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(airy pan flute sounds)

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(dark enchanting
music progression)

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(laughter)

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- Do you girls remember
when your girlfriends would come

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to our house in Flatrock
when you were tiny,

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when you were in kindergarten?

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And the parents would--

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- Would come
at the end of the day
to pick up their kids--

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- Or drop off the kids--
- And they\'d be totally
horrified.

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- And would be, not horrified,
but shocked or surprised or...
\"What is this house?\"

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Because the house was full
with Daddy\'s sculptures,
with my paintings--

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- Dead bodies and...
and explicit sexuality,

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and vaginas hanging on the walls
and, yes, by... yeah!

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- Just going up the stairs,
that white plaster
type of sculpture

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that was just on the wall.

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- That I tried to climb?
- That you tried to climb
as a kid.

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That kind of looked
like a vagina.

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- No, that was my bum, Iliyana.
- That was your bum?
- No, it was a spinal cord.

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- A spine
that was finished with...
- It was a spine.

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- Now, don\'t look! Ah-ah!
- I just... No, it was a second!

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- This one\'s cheating.

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- Mom is not gonna like
part of this.

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- I\'m done.
(laughter)

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- It\'s just why does this part
have so much detail,

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and she has a huge,
gaping chin?

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(laughter)

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- That\'s excellent!
- Oh...

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- This is... this is so good.
- Okay, you go next.
- What am I doing?

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(laughter)

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- That\'s actually wicked!
(laughter)

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- This is pretty damn good,
Iliyana!
- Oh, I love it!

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- Me and you were way better
than Mom and Dad.

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- Tell me about it.

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- Cheers!
- To the future.

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- To this Christmas,
to this apartment,

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to this life
that we have together,
and we still have each other.

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- To Toronto, Canada, Bulgaria.
- Love you.

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- Love you.
- Life in general.

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(crowd): Demokratsiya!

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Demokratsiya!

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Demokratsiya!

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Demokratsiya!

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Demokratsiya!

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Demokratsiya!

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Demokratsiya!

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Demokratsiya!

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Demokratsiya!

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(cheering)

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(crowd chanting)

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- Through the grapevine.

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(dark, mysterious music)

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♪♪

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(uplifting fiddle music)

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It certainly took me a while
to feel a Newfoundlander.

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I was confused.
I didn\'t know where I belonged.

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It\'s a... it\'s a cold, strange,
windy place.
I don\'t speak the language.

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Just impressions, yes,

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impressions in colours.

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Yeah.

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I was waiting day after day
after day for the wind to stop.

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And all of a sudden,
I realized I have to...

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become one with the wind
and start loving it.

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Absolutely, it worked.

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I would go out and...

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\"Ah, wind! I love you.\"

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- Whoo!

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(laughter)

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- That was fast!
That was so fast!

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- Okay, can you carry the saw
without injuring yourselves?

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- Can you carry the tree
without injuring yourself?

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- I\'ll carry the tree.
- Okay.

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- Let\'s go that way.
- Okay. Whoo-hoo-hoo!

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(indistinct chatter)

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(singing in Bulgarian)

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(calming piano music)

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(birdsong)

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- I was introduced to this tall,
kind of grim-looking fellow.

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And he said, you know,
\"I\'m a sculptor,

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and I like to work in bronze.

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And I can\'t work in bronze,
because I don\'t have a foundry.\"

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I said, \"Well,
let\'s build a foundry.\"

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Luben said,
\"Don\'t be so stupid, John.
You can\'t build a foundry.\"

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- \"That\'s impossible!\"
- That was the...

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that was the moment
that I decided: Okay,

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this is gonna be done;
nothing will stop me.

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Because I was interested
in the environment,

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and you were interested
in sculpture,

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we tried to create a...
a foundry

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which could serve your needs

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in terms of melting bronze

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and serve my needs in terms

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of not creating a lot of waste
and smoke and pollution.

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- Okay.

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Up, up.

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I think we built

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maybe the only
environmentally friendly foundry
in the world,

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and we invented techniques
of casting grasses

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and all kinds
of innovative things,

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I mean, in technical terms.

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- Yeah.

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- I will never forget
my first public commission
in Newfoundland,

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in the small town
of St. Lawrence,

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a community
full of personal tragedies,

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due to the poor working
conditions in the mines.

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- In 1942,

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two U.S. warships went aground

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off the coast of Newfoundland
in a ferocious winter storm,

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and the men of St. Lawrence

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and the neighbouring community
of Lawn

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heroically saved
186 U.S. seamen.

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However, many others were lost
in this horrible tragedy.

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- When you look at artwork,

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the very top of the line
is bronze sculpture.

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It lasts forever.

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And the sculpture that was here

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before Luben came

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had been sort of dumped
on Newfoundland from...

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from Britain,
and it... it wasn\'t...

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...uh... related--

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- Of this place.
Yes, absolutely.

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- Of this place, yeah.
- Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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- The people of Newfoundland
embraced us full-heartedly...

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...with the most amazing welcome
and support.

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(Luben): It was truly
inexplicable to us,

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because we arrived
in a foreign land and,
for whatever reason,

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a broad spectrum of society

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decided to stand
behind our cause.

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And the paradox lies therein,
that as, in our own country,

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we would\'ve never garnered
this support for whatever cause.

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(soft piano music)

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(Elena): Then came Iliyana.

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And until Iliyana was three,

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I couldn\'t work at all.

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It was hard to afford
a daycare.

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So I remember actually asking
some of the daycares around

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if they will like to have
a painting...

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(laughing)
...for daycare service.

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So that\'s how I started.

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And I was ready to start
spilling out rivers

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of accumulated energy
and ideas and... and I did.

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I did.
I started working like mad,

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and, uh, Luben said,

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\"Your work looks like an artist

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who\'s been muted
for a very long time.\"

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(ship\'s horn blowing)

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I received a phone call
from an elderly woman...

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...in St.John\'s.

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And she simply called
to thank me
for the piece she owns...

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...because this is the only
thing that is helping her to go
through the winter blues.

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I said to myself: Elena,

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if you haven\'t done
anything else in your life,

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just this phone call,
just that piece, that\'s enough.
That\'s success.\"

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- Ever since I came
to Newfoundland,

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I\'ve scoured the coastline
as an inspiration

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and also a practical source
of... of materials.

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I started off as a young artist,
very much in...
in the classical tradition,

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whose... main premise
was the fact that we,

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as human beings,
are in the centre
of the universe.

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There\'s a very strong emphasis
in the fact

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that we are almost...

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separate from
our surroundings...

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...and humans are the measure
for all things in the universe.

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When I started
to work with grass,

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it was very much a function
of this rebellion

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against the classical tradition
of making a sculpture in clay,

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making a mould,

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making a wax copy
of the mould,

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and then casting it in bronze.

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The boundaries
of the technical
and the artistic

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were completely obliterated.

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And I guess this is a function
of the fact

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that I own a... a foundry

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and I have the freedom
to experiment.

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(Elena): When we were young,
we experienced some...

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jealousy for each other\'s work.

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We were competitive.

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We had to affirm
our personalities,

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and... I had to show you
who I am.

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And I demanded your respect
and admiration.

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- And gradually, over time,
what happened?

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- I was happier
and more excited...

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to see your work

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and to witness
your process of creating...

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...to the point
when I lost myself
in your work...

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...I was witnessing the flow
of artistic and spiritual,

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intellectual energy
coming out of you.

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Pfft! One piece.
Next day, another piece.

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And all I was doing
was crying...

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...in front of your work.

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And we used to buy
each other\'s work.

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- Buy each other\'s work.
Yeah. And to this day, even.

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I was much more interested
in owning...

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something that you have
created than my own work.

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We\'ve never been interested
in our own work.

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- Quite a few times,
I was ready to destroy a piece,

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and you will arrive
in that crucial moment and say,

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\"What are you doing?!
No! I-I\'m buying this piece!

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I want it.\"

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And you saved...

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You saved quite a few pieces
of mine.

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(Luben): We had quite
a successful professional life,

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and established careers,

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and big projects in Canada,

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in North America.

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But there came a time
when we felt

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that something
had to be changed,

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needed to be changed.

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(Elena): Sunday morning,

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when I woke up
after a very vivid dream,

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I called Luben,
I made two coffees,

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we sat...

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and Luben looked at me,

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I... said, \"Listen carefully.

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I have something
very important to tell you.\"

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My dream was telling me

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that we should live
on two islands:

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one dramatic, majestic,

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that has inspired us
for so many years;

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and on another island,

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just as beautiful
as Newfoundland,

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but hot and volcanic.

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And I...
and I think this is Sicily.

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(whispering)
- Whew.

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- Ooh!

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I will never, ever forget...

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that moment when you said,

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\"You lead the way
and I\'ll follow you.\"

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And if a man can say something
like that..

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...he\'s half-woman.
- I\'m getting there.

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- You\'re getting there.
(laughter)

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So when you had a project,

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I told you I\'m going to Sicily

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to figure this knot...

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of our future life.

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And I walked inside,
with a bigportona,

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the big gate,
inside this courtyard.

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And I said, \"Ah... Whoa.

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This is our place!\"

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And I called you,

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sent you a few pictures,
and you said,

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\"No way. Forget about it.\"

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- What I saw in the photographs
were ruins,

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major dollar signs...

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to bring it back to life,
incredible effort.

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I guess I didn\'t see the magic
of the place in the photographs.

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So when we came
two, three months later,

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and when I saw it
from the outside,

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through the fence, I said--

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- Do you know what you said?
\"This is our place.\"

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- It took about a year.

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And finally, one day,
after having signed the deeds

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and the cheques
and the documents...

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...we walked through the gate,
opened up a bottle of wine,

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raised a glass,

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and you danced in the courtyard
until two in the morning.

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And both of us were dancing
like children.

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- For an artist,

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there\'s nothing more dangerous -

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and in a way, destructive -

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for the artistic soul
and inspirations to...

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to stay in the comfort zone
for too long.

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(indistinct chatter)

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The contrasts in life
are a huge driving force.

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Anything too calm,
too predictable,

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is killing the artistic drive
and inspiration,

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at least for me.

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Yeah, it needs one centimetre.

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- One centimetre.
- Yeah.

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No, eight millimetres.
(laughing)

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- Eight millimetres.
Okay, you hold the thing.

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That\'s good. You\'re in?

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- Mm-hmm.
- Okay.

00:26:03.208 --> 00:26:06.041
Let\'s see how far off we are.

00:26:06.041 --> 00:26:07.667
- I told you.
- No!

00:26:07.667 --> 00:26:12.834
- I asked you to put it down
a couple of millimetres,

00:26:12.834 --> 00:26:16.333
so we need another two,
as I told.

00:26:16.333 --> 00:26:18.667
- This is so minimal, though,
Elena.

00:26:18.667 --> 00:26:19.917
This was impossible to--

00:26:19.917 --> 00:26:24.041
- But I saw it,
two millimetres.
- Okay.

00:26:24.041 --> 00:26:27.125
- Luben, do you know the title
of this piece?

00:26:27.125 --> 00:26:28.750
- End is Love.
- End is Love.

00:26:28.750 --> 00:26:33.250
- Come on, Elena.
You should know your titles
better than me.

00:26:33.250 --> 00:26:34.333
- No, I know my title.

00:26:34.333 --> 00:26:39.542
I just want to see
how your memory
is still working.

00:26:44.875 --> 00:26:47.917
(bleating)
(bells clanging)

00:26:51.125 --> 00:26:53.542
(indistinct chatter)

00:26:55.375 --> 00:26:58.000
(barking)
(bleating)

00:27:00.458 --> 00:27:03.125
(indistinct chatter)

00:27:05.166 --> 00:27:06.750
- The year is \'73,

00:27:06.750 --> 00:27:11.542
and my father encouraged me
to start painting.

00:27:12.959 --> 00:27:15.417
He was a really good father,

00:27:15.417 --> 00:27:19.625
and a good artist.
A sculptor as well,
just like you.

00:27:19.709 --> 00:27:23.250
He taught me the alphabet
of visual art.

00:27:24.500 --> 00:27:27.291
I... I miss him.

00:27:30.875 --> 00:27:34.000
- My circumstances
were so similar,
if not identical,

00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.542
with a father sculptor
and growing up.

00:27:38.375 --> 00:27:41.583
I was not particularly
encouraged.

00:27:41.583 --> 00:27:44.709
And I wasn\'t really sure,
at a very early age,

00:27:44.709 --> 00:27:46.375
that I would become an artist.

00:27:46.375 --> 00:27:51.166
But around about the time
that I was 13,

00:27:51.166 --> 00:27:52.041
I enrolled--

00:27:52.041 --> 00:27:56.583
- The same age, same age.
- I enrolled without even
notifying my parents,

00:27:56.583 --> 00:27:58.417
in a prep course...

00:27:58.417 --> 00:28:03.000
for the entrance exams
at the art school.

00:28:03.208 --> 00:28:07.375
Maybe after a couple of classes,
I told my father

00:28:07.375 --> 00:28:10.542
that I\'d decided
to give it a try.

00:28:10.542 --> 00:28:11.875
And he was really surprised.

00:28:11.875 --> 00:28:18.834
I don\'t suppose he expected me
to... follow in his footsteps.

00:28:23.417 --> 00:28:28.000
(vibrato violins)

00:29:03.792 --> 00:29:06.166
♪♪

00:30:01.709 --> 00:30:04.083
♪♪

00:31:03.041 --> 00:31:05.417
♪♪

00:31:08.125 --> 00:31:10.166
Both Elena and I
were very, very lucky

00:31:10.166 --> 00:31:14.208
to have strong, strong bonds
with our fathers,
who were artists.

00:31:14.208 --> 00:31:18.959
And on the basis
of our huge love for them,

00:31:18.959 --> 00:31:21.583
we absorbed
their artistic values,

00:31:21.583 --> 00:31:24.000
their artistic creeds.

00:31:25.959 --> 00:31:27.917
It was a movable feast of...

00:31:27.917 --> 00:31:31.875
of creative energy
that we were surrounded by,

00:31:31.875 --> 00:31:34.750
with the laughter
and the discussions

00:31:34.750 --> 00:31:38.417
and the arguments
and the passion.

00:31:38.709 --> 00:31:43.333
We were brought up
in a bright... room...

00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.166
...inside a dark world.

00:31:48.500 --> 00:31:53.917
It is a paradox,
because the values
that they instilled in us...

00:31:54.333 --> 00:31:58.709
...to value freedom and...
and human rights...

00:31:58.709 --> 00:32:01.250
and the individual,

00:32:01.250 --> 00:32:05.000
is ultimately what made us
decide to...

00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:08.709
to go away and leave them.

00:32:08.709 --> 00:32:14.000
(pan flute and violins playing
enchanting music)

00:33:03.125 --> 00:33:08.917
♪♪

00:34:42.083 --> 00:34:44.750
(Elena):

00:36:25.333 --> 00:36:27.750
(horns honking)

00:37:44.166 --> 00:37:47.166
You were just a silhouette.
That\'s what you were.

00:37:48.166 --> 00:37:50.917
You were an aura I saw.

00:37:53.458 --> 00:37:55.166
No discerning details.

00:37:55.166 --> 00:37:58.917
I saw you from a distance
and, uh...

00:37:58.917 --> 00:38:01.583
you were a magnetic point.

00:38:02.333 --> 00:38:04.542
(laughter)

00:38:10.583 --> 00:38:15.959
I was so dedicated to my time
in the Academy of Fine Art.

00:38:15.959 --> 00:38:19.959
I was convinced I\'m not going
to date anybody.

00:38:19.959 --> 00:38:22.250
So just as I\'m approaching
the door,

00:38:22.250 --> 00:38:24.166
turning left
to my drawing school--

00:38:24.166 --> 00:38:27.125
- There first day?
- On the first day...

00:38:27.125 --> 00:38:28.625
Oh! And then I...

00:38:28.625 --> 00:38:33.875
And I couldn\'t...
finish my drawing class,
I guess, properly,

00:38:33.875 --> 00:38:35.291
because my mind
was going to--

00:38:35.291 --> 00:38:39.166
- Drifting.
- To... drifting to...
to these eyes I met.

00:38:39.166 --> 00:38:41.417
- To the tall guy.

00:38:42.542 --> 00:38:44.500
- You were so tall!

00:38:44.500 --> 00:38:46.083
You were very skinny.

00:38:46.083 --> 00:38:49.959
Uh... you had a very cheap dart
in your--

00:38:49.959 --> 00:38:51.250
- Cigarette, yeah.

00:38:51.250 --> 00:38:53.542
- You had no hair whatsoever.

00:38:53.542 --> 00:38:56.291
- I was right out
of the military.

00:38:57.792 --> 00:39:00.250
- And our eyes met...

00:39:01.667 --> 00:39:04.000
...and something...

00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.458
touched me right in the solar--

00:39:06.458 --> 00:39:09.417
- Plexus, yeah.
- The solar plexus.

00:39:12.458 --> 00:39:14.542
- You were 19, I was 20.

00:39:14.542 --> 00:39:15.917
All our friends were partying

00:39:15.917 --> 00:39:19.375
and we would normally choose
just to lock ourselves up

00:39:19.375 --> 00:39:22.875
in a small shabby room
in my father\'s studio and--

00:39:22.875 --> 00:39:26.041
- With a little bit of grappa
and the backgammon.

00:39:26.041 --> 00:39:29.125
- And stay there
for days on end.

00:40:05.417 --> 00:40:07.792
(both chuckling)

00:40:08.041 --> 00:40:13.000
- I suppose I have something
to do with that.
- Mm-hmm.

00:40:55.667 --> 00:41:01.166
- A very fundamental shift
in my work coincided with my...

00:41:01.166 --> 00:41:05.667
moving from my native Bulgaria
to Canada.

00:41:07.625 --> 00:41:08.875
We have gotten to the point,

00:41:08.875 --> 00:41:12.542
when we have isolated ourselves
to a very large degree

00:41:12.542 --> 00:41:15.709
from our surroundings,
from our roots,

00:41:15.709 --> 00:41:17.750
from our primordial foundation,

00:41:17.750 --> 00:41:20.583
that makes us not only human,

00:41:20.583 --> 00:41:22.917
and a separate species,

00:41:22.917 --> 00:41:27.500
but also makes us a...
a part of this big whole

00:41:27.500 --> 00:41:32.834
that just for purposes
of convenience
we call nature.

00:41:36.667 --> 00:41:41.583
We are related to every single
particle of matter
in this universe.

00:41:41.583 --> 00:41:45.542
We\'re relatives to everything
that surrounds us

00:41:45.542 --> 00:41:48.917
and exists alongside with us.

00:41:54.625 --> 00:41:59.333
This shift in my work
is very much reflected in...

00:41:59.500 --> 00:42:02.333
...in this project, Ursa Major.

00:42:17.709 --> 00:42:21.041
The burning heads in Ursa Major
are human images.

00:42:21.041 --> 00:42:24.750
At the same time,
they are the stars.

00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:28.834
This, I hope, reveals to us

00:42:28.834 --> 00:42:33.000
our fundamental roots
in the greater whole,

00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:35.750
which is the universe.

00:42:49.750 --> 00:42:52.917
(Elena): You\'ve given me
serious pain.

00:42:53.458 --> 00:42:58.750
There\'s a moment when the fire
was completely extinguished.

00:43:02.125 --> 00:43:05.542
I loved you beyond belief,

00:43:05.542 --> 00:43:07.375
words, imagination,

00:43:07.375 --> 00:43:10.417
and I hated you so deeply.

00:43:10.917 --> 00:43:12.166
I would ask myself:

00:43:12.166 --> 00:43:17.291
How is it possible to experience
these extreme feelings
at the same time?

00:43:17.291 --> 00:43:19.583
How is it possible?!

00:43:26.750 --> 00:43:31.166
You said you don\'t love me
anymore, or whatever.

00:43:31.166 --> 00:43:34.750
That\'s probably the end of us.

00:43:35.834 --> 00:43:39.792
And I said,
\"Yeah, okay, maybe.\"

00:43:39.959 --> 00:43:41.500
And I was flying to New York,

00:43:41.500 --> 00:43:46.125
and I wanted this airplane
to go down so badly.

00:43:46.125 --> 00:43:50.250
Until I saw... a little girl,

00:43:50.250 --> 00:43:55.542
and I said, \"Oh, for God sake,
Elena, you\'re... you\'re crazy.\"

00:44:00.125 --> 00:44:02.250
There were moments...
when you and I,

00:44:02.250 --> 00:44:07.583
like the two express trains,
would just--
- On a collision course?

00:44:10.250 --> 00:44:12.917
When we split up forever...

00:44:12.917 --> 00:44:16.959
...and we were never, ever
gonna be together again...

00:44:16.959 --> 00:44:19.709
- I dated even another man.
- Yeah.

00:44:19.709 --> 00:44:22.000
- And you dated two.

00:44:22.542 --> 00:44:25.250
- Beside the point.
(laughter)

00:44:26.709 --> 00:44:30.041
But you had the impulse,
just casually,

00:44:30.041 --> 00:44:33.291
to swing by my apartment
and whistle.

00:44:33.291 --> 00:44:35.000
- To whistle...
our favourite whistle.

00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:41.458
- It was in June or May,
and the window was open
and I heard the whistle.

00:44:43.333 --> 00:44:46.291
In order for something
to be reignited,

00:44:46.291 --> 00:44:50.166
there must be a dormant fire
within you.

00:44:50.166 --> 00:44:54.000
And this is what has been...
the story.

00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:56.875
We have always had it
since day one,

00:44:56.875 --> 00:44:59.041
a fire has been burning.

00:45:13.542 --> 00:45:14.125
Wow.

00:45:14.125 --> 00:45:17.000
- I think the most important
thing between two people is...

00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:20.667
I don\'t really know how to say
that word in English, actually,

00:45:20.667 --> 00:45:23.917
because I\'ve said it so much
in Spanish:plenitud.

00:45:23.917 --> 00:45:24.917
It\'s, um, it\'s like--

00:45:24.917 --> 00:45:26.583
- Full completeness.
- Full completeness,
fulfillment.

00:45:26.583 --> 00:45:32.250
Just feeling fulfilled
in every level of your being
and every level of...

00:45:32.250 --> 00:45:35.750
of who you are, you know:
intellectually, physically,

00:45:35.750 --> 00:45:38.125
emotionally, mentally,
spiritually.

00:45:38.125 --> 00:45:42.667
You know, you have to have
all of those things.
And if you don\'t, then...

00:45:42.667 --> 00:45:45.709
We have really high standards,
because Mom and Dad, like,

00:45:45.709 --> 00:45:48.291
have given us
such a great example
of their love,

00:45:48.291 --> 00:45:52.208
that we always have
such a hard time
finding the right person, or--

00:45:52.208 --> 00:45:55.125
- Finding a relationship.
- We\'re always
picking out details.

00:45:55.125 --> 00:45:56.750
- No, it\'s true.
That\'s my biggest problem,

00:45:56.750 --> 00:46:01.125
is I expect my relationships
to be exactly
like their relationship,

00:46:01.125 --> 00:46:03.041
which is very hard to find.

00:46:03.041 --> 00:46:07.125
- Very hard to find.
- And it\'s set our standards,

00:46:07.125 --> 00:46:10.917
sometimes they tell us,
unrealistically high.

00:46:11.208 --> 00:46:16.000
(soft, steady piano music)

00:46:23.709 --> 00:46:28.125
- \"I cut in two
A long November night,

00:46:28.125 --> 00:46:31.542
and place half
under the coverlet,

00:46:31.542 --> 00:46:35.333
Sweet-scented
as a spring breeze.

00:46:35.333 --> 00:46:37.041
And when he comes,

00:46:37.041 --> 00:46:38.875
I shall take it out,

00:46:38.875 --> 00:46:41.250
Unroll it inch by inch,

00:46:41.250 --> 00:46:43.750
to stretch the night.\"

00:46:44.875 --> 00:46:48.667
- And this is what gave title
to the project.

00:46:48.667 --> 00:46:49.250
- Wow.

00:46:49.250 --> 00:46:53.250
- It\'s hard to even see it
as a collaborative work.

00:46:53.291 --> 00:46:55.291
The whole process took a year,
at least,

00:46:55.291 --> 00:47:00.125
and then in two, three weeks,
I made all the covers,
all 18 pieces.

00:47:00.125 --> 00:47:05.917
- And you and Tara gave me
the green light
to choose the poems.

00:47:06.625 --> 00:47:09.000
♪♪

00:47:09.375 --> 00:47:13.375
\"I live, I die, I burn,
I drown...\"

00:47:15.208 --> 00:47:18.125
- \"Your love seemed to last
even longer...

00:47:18.125 --> 00:47:19.792
(both): \"...than time itself.\"
- Whoa.

00:47:19.792 --> 00:47:25.542
- \"Now you wave your hand
and suddenly your love for me
is over!\"

00:47:27.083 --> 00:47:27.709
- Whoa!

00:47:27.709 --> 00:47:32.417
- And that\'s another...
tour-de-force of a poem.

00:47:32.875 --> 00:47:35.917
- \"I swear
by the miracle-working ikon

00:47:35.917 --> 00:47:40.083
and by the fire and smoke
of our nights:

00:47:40.083 --> 00:47:42.333
I will never come back to you.\"

00:47:42.333 --> 00:47:46.041
- The rage
and the disappointment
and the anger.

00:47:46.041 --> 00:47:49.500
- Yeah,
it\'s a totally crazy poem.

00:47:53.792 --> 00:47:57.166
We loved each other, right?
(Luben chuckling)

00:47:57.166 --> 00:47:59.250
We must have.

00:48:04.166 --> 00:48:06.917
♪♪

00:48:08.750 --> 00:48:10.375
- I was supposed to go to...

00:48:10.375 --> 00:48:14.166
be part of an international
symposium to make a sculpture.

00:48:14.166 --> 00:48:15.083
And at that time,

00:48:15.083 --> 00:48:20.750
just maybe days before
I was supposed to leave
to go to the States...

00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.250
...uh, my father died.

00:48:27.417 --> 00:48:31.250
He... passed away suddenly
and it was...

00:48:31.250 --> 00:48:34.667
...one of the hardest moments
in my life.

00:48:35.959 --> 00:48:37.250
So...

00:48:37.250 --> 00:48:39.667
I couldn\'t do... anything

00:48:39.667 --> 00:48:40.667
for a long, long period,

00:48:40.667 --> 00:48:45.291
because the pain
was just too strong.
But a year passed.

00:48:47.083 --> 00:48:50.709
I was again invited to attend...

00:48:50.959 --> 00:48:54.000
...the next edition
of the symposium.

00:48:54.959 --> 00:48:57.667
I spent maybe a day
looking around.

00:48:57.667 --> 00:49:00.667
Then I saw big boulders.

00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.250
♪♪

00:49:10.834 --> 00:49:15.041
And I made a piece
of two pieces of rock

00:49:15.041 --> 00:49:18.333
and stitched them
with steel rope.

00:49:19.208 --> 00:49:23.792
And I called the piece...
My Father and I.

00:49:30.166 --> 00:49:33.125
And it was an homage
to not just my father,

00:49:33.125 --> 00:49:34.875
but the bond
between two people

00:49:34.875 --> 00:49:38.500
separated by thousands of miles

00:49:38.500 --> 00:49:39.834
and...

00:49:39.834 --> 00:49:41.667
to those...

00:49:41.667 --> 00:49:43.083
indelible marks

00:49:43.083 --> 00:49:46.542
of the forces
that hold us together.

00:49:51.458 --> 00:49:55.000
(birds chirping)

00:50:36.417 --> 00:50:40.959
- What we did by getting out
was at least, as human beings,

00:50:40.959 --> 00:50:44.500
we could immerse ourselves
in a broader context.

00:50:44.500 --> 00:50:45.834
So this bright room,

00:50:45.834 --> 00:50:48.417
this incubator
in which we existed,

00:50:48.417 --> 00:50:50.834
was never enough.

00:51:05.709 --> 00:51:08.208
Certain changes
were beginning to happen.

00:51:08.208 --> 00:51:12.875
We realized that those changes
were on the surface,

00:51:12.875 --> 00:51:15.166
they were superficial.

00:51:15.166 --> 00:51:18.250
The regime
was so deeply entrenched,

00:51:18.250 --> 00:51:20.667
and the psyche of the people,

00:51:20.667 --> 00:51:25.333
the mechanisms had penetrated
every facet of society;

00:51:25.333 --> 00:51:29.959
this omnipotent octopus that,

00:51:29.959 --> 00:51:32.333
with its invisible tentacles,

00:51:32.333 --> 00:51:35.250
squeezes the life out of it.

00:51:37.917 --> 00:51:38.792
We had one child.

00:51:38.792 --> 00:51:43.083
So we didn\'t want this child
to grow up
in similar conditions.

00:51:43.083 --> 00:51:44.750
We didn\'t want them
brainwashed.

00:51:44.750 --> 00:51:47.709
We didn\'t want them influenced
by ideologies

00:51:47.709 --> 00:51:51.583
that still, to this day,
influence people.

00:51:54.709 --> 00:51:57.667
(Elena): The fear was...
beyond belief.

00:51:57.667 --> 00:52:02.000
- (inaudible)
- The pain for leaving
our parents behind,

00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.750
and our close friends...

00:52:05.041 --> 00:52:07.291
...is still vivid...
to this day.

00:52:07.291 --> 00:52:12.250
- Absolutely. It stayed with us
for the rest of our lives.

00:52:12.250 --> 00:52:17.000
(dry pan flute playing)

00:54:30.625 --> 00:54:33.417
(choral singing)

00:55:23.583 --> 00:55:26.750
(choral singing continues)

00:55:57.500 --> 00:55:59.709
(laughter)
Ah? Huh?

00:56:05.250 --> 00:56:08.333
(laughter)
(Bulgarian chatter)

00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:49.125
(speaking Bulgarian)
(laughing)

00:57:18.500 --> 00:57:20.750
(laughter)

00:59:09.125 --> 00:59:13.125
(background chatter)
(indistinct PA announcement)

00:59:30.917 --> 00:59:33.125
(laughter)

00:59:52.583 --> 00:59:55.917
- Oh, my God.
(Elena speaking Bulgarian)

00:59:55.917 --> 00:59:58.875
(Luben): It\'s not easy
for the four of us to...

00:59:58.875 --> 01:00:02.375
be at the same place
at the same time.

01:00:03.333 --> 01:00:06.750
(Elena): When they came
to Sicily...

01:00:06.750 --> 01:00:08.458
- In 2014...
- In 2014...

01:00:08.458 --> 01:00:10.083
- We were scattered
all over the world.

01:00:10.083 --> 01:00:13.291
Ana was in Paris at the time,
Iliyana was in Toronto,

01:00:13.291 --> 01:00:16.500
I was in St. John\'s,
and you were in Sicily.

01:00:16.500 --> 01:00:19.917
- At the end,
it work out very well.

01:00:21.583 --> 01:00:23.208
- We went to Ragusa and...

01:00:23.208 --> 01:00:26.500
- To a concert
of Franco Battiato.
- Saw him in concert.

01:00:26.500 --> 01:00:29.709
- When we got out,
all pumped up, Iliyana said:

01:00:29.709 --> 01:00:33.208
- \"Guys,
we should do a tattoo...

01:00:33.208 --> 01:00:37.709
with one of Franco Battiato\'s...
verses.\"

01:00:37.709 --> 01:00:39.959
- She said it\'s a symbol of...

01:00:39.959 --> 01:00:42.375
the connection
between the four of us...

01:00:42.375 --> 01:00:45.375
- Belonging to each other.
- Belonging to each other,

01:00:45.375 --> 01:00:50.000
looking after each other,
being there for one another.

01:00:50.834 --> 01:00:52.917
-Ed io, avroò cura di te.

01:00:52.917 --> 01:00:55.208
That means
\"I will take care of you,

01:00:55.208 --> 01:00:57.208
I will protect you,\" in a sense.

01:00:57.208 --> 01:01:01.000
So yeah,
this is what mine looks like.

01:01:08.625 --> 01:01:12.208
- It\'s kind of like when people
ask me where my home is.

01:01:12.208 --> 01:01:14.500
And when they ask me
that question,

01:01:14.500 --> 01:01:17.834
it\'s never in Newfoundland
or Toronto or Sicily.

01:01:17.834 --> 01:01:20.041
My home is where you guys are.

01:01:20.041 --> 01:01:23.667
Wherever you are,
that is my home.

01:01:30.458 --> 01:01:33.333
(both speaking Italian)

01:01:34.417 --> 01:01:37.458
(Luben): It is almost a paradox
that we wanted our...

01:01:37.458 --> 01:01:43.500
children to grow up in
and live in free societies
and environments,

01:01:43.500 --> 01:01:45.333
and now there are signs that...

01:01:45.333 --> 01:01:51.250
those values are seriously
being compromised
in the Western democracies.

01:01:51.709 --> 01:01:55.709
The first 30 years of our lives,
we lived in...

01:01:55.709 --> 01:01:58.208
in a classic
totalitarian regime.

01:01:58.208 --> 01:02:00.166
And when we see those signs,

01:02:00.166 --> 01:02:03.041
we are really sensitive
and attuned to them.

01:02:03.041 --> 01:02:05.667
Many people in the west
are much more oblivious.

01:02:05.667 --> 01:02:11.250
But we recognize
some of those symptoms,
because we have lived them.

01:02:15.917 --> 01:02:18.250
(Luben):

01:02:29.041 --> 01:02:31.125
- Ah.
- Da.

01:02:47.166 --> 01:02:50.333
(busker singing in Italian)

01:03:29.125 --> 01:03:31.125
(laughter)

01:03:46.959 --> 01:03:51.750
Over the years, I\'m moving
from durability to temporality,

01:03:51.750 --> 01:03:54.500
to, uh... vulnerability,

01:03:54.500 --> 01:03:57.750
to objects that don\'t last.

01:04:00.458 --> 01:04:04.792
Any simple,
really humble material
I believe...

01:04:04.792 --> 01:04:07.458
deserves its own state
of existence,

01:04:07.458 --> 01:04:12.250
transformed through the human
intervention, in this sense.

01:04:15.208 --> 01:04:17.875
I\'m... really moving away...

01:04:17.875 --> 01:04:20.125
from this traditional...

01:04:20.125 --> 01:04:22.000
desire in all of us

01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:24.750
to transcend... mortality.

01:04:24.750 --> 01:04:27.000
That\'s what it is.

01:04:32.709 --> 01:04:37.208
This substitution of...
flesh and bone...

01:04:37.208 --> 01:04:40.750
with grasses, grape bunches,

01:04:40.750 --> 01:04:42.291
cactus, fibre,

01:04:42.291 --> 01:04:45.000
is a function of my conviction
that...

01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:51.417
there are no physical boundaries
between any form of life.

01:04:52.291 --> 01:04:55.750
If one day, I can just make
sculpture out of air,

01:04:55.750 --> 01:04:59.458
and manipulate air to the point
whereby it can convey,

01:04:59.458 --> 01:05:01.417
at least
for a brief period of time,

01:05:01.417 --> 01:05:05.000
a certain thought, idea,
emotion, feeling...

01:05:05.542 --> 01:05:09.125
...this is the direction
I\'m going towards.

01:05:09.959 --> 01:05:12.417
The more fragile, the better.

01:05:23.625 --> 01:05:29.125
- Art and artists are,
and should be, provocative.

01:05:29.625 --> 01:05:31.875
And art can open up the space

01:05:31.875 --> 01:05:35.917
that gives us this moment
of introspection

01:05:35.917 --> 01:05:37.625
where you can recreate yourself,

01:05:37.625 --> 01:05:42.458
you can think a little bit more
about the world,

01:05:42.458 --> 01:05:45.125
about different ideas.

01:06:02.500 --> 01:06:05.125
(indistinct chatter)

01:06:25.417 --> 01:06:28.250
- Okay...
(indistinct chatter)

01:06:33.917 --> 01:06:36.458
(indistinct chatter)

01:06:37.125 --> 01:06:40.709
Since day one, I thought
you were... an explosion.

01:06:40.709 --> 01:06:43.333
You had an enormous potential.
I could feel it,

01:06:43.333 --> 01:06:47.333
I could sense it, I could...
I could taste it.

01:07:14.834 --> 01:07:16.875
But what a difference
between...

01:07:16.875 --> 01:07:19.792
what I remember
from 35 years ago

01:07:19.792 --> 01:07:22.000
and what I see today.

01:07:23.875 --> 01:07:28.750
I think the main two or three
characteristics...

01:07:29.250 --> 01:07:32.667
...are your audacity...

01:07:32.917 --> 01:07:34.291
...your authenticity,

01:07:34.291 --> 01:07:37.917
which has always been a thread,

01:07:37.917 --> 01:07:40.542
and your...

01:07:41.291 --> 01:07:43.667
...gaining depth over the years,

01:07:43.667 --> 01:07:46.959
in character
and in artistic expression.

01:07:46.959 --> 01:07:50.000
- Luben,
I really like the shadows,
actually, there.

01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:54.250
- You don\'t think
they\'re too close?
Anyway, let\'s see.

01:07:54.250 --> 01:07:56.291
(grunting)
- Hey, Luben!

01:07:56.291 --> 01:07:58.750
(speaking Bulgarian)

01:08:00.250 --> 01:08:04.125
- I was never, ever bored
with you.

01:08:24.333 --> 01:08:26.917
(speaking Italian)

01:08:29.709 --> 01:08:31.959
I can picture our fathers,
actually, in--

01:08:31.959 --> 01:08:33.667
- Oh, they would\'ve been
in the centre--

01:08:33.667 --> 01:08:36.875
- Leading a tour of the show,
explaining to the audience

01:08:36.875 --> 01:08:41.709
that the essence of...
of what was being shown,

01:08:41.709 --> 01:08:44.959
with an elevated sense of pride

01:08:44.959 --> 01:08:47.542
and... and praise.

01:08:52.875 --> 01:08:55.333
(in Italian):

01:09:20.041 --> 01:09:21.750
(laughter)

01:09:38.792 --> 01:09:41.875
(Iliyana):
Everything they have done
has been dreams.

01:09:41.875 --> 01:09:45.166
And it might sound
completely intangible or crazy,

01:09:45.166 --> 01:09:47.959
and they\'ve made it happen,
every time.

01:09:47.959 --> 01:09:50.291
(Ana): Mom\'s dream
became a reality.

01:09:50.291 --> 01:09:51.291
- Yeah.
(chuckling)

01:09:51.291 --> 01:09:55.375
- And we\'re so fortunate
to have the family that we do.

01:09:55.375 --> 01:09:57.542
And me and Ana will be
bickering and... on the phone,

01:09:57.542 --> 01:10:01.291
my parents are so good
at going back to the big picture
and saying,

01:10:01.291 --> 01:10:04.166
\"What are you doing?
You love each other!

01:10:04.166 --> 01:10:05.250
Please just imagine...

01:10:05.250 --> 01:10:08.291
for a second if tomorrow
you didn\'t have one another.\"

01:10:08.291 --> 01:10:09.625
And we instantly are, like: Oh!\"

01:10:09.625 --> 01:10:14.250
- Even though we just wanted
to strangle each other
five minutes ago.

01:10:14.250 --> 01:10:16.333
- Yeah, a second ago.

01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:31.291
You asked me
what my dreams are.

01:10:31.291 --> 01:10:36.750
My biggest is to find somebody
by my side
the way that they did.

01:10:38.375 --> 01:10:39.959
I think it\'s...
such a beautiful thing

01:10:39.959 --> 01:10:44.792
that we were so,
so lucky to be shown,
because yes, it\'s hard to find,

01:10:44.792 --> 01:10:50.625
but if you\'re never shown
that example,
you will never search for it.

01:10:56.917 --> 01:10:59.917
(Luben): You have one gesture
that expresses it all.

01:10:59.917 --> 01:11:06.542
When you want to find
the ultimate synthesis
of what is important,

01:11:06.542 --> 01:11:08.834
you go like this.

01:11:09.583 --> 01:11:12.583
What\'s here
between the two of us,

01:11:12.583 --> 01:11:15.375
this space, this flow.

01:11:15.667 --> 01:11:19.542
- But this... this space can...
can go pfft.
Nothing is fixed in--

01:11:19.542 --> 01:11:24.750
- In an instant, in an instant.
It can and it will, sometime.

01:11:27.875 --> 01:11:29.959
- In fact, our daughters,

01:11:29.959 --> 01:11:33.959
they\'ve witnessed
some of our huge..

01:11:33.959 --> 01:11:36.041
arguments and conflicts.

01:11:36.041 --> 01:11:37.709
What they said,

01:11:37.709 --> 01:11:40.041
\"Thank you for giving us that\"--

01:11:40.041 --> 01:11:43.125
- \"That moment
of imperfection.\"

01:11:45.875 --> 01:11:50.667
- Who knows? It may last...
for another couple of weeks...

01:11:50.667 --> 01:11:54.333
- Another minute.
- So be it.
- Another lifetime.

01:11:54.834 --> 01:11:57.500
- I feel good when...

01:11:57.500 --> 01:12:02.083
we remind each other
how fragile is everything,

01:12:02.083 --> 01:12:05.000
how... how important it is to...

01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:07.458
to keep that fire...

01:12:07.959 --> 01:12:10.166
...for life, for each other,

01:12:10.166 --> 01:12:12.542
not taking it for granted.

01:12:12.542 --> 01:12:15.000
It\'s a good thing.

01:12:22.333 --> 01:12:24.125
(barking)

01:12:30.417 --> 01:12:32.250
(honking)

01:12:41.709 --> 01:12:43.834
(laughter)

01:12:52.709 --> 01:12:54.667
(laughter)

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