don\'t believe that.
Just makes

00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:29.999
me feel like, you\'re
entitled to your opinion,

00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.999
because I personally d-, believe
that we\'re just like everyone

00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:39.999
else. No matter what people
say, I still think that.

00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:44.999
Though I do have problems understanding.
That\'s one thing. So I don\'t quite

00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.999
understand. Okay. Mm. You know,

00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:54.999
uh, if we can back up a little bit, Charles,
when he was in public school, we had a

00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:59.999
hard time with him. His frustration, we didn\'t know what
it was. We didn\'t, and, uh, uh, he wasn\'t on a whole lotta

00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.999
medication for anything at the time for anything, and so,
hadn\'t been totally diagnosed, so he w-, he was very,

00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:09.999
uh, irritable, uh, combative,
not only at home, but at

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.999
school. He didn\'t know how to play with kids. That includes
celery with peanut butter. I love celery with peanut butter! You

00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.999
can\'t get rid of that! Or cauliflower...
His social skills were so

00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.999
low. I mean, it was just tremendously low, it was,
I mean, say things inappropriate, not know what\'s

00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:29.999
facial expressions, and, I mean, he\'s always
wanted friends, but he just didn\'t know how to

00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:34.999
make \'em or maintain \'em or didn\'t really know when people
even liked him. Charles, if you can finish that part

00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:39.999
right there. We were out here one, one night
playing soccer and, uh... Oh, that\'s right!

00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.999
He, about halfway through he, he started off in, in the
bushes, you know, and looking for bugs and everything

00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.999
and, \"Hey! This is a so-and-so bug!\" and so I had
to him a-, come over, or bring the bugs over.\"

00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:54.999
Yeah. And, uh, tell all the other kids
about \'em. So. He\'s got, yeah, definitely

00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.999
leadership abilities there, you know? Well, I
like, I love bugs, a whole lot. I don\'t know

00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:04.999
why, I just do. I think it\'s
like all of the colors they

00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:09.999
have and spots... Took a picture
of a spider we caught... And

00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.999
shapes. My main intentions for when I grow
up is to become an entomologist and get a

00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:19.999
TV show. What do you think you\'d name it?
Bug Files.

00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.999
That\'s it! Bug Files! Then show pictures,

00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:29.999
flashes of me talking. With no audio.
Just a little bit of comedy

00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.999
and a lot of education.
Who would the show be

00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:39.999
aimed at? The insects, exactly.

00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.999
You\'d be making a show for insects?
Well, exa-, well it\'ll be for people.

00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:49.999
Would there be a set or would
you just be out in the wild?

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.999
Um, I would bring around a net with

00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:59.999
me and wear a hat and I would go

00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:04.999
driving around in a vehicle filled
with jars like crazy. With holes

00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:09.999
in \'em, of course... Have you
ever seen a stink bug? They

00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.999
are like that except their much thinner and
longer and they\'re black and they have a

00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.999
little red lining going around them.
And they have black eyes and a

00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:24.999
long piercing mouth part for sucking blood.
And then they have lo-,

00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:29.999
black, red linings go around the top of
their abdomen. And little wings, clear

00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.999
wings on the top of them. I don\'t know if you\'ve
ever saw the show Andy Griffin. I\'m sure you

00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:39.999
have. I always hoped to have a son, you know
you\'re gonna be Andy, and he\'s gonna be Opie.

00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:44.999
Well, I used to watch that show so much
growing up that um, Charles\', we named

00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.999
Charles\' middle name is Andrew after
Andy Taylor. And, uh, but you

00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:54.999
know what? Our relationship didn\'t
turn out quite that easy. You know,

00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:59.999
uh, it just has not turned out that way.
Charles is, when he\'d come home, he\'d

00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:04.999
be very disrespectful to me. And
me being an easy going person,

00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:09.999
uh, sometimes I think has not
been good for him. Because,

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:18.000
what ha-, what I\'ve found not just with him, but some other
children, they need structure. The idea is to make it as

00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:24.999
easy as possible for them.

00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:29.999
[sil.] Oh! Yes? A foot.

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.999
Huh? It\'s a, it looks like a foot!
Just... Exactly. Okay.

00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:39.999
What kind of a foot? Oh!
What Athlete\'s foot?

00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:44.999
No! Ankle? No. Come on! I gave you clues!
Broken foot?

00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:53.000
I gave you clues! Heel? Then what the heck is it? Achilles heel. Nope. No. No,
you\'re way off. Sometimes, when you\'re trying to get information across to someone,

00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:59.999
all right, and they\'re not getting it,
you get exactly what happened. You get

00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.999
frustrated. Sometimes, you may
have to repeat the message. That

00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:09.999
means start over. But if that\'s
the only words you have is

00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.999
that, slow down, repeat it again.
All right?

00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.999
Sometimes, that\'s what we have to do when we communicate
to people is step back. \'Cause it\'s not about

00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:24.999
us. It\'s not about our frustration.
We have all those people in front of

00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:29.999
us, okay, who need to get the message. So we
have to figure out how are we gonna reach

00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.999
them. Okay? All right. Uh, Nikolai?
Give me a good one... Other

00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:43.000
than that. You\'re getting that one

00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:49.999
Can I use multiple colors? You can erase the
foot. Can I, I\'m gonna use multiple colors.

00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:54.999
Permission? Remember it\'s not about you. It\'s
about the audience. Is that gonna help convey the

00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:59.999
message? Or is it for your own gratification?
What\'s gratification? For my own, um, personal use?

00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.999
But that\'s not why we\'re here, right? Turn around, look at
those people. For my own pleasure, you mean? No? No, you\'re

00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.999
not here for you. You\'re here for them.
Hey, he (inaudible)

00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:09.999
Okay. So it has to be for them.
Well I have to get my message

00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:14.999
across, yeah? If it\'ll help get your
message across, yes. Okay, fine.

00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:19.999
[sil.]

00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:24.999
Remember to stay to the right.

00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:33.000
[sil.] Ooh! Robert was
the first one with his

00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:39.999
hand up. Burger! Close. Bun! Not burger.
You only get one... Pen! Shh!

00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:44.999
One try. Charlie was the
second one with his hand up.

00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.999
Um, spaceship.

00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:54.999
[sil.] Oh! What? Scott. Cheese. Close. Hm?

00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:59.999
Oh! Raise the hands. Alex? Cheese burger.
Cheese burger.

00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:04.999
Good. All right. I founded the
school because, uh, when we

00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:09.999
moved to California, I have a
15 year-old son with Asperger\'s

00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.999
Syndrome and I could not find
an appropriate educational

00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:23.000
environment that could handle his
academics and social needs. Okay, let\'s

00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:29.999
say I can\'t tell that you have Asperger\'s

00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.999
Syndrome. I can\'t tell. Right.
I don\'t know you that

00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:39.999
well. I\'m just a guy with a camera. You
seem to be able to understand sarcasm and

00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:44.999
humor. You seem to understand emotion. You
have a highly developed vocabulary, but

00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:49.999
you don\'t seem to have difficulty using language.
You don\'t seem to have difficulties with

00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:54.999
executive functioning, what they call planning, and
organizing, and integration of thinking, and you don\'t

00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:59.999
seem to have trouble understanding
cause and effect. So...

00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:04.999
I understand what I do and what happens
from it. And I still do it. So

00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:09.999
do you believe this diagnosis that
you have Asperger\'s Syndrome?

00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:18.000
I have to. I\'m not the one with the PhD. Well how would you prove it
to me, then? By my actions. If you were to observe me on an everyday

00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:24.999
basis for one week, even just an
hour a day, you\'d probably be

00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:29.999
able to diagnose just the little
things that you see. Add all that up.

00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.999
Okay. Tell me what the little things are.
Every now and then I might get into an

00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:39.999
argument with my parents and then just storm
out of the room because I don\'t want to

00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.999
have to, uh, let\'s see, explain myself.

00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.999
I do that do. I don\'t have Asperger\'s.
Try something else. Dang. I sometimes

00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.999
am, no that wouldn\'t work. Everyone\'s
been that before. Politically

00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:59.999
incorrect. Yeah. I say I know
about things that I don\'t

00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:04.999
know about. I do that too. Uh-uh.

00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:09.999
Dang! Do you feel like going
to the school that you go to

00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:14.999
helps you... Yeah... mask those things?

00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:19.999
Is that a good thing or a bad
thing first of all? You tell me.

00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:24.999
If I can appear that I don\'t
have that, or if I can

00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:29.999
function in a normal society
without it, yeah. If I can make

00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:34.999
friends on, uh, in, out in
public, communicate, keep a

00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:39.999
conversation, yeah. But

00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:44.999
yeah, I\'d prefer to be a musician than
I would, you know, to be some kind of

00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.999
computer genius or something.
Have you ever played in a band?

00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:54.999
Um, yes, I have. A couple of my
friends can play instruments,

00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:59.999
so yeah, we kind of got together
and just fooled around a bit.

00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:04.999
A dysfunctional family that you
choose to be in. You know, that\'s the

00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:09.999
definition of \'band\' for me. I
would call my ADD \"Another Damned

00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.999
Disappointment.\"

00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.999
[music] And what kind of
stuff are you writing? Oh,

00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:24.999
just, you just put in sounds and you know, it\'s
like what you do when you\'re a DJ, you know,

00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:29.999
you just do the beats, cross-fading,
that kind of stuff. He is a b-,

00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.999
he\'s brilliant on computers. Why do
you keep hacking into the school\'s

00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:39.999
computer system? Just to see what I\'m capable of.
Dena AltWe have to change our administrative password

00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:44.999
often because he breaks the code every
time. How he does it, I don\'t know. Our IT

00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.999
person who\'s also brilliant, can\'t figure out how he\'s
figuring it out, and of course Nikolai won\'t tell you. He

00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:54.999
says, \"If I tell you, you\'ll know and then I can\'t do
it anymore. Have you hacked into anywhere else besides

00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:59.999
school? Yeah. Couple websites. Didn\'t do anything.
I just wanted to see how good their, you

00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.999
know, thing was set up. How
do you know how to do that?

00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:09.999
I\'m not actually positive on how I know. I

00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:14.999
just, follow instructions that people put in
forums on how to do these kind of things.

00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:19.999
Did you find out how to do this from the internet? Yeah.
From people who already know how. I don\'t know how you

00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:24.999
learn from, you know, nothing, but yeah.
He breaks the code so he can

00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:29.999
download cool stuff from the internet. The
stuff he even finds and gets a hold of on the

00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:34.999
internet, just amaze all of us,
how\'d you find that? He\'s, he\'s

00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:39.999
brilliant when it comes to computers so what we\'re
really working on with him is keeping things

00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:44.999
on a positive. Like using
his talents for good. Um,

00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:49.999
my fear for Nikolai is if we don\'t keep steering
him to the good that he will go to the dark

00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:54.999
side because it is interesting. It\'s a challenge. For him
it\'s the challenge of can I crack the code, can I, can I

00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:59.999
open this, can I get into this? And so my
fear is that he\'ll get into places that will

00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:04.999
bring him much danger, or consequences.
Have you discovered

00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:09.999
anything on your own that you can do
that you didn\'t know you could do?

00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.999
Um, like what?

00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.999
Nikolai doesn\'t, doesn\'t see authority.
He thinks that he is an

00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:24.999
adult, and expects other
people to treat him as such.

00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:29.999
Even at five years old. I prefer to hang
out with people outside of my school.

00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:34.999
Just because that way I can get
a real handle on, you know, the

00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:39.999
outside world for once. People
who are older than me, such as

00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:44.999
18-, 19-, 20-year-olds who actually
have something in common with

00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.999
me. That\'s the only reason I hang out with them. \'Cause
it actually gives me a handle on what I actually should

00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:54.999
be doing. I feel like I can
socialize with them better

00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:59.999
than people my own age. Complying
was a problem. It was either his

00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.999
way or no way. And so,
so, we could see pretty

00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:09.999
quickly that he was having issues. List
some bad things and I\'ll say yes or

00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:14.999
no, I don\'t likes, and then, or, if you come
close to it, I\'ll tell you what it was.

00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:19.999
Okay... Beating somebody up.

00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:24.999
Yes... Um... Calling somebody names.

00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:29.999
Yes. Taking things from other people
that weren\'t yours. Yes. I\'m not

00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:34.999
proud of that. I\'m just saying,
\'cause it\'s going on a roll here.

00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:39.999
Uh, said something to somebody that
you felt bad about later. Oh, my

00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:44.999
God, yes. As long as he
stays in, stays in the

00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:49.999
light. That\'s a huge danger with Nikolai. What
is s huge danger with Nikolai? Um, going to the

00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:54.999
dark side. Anything else? No, man.
You can go back. Oh,

00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:59.999
great. I need to finish my math.
I\'m behind.

00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:04.999
Yeah. But it\'s okay, man. Yeah, I\'ve got Do whatever you
want. If it doesn\'t fit with the tone of the movie, we

00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:09.999
don\'t know what the tone of the movie is. Okey doke.
I\'m just, you, I\'m just to spout random stuff,

00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:14.999
right? Well... \'Cause I also have ADD so
I\'d c-, you be making a documentary for

00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.999
ADD also. Extreme case of ADD, actually.
I notice that a lot more than my autism.

00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:24.999
Really? Yeah, especially
academically, I mean, I can\'t

00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:29.999
help but just flash out and start thinking.
I just don\'t even realize

00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:34.999
it. I always miss something in conversation.
That\'s how I think. I think in

00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:39.999
concepts. Like, I don\'t think in words or
pictures, like most people. I think in those pure

00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:44.999
concepts. So that\'s why I get, I get
the, when I go into a speech, I

00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:49.999
have a, I think I have what I want to
say prepared, but I have the concept

00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:54.999
prepared and not the words so it stutters, it
just stutters out. ADD I would love to get rid

00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:59.999
of, okay? That\'s one thing I,
well, uh, well there\'s some

00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:04.999
things ADD seems to provide me, I mean, uh, I see
random things and random stuff in br-, and some

00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:09.999
inspiration, but overall, ADD is more, I,
I\'d rather not have my ADD. That\'s the

00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:14.999
problem. My high, high-functioning autism, I
still don\'t get people why people are like, \"A

00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:19.999
cure for autism!\" Like,
that\'s the source of my

00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:24.999
genius! The way I think, the different
way of thinking, you know? It\'s not

00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:29.999
any problem. I see the world in a very,

00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.999
very different light. Almost
more inward thinker, you

00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:39.999
know? And that, therefore,
I have somewhat a hard

00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:44.999
time with... with, uh, society, you

00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.999
know? Uh, because I think well, I,

00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:54.999
I don\'t see what\'s wrong with this, so why should
anyone else see, of course you know that\'s a really

00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:59.999
stupid way of thinking, but, well I\'m
not sure about stupid, but, just really

00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.999
stupid to say, \"Okay, well I don\'t see what\'s wrong with it,
why does anybody else see it\'s wrong with it. Like, of course,

00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:09.999
that\'s, that\'s not how society works!
I think that\'s all, you know?

00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:14.999
That\'s what I fear. I fear other people.
The judgment, you know, making the right

00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:19.999
calls. You know, the impulsivity. You know,
you tell him not to do it. It\'s almost

00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:24.999
worse to tell him not to do it. Because he may
very well do it, and then it\'s, it\'s like an

00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:29.999
impulse. He can\'t, you know, \"Okay, I can\'t do it!
I can\'t do it! I can\'t do it.\" And then it just

00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:34.999
comes out, keeps coming out, keeps coming out. It\'s like a
red flag in front of a bull. Mm-hm. It\'s just, \"Oh, I can\'t

00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:39.999
do this, but, you know, I need to do this.

00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:44.999
And, and that, that, that\'s what frightens
me. You know, like, you know, arguing with a

00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.999
policeman if he gets pulled over, that kind
of thing. You know. There\'s very little

00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:54.999
forgiveness, you know, in certain areas of
life. There\'s not a lot of margin of grace.

00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:59.999
Yeah... Yes, I\'m a little

00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:04.999
collection of all sorts of problems:
scoliosis, Marfan\'s Syndrome...

00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:09.999
En garde. High functioning autism,
ADD, um, let\'s see if I can think of

00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:14.999
another one. One of the amazing things to

00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:19.999
watch Chris is he will
wake up most mornings his

00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:24.999
back hurts him, he\'ll often have a
headache... Five all. You know, he

00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:29.999
can\'t walk more than several
blocks without needing to

00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.999
stop, and yet he never complains.
He\'s happy, he goes through his

00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:39.999
day. But as his parents, to
watch him dealing with these

00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:44.999
issues, that I would be
miserable dealing with. Oh!

00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:49.999
Did I get you? It\'s incredible. Yeah. To see what
he puts up with on a day-to-day basis. And he\'s

00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:54.999
aware of it. He knows everything that\'s happening to
him. Let\'s just see if anything happens. Okay. And yet

00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:59.999
he deals with it with a sense of
humor and with, with, uh, a joy of

00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:04.999
living. Hm. Uh, that I wish I had.

00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:09.999
Everyone\'s favorite, uh, Insomniaville,
you know, all the, all the stuff we

00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:14.999
didn\'t bring up yet. Chris is just
very interesting to me, so thinking

00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:19.999
of it as, uh, technical or medical? I don\'t
know much about Chris. He has a great sense

00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:24.999
of humor. The Tangle of Death. You know,
I\'ve never got how a tangle happens, you

00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:29.999
know? Uh, I know by logic, you leave a whole bunch
of wires around, you, you know it\'s gonna get

00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.999
tangled, but how does the
wires, when, when you drop

00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:39.999
\'em down there, they\'re not tangled when you drop \'em down. Now how
do the wires magically seem to go into each other in such intricate

00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:44.999
patterns to get tangled? I mean,
it just doesn\'t make sense. And,

00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:49.999
uh, cool. It\'s not. I mean, soon as you

00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:54.999
put these things on, the hour you need, as soon as you put these
things on you\'re not cool anymore, you know? I mean, it\'s

00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:59.999
not even the fact that it says cool. It\'s the u-, this thing,
these things are the ultimate irony. I mean, I don\'t, do

00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.999
I, that says \"cool,\" and yet I\'m not
cool anymore, you know? You see?

00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:09.999
Uh, um, whole lot of trophies I got simply for
participating, so don\'t think of anything,

00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:14.999
of anything special there. I sucked. They gave me a
trophy just for being there. You know, the whole

00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:19.999
equality thing. The autistic thing, e-,

00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:24.999
equality! You know? That\'s, that\'s what\'s always gotten me about
special ed schools, you know? Like everyone has to be equal. There\'s

00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:29.999
no competition allowed. It\'s like, I want
to be competitive. I want to see, it\'s

00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:34.999
like if I lose, okay, fine. I lose,
but if I win, yay. I, I like being

00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:39.999
competitive, you know? We have challenged him more this year
than I think he\'s been challenged in a long time. And what we

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challenge him on is his own personal
philosophies and his own thought

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processes. Um, he thinks
if he reads it, it\'s

00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:54.999
fact. Period. I like escaping
into my little world in my

00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:59.999
mind, creating new worlds,
and video games. I\'m a major

00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:04.999
gamer. Major league video gamer, okay?
Just, that\'s the central

00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:09.999
part of my life. You know? It\'s
not a hobby, people! What I do? I

00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:14.999
read. Yes, I\'m capable of reading. It, it\'s
amazing, yes it\'s an amazing concept, but

00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:19.999
most video gamers are actually very
well educated and usually read a lot.

00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:24.999
Yes, it\'s quite common.
He obsesses in fantasy,

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and, and, uh, sort of science
fiction, physics gone science

00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:34.999
fiction, you know, and, uh, um,
um, storytelling. He, he loves

00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:39.999
it. He just, he just loves it.
There\'s so many cool things in

00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:44.999
video games, so, I, I, I can\'t
count them, but, discovering a

00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:49.999
cool new game, you know? And
of course, beating the game...

00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:54.999
Seeing the credits roll like
you finished a movie, you

00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:59.999
know? It\'s quite, quite a a rel-, um, quite a great
experience, you know? Most space, space battles

00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.999
anywhere when you see \'em are like, in space, are two
dimensional, you\'re in groups that are, like, going

00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:09.999
straight at each other like this. They might be up and down,
or something like that, but they\'re still in the like,

00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:14.999
one dimension, like a flat plate.
You know, like you expect seeing

00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.999
airships in the air, like, you maybe going
like this, but always going back a certain

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direction, but really, space battle would be more like this, you
know? A space battle where you could go in any direction, not

00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:29.999
just going down, you know, or straight.
But like, have the guy coming

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up, underneath, all, every direction.
And truly 3-D. I can just go

00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:39.999
like, \"phs!\" He\'s, he\'s got the most
vivid imagination of anybody I have ever

00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:44.999
met. Uh, he loves science
fiction and he writes for

00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:49.999
a, a website, that, you know, highlights
science fiction written by its

00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:54.999
members. You know, and he\'s written
several chapters for them. You

00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:59.999
know, and it\'s somewhat brilliant stuff.

00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:04.999
Isaac Asimov was wrong, uh. He\'s
expected that robots be around

00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:09.999
already, walking around, creating,
uh, philosophical issues by right

00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:14.999
now. According to him, they, we should already have robots
roam-, running around, but we don\'t. We\'ve got some

00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:19.999
toys. You\'re, they\'re paying couple million
dollars to make a robot that walks up

00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:24.999
stairs. Seriously. That\'s how
complicated motor functions are. Yeah,

00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:29.999
and also trying to make a robot see is much
harder than you think. You can\'t just throw on

00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:34.999
spider legs or human legs or anything like that. People think
it\'s much more easier, so easy. People think that some

00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:39.999
genius kid is in their basement right
now creating a robotic army, um, of,

00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:44.999
of a hobby! Uh, it just
doesn\'t work like that.

00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:49.999
[sil.] Testing one, two,

00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:54.999
three. Testing.

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[music] Unbelievable. I got
some good film. You really

00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:04.999
did. I mean, you\'re a really good
photographer. I do make a good filmmaker,

00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:09.999
don\'t I? You really do.

00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:14.999
[sil.] Eric, what kind of distance
you got on this shot right here?

00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:19.999
199. What club are you using?

00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:24.999
Three-wood. And I, usu-, usually call

00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:29.999
it Cleveland. You usually call
what Cleveland? This club.

00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:34.999
Cleveland. Why? Because,
\'cause, that\'s what,

00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:43.000
that\'s what, that\'s what it says right
here. Three or four weeks ago, you said,

00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:49.999
\"Dad, I want to do karate again.\" I
was like, \"Okay, anything except for

00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:54.999
video games, I\'m into it!\"
So you did that, right?

00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:59.999
Yep. I don\'t think I\'ve seen that one.
There you

00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:04.999
go. So that\'s the, that\'s that... When he was born,
it was, you know, he\'s gonna play soccer, or

00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:09.999
lacrosse, or football, or basketball. And he\'s gonna go to
school, and he\'s gonna get all A\'s and B\'s and gonna go

00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:14.999
off to college and gonna marry some woman and
have this great family, and, all of a sudden, you

00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:19.999
know, it\'s like, ph! Who cares about
any of that stuff. I want him to

00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:24.999
eat, go to school period, right? Not hurt

00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:29.999
somebody and stay out of jail.
Good. Okay, here we go. One,

00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:34.999
sha! Two, sha! Three, sha! Four, sha!
Five, sha! Six, sha! Seven,

00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:39.999
sha! Eight, sha! Nine, sha! I think he\'ll do fine.
I don\'t know if he\'ll go to college, but he might.

00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:44.999
I think he could. Um, I think it\'ll
be up to him. For however long this

00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:49.999
earth is still going to be here,
I\'m on it for, to probably do

00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:54.999
something with my life. Hopefully, you
change the world in some positive way.

00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:59.999
I know my purpose in life. But
you won\'t tell me what it is.

00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:04.999
At least not right now. Why not?

00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:09.999
[sil.] Because I think

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I\'ll have a very big, um, impact upon the world. [0059:15]And you don\'t want me to know about
that ahead of time. [0059:20]It would ruin the surprise. Highly functioning autistics shall rule!

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[music]