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Between Two Worlds
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BETWEEN TWO WORLDS is a groundbreaking personal exploration of the community and family divisions that are redefining American Jewish identity and politics. The filmmakers' own families are battlegrounds over loyalty to Israel, interpretations of the Holocaust, intermarriage, and a secret communist past.
Filmed in the United States and Israel, this first-person documentary begins with a near riot at a Jewish Film Festival in San Francisco, reveals the agonizing battle over divestment from Israel on a university campus, and shows the crackdown on dissent in Israel itself.
'Riveting and moving...This brave and original work jettisons shrill argument, and illuminates today's furious debates over Jewish politics and identity.' David Biale, Professor of Jewish History, UC Davis
'Between Two Worlds is a film about the most important questions that are currently shaping American Jewish life. There are many answers in the film, but its real purpose is to show how these questions are as deeply personal as they are communal, as important for policy as they are to claiming a Jewish identity. The filmmakers challenge, incite and provoke, insisting that viewers engage with the issues and talk to others about them.' Riv-Ellen Prell, Professor of American Studies, University of Minnesota, Author, Women Remaking American Judaism
'Between Two Worlds is an explosive behind-the-scenes exploration of the contemporary civil war within the Jewish community over the question of the lessons of the Holocaust and the reality of Israeli policies toward Palestinians. Here, we find Jews of Conscience struggling to find their own voice and speak it. How refreshing it is to hear and see this voice on film, as it is our Jewish future, if we are to have one worth bequeathing to our children.' Marc Ellis, Professor of Jewish Studies, Professor of History, Director of the Center for Jewish Studies, Baylor University, Author, Encountering the Jewish Future
'Between Two Worlds couldn't be more timely...I hope many American Jews will see it and come out, as I did, provoked, educated, and, as usual, torn apart...[A] beautiful, passionate, and riveting personal documentary.' Ruth Rosen, Professor Emerita of History, UC Davis, Author, The World Split Open: How the Modern Women's Movement Changed America
'Who speaks for American Jews? Who decides which views on Israeli-Palestinian issues are beyond the pale of discussion and debate? Part personal memoir, part social critique, and part history lesson, Between Two Worlds addresses these thorny questions with sharp insight and impressive ethical passion. Sure to arouse strong emotion, this courageous and eloquent documentary should be seen by anyone who cares about the fractious state of the Jewish community today.' Michael Staub, Professor, Department of English, Baruch College, Author, Torn at the Roots: The Crisis of Jewish Liberalism in Postwar America
'Between Two Worlds has the exhilarating energy and fierce commitment of Jewish conversation itself. The film brings history, nuance, and insight to political arguments roiling campuses today.' Naomi Seidman, Professor of Jewish Culture, Graduate Theological Union
'A passionate, poignant and beautiful film...A must see not only for American Jews, but for anyone who has experienced the turmoil of generational change. Linking intimate family stories with insights about current community conflicts, it will open up a space for much-needed dialogue.' Diane Wolf, Professor of Sociology and Director of Jewish Studies, UC Davis
'Between Two Worlds presents a poignant and perceptive look at the difficulties of discourse within the Jewish community. At a time when civil discourse around Israel and social justice has become increasingly difficult, this film offers much-needed inspiration to open up space for conversation within our community.' Rabbi Jill Jacobs, Executive Director, Rabbis for Human Rights-North America
'Provocative, nuanced, and insightful...A brave and very interesting film project. It succeeds in presenting intense battles over Jewish identity. The authors give voice to prominent Jewish secular and religious leaders and opinion-makers for both sides of the debate...Suitable for those interested in Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Jewish identity, political anthropology, peace and conflict studies and family communication.' Dobroslawa Wiktor-Mach, Cracow University of Economics (Poland), Anthropology Reviews Online
'Thought-provoking...Provide[s] an engaging forum for addressing these weighty matters...Ask[s] tough questions about the future of American Jewry...A must-see for anyone interested in continuing the conversation.' Amy Weiss, New York University, American Jewish Archives Journal
'Probing...Filmed in the U.S. and Israel, the production thoughtfully explores complicated and vital issues relevant to the Jewish community.' Booklist
'A choice pick of multiple film festivals...Between Two Worlds is a close and critical examination of morals, ethics, religious and cultural identity, and what it truly means to have a dialogue about all these things, and is worthy of the highest recommendation especially for high school, college, and public library collections.' The Midwest Book Review
'The film's graceful, seamless, thoroughly engaging blend of family and communal history is sure to stimulate thousands of provocative conversations about the challenges of Jewish identity in the post-Holocaust era.' Letty Cottin Pogrebin, Author and Founding Editor, Ms. Magazine
'One of the best films I've ever seen about the contradictions of American Jewish life.' Peter Beinart, Author and Journalist
'Few if any films deal so directly with the dilemmas confronting American Jews today...It behooves those Jewish and non to witness this film and decide which side you're on.' Ed Asner, Actor, former President, Screen Actors Guild
'Remarkable...fearless...Between Two Worlds is often shockingly personal, placing issues of historic and global dimension in the context of the lives and words of individuals.' Bradley Burston, Columnist, Ha'aretz
'Provocative...Address[es] a vast array of personal and political themes, from the community's anxieties over assimilation, to intermarriage, to post-Holocaust anti-Semitism...There are clearly no easy solutions.' Eleanor Bader, Truthout
'Between Two Worlds is at once a film about freedom of speech and about the ethical questions facing Jews today. Appeal is not limited to Jewish audiences...the tendency to totalize issues is a global one...The value of the film will be in the conversations it sparks.' Sound on Sight, Toronto
'The film's most powerful sequence shows Snitow's exploration of his mother's membership in the Communist Party...She refused, her son says, to believe reports about the purges and gulag, but finally left the Party over the 1939 Soviet-Nazi Pact...Snitow expresses discomfort with the purge, and with leftwing groups that 'intimidate dissent in the name of liberation.' As you watch, you'll feel compelled to ask whether you have ever pushed facts or questions aside to keep your ideals uncomplicated.' Gershom Gorenberg, The American Prospect
'A forceful work that draws power by raising questions that don't find any neat resolutions.' The Jewish Daily Forward
'[T]he movie seems to suggest that the belief in ideals is a beautiful thing, but the consequences on the ground of those ideals don't always remain the same over time, and require flexible rather than fixed - and certainly not knee-jerk - responses. Snitow and Kaufman juxtapose respect with criticism, and provide a model we'd do well to follow.' Lisa Katz, Ha'aretz
'It's enough to make your head spin but these filmmakers went at it without boundaries or filters. Private-shmivate. The couple laid their own lives bare in order to uncover the truth of the American Jewish experience, in the media and around the dinner table.' Leigh Cuen, New Voices, the national Jewish student magazine
'It should be difficult for a film to capture the impossibility of talk, the breakdown of communication, but Kaufman and Snitow handle the task with masterful subtlety.' Liel Leibovitz, Tablet Magazine
'[A] powerful new documentary...the talented and award-winning filmmakers take on the arduous task of tackling several loaded questions that are not easy to answer_great moments of great potency and passion_it will likely get your blood circulating.' Alan Zeittlin, NYBLUEPRINT
'Allergic to any political movements grounded in moral absolutes, whether of the left or the right, the filmmakers ponder the fate of a young, increasingly diverse Jewish community, the possible solutions to an occupation they both oppose and, perhaps most pressing, what one interview subject calls the 'neo-McCarthyism' that dismisses any criticism of Israeli foreign policy as anti-Semitic.' Andrew Schenker, Village Voice
'[T]he difference between [interviewees] seems to be a difference between two worlds, so separate and intractable as to seem irreconcilable...the film submits [that] Jewish communities, like Gandhi, the Dalai Lama, and Martin Luther King, Jr., are still watching, waiting, and dreaming.' Cynthia Fuchs, PopMatters
'This is an important - and timely - work, something that deserves to be seen widely and debated in the Jewish community. BETWEEN TWO WORLDS reminds us that we need to rethink, retool, not just for Israel's sake but for our own.' Theodore Bikel
Citation
Main credits
Snitow, Alan (film producer)
Snitow, Alan (film director)
Kaufman, Deborah (film producer)
Kaufman, Deborah (film director)
Other credits
Principal cinematography, Marsha Kahm; editor, Kenji Yamamoto; music, Fred Frith; principal sound, Philip Perkins.
Distributor subjects
Activism; American Studies; Anthropology; Citizenship and Civics; Community; Conflict Resolution; Ethics; Ethnic Studies; History; Human Rights; Jewish Studies; Middle Eastern Studies; Political Science; Religion; Social Justice; SociologyKeywords
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[mellow guitar music]
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- In 1981, I started the first
Jewish Film Festival in America
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here in San Francisco.
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Today there are dozens
all over the world.
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When I started,
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young Jews were rebelling
against Hollywood stereotypes,
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making films about everything,
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a wild variety of stories.
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Audiences were excited
and wanted to talk endlessly.
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It was fun
and full of passionate debate.
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- I first met Deborah when
she was starting the festival.
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I was a TV news producer,
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and our conversations
about Jewish identity,
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politics, and movies
never stopped,
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deepening over the years
into love
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and eventually filmmaking.
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- Alan and I
still return faithfully
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to the festival every year.
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Today it attracts 35,000 people.
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Many consider it one of their
favorite Jewish holidays.
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[cheers and applause]
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- Thank you for coming.
Good afternoon.
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I\'m Peter Stein.
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I\'m the executive director
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of the San Francisco
Jewish Film Festival.
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[cheers and applause]
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I always say when people say,
\"What makes a Jewish film?\"
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one of my answers is,
if it catalyzes a conversation
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that can be had fruitfully
and intelligently
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in a Jewish context,
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then it\'s worth showing.
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- But this time,
the festival showed one film
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that escalated the conversation
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to angry confrontation
and even civil war.
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It took us by surprise
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and sent us on a journey
to find out
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what\'s ripping
our community apart.
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And it made us delve
into our own family histories
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and secrets.
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- Have you seen the movie?
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- No.
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- Are you gonna go in
and see it?
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- Absolutely not.
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- The film at the center
of the battle
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was about Rachel Corrie,
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a young American activist
who went to Gaza
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to protest Israel\'s demolition
of Palestinian homes.
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She was crushed to death
by an Israeli bulldozer
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and became a martyr
for a wide spectrum of groups
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critical of Israel
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and the occupation
of Palestinian territories.
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- I knew right away that
programming the film \"Rachel\"
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was a bit of a risk
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that posed some difficult ideas
about Israel.
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I did not expect it to blow up
into the firestorm that it did.
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I started seeing stuff
flying across my computer screen
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that was really hateful.
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It was a campaign
basically saying
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\"You\'re staging
an anti-Semitic event.
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\"You are an anti-Semite.
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You are a useful fool.\"
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I think a lot of people
saw the festival
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as somehow being
the tool of forces
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that wish to undermine Israel.
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You know,
what do you say to that?
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A festival that presented
36 films from Israel this year,
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one of the largest showcases
of Israeli film in the country,
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is somehow there to undermine
the state of Israel?
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It\'s thought police
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in a way that I have not
experienced before.
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- It was a siege,
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much worse than anything
when I was at the festival.
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There was some hate mail then,
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but nothing like
this coordinated deluge
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of internet rage
from all over the world.
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- I\'m really disappointed
with the festival\'s decision
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to show this film.
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These do not reflect
my Jewish values,
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and these are outside
of the tent of involvement
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for the Jewish community.
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They should be.
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- You see, the thing is,
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who\'s defining
what is anti-Israel?
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Who\'s defining
what\'s anti-Semitic?
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- We define as anti-Semitism
is Natan Sharansky\'s \"three Ds\".
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- Which are?
- Does it delegitimize Israel?
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Does it demonize Israel?
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Is there a double standard
that only Israel is held to?
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I don\'t feel like
Community Federation funds
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should be used to support
anti-Israel programs.
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- The Jewish Federation
funds scores of projects
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and programs and organizations
like the film festival.
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We became the target of these
virulent email campaigns,
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and they were
personally attacking me
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and the Jewish Federation.
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People were saying, you know,
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\"If you don\'t publicly denounce
the film festival
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\"and stop the film
from being shown
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\"and cut all ties
to the film festival,
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\"we\'ll stop giving
to Federation,
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\"and we\'ll organize
everyone we know
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to stop giving
to Federation.\"
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- Now, of course, these are not
only unreasonable but absurd.
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We don\'t control
the organizations
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that are part of the community.
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- Weeks of email frenzy
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had whipped up
an us-them atmosphere.
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So walking into that theater,
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you knew that there was
a charged atmosphere.
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- Today\'s screening
has become a lightning rod
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for a tremendous deal
of controversy
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over whether it is appropriate
for a Jewish film festival
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to screen subject matter
that is critical
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of some Israeli government
actions or policies
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and to hear from speakers
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who may hold unpopular
or critical views.
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We must all acknowledge
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that the screening
of the film \"Rachel\"
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has hit a very raw nerve
among some in our community,
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even those
who have not seen the film.
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[scattered laughter]
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We are not afraid
to hear their opinions,
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and, in fact,
we invited someone here
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to share them with you
by way of being utterly candid
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about the controversy
surrounding our screening.
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- All of us here know that
Rachel Corrie tragically died
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when she intentionally
put herself in harm\'s way
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during an IDF
counterterrorism operation
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in the Gaza strip.
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[audience booing and hissing]
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- Get off the stage!
You\'re not welcome!
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- Shut up!
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- You need to be respectful.
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Please, let him finish.
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- A Jewish film festival
should not be presenting a film
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and speaker that demonize Israel
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and that are being...
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[audience boos]
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[people shouting]
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- Sieg Heil!
Siege Heil!
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- Folks, I-I...
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I gave a warning at the
beginning that each element...
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I was really dismayed
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by the audience reaction
that afternoon
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despite my attempts
to quell the heckles.
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In addition,
Dr. Harris stirred up anger.
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It was a...
It was a willful provocation.
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- It was a very,
very divisive atmosphere.
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[voices overlapping]
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- Let him talk.
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- I was sad and frustrated
by what I saw.
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The festival\'s unique space
for conversation
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was being used by extremists
on both sides
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to vent their anger
at one another.
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- The thing
that disturbed me was,
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the event was certain
to be used as fuel
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for a backlash against
all critics of Israel.
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It made us wonder who\'s entitled
to speak for a community
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and who can claim
to be the voice of the Jews.
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- I\'m John Rothmann,
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talk show host
on KGO news talk radio
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in San Francisco.
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As one who has been
actively involved
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in the Jewish community
for many years,
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what I saw
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and what you will see
on this video,
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should shock you, disturb you,
and cause you to react.
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This year is not the first time
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that the San Francisco
Jewish Film Festival
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has crossed the line.
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The festival has no problem
presenting movies
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which demonize Israel
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and sympathize with those
who participate in terror.
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The audience
was packed with extremists
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who relentlessly heckled
the sole pro-Israel speaker.
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The continued support
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of the San Francisco
Jewish Film Festival
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by mainstream organizations
such as the Jewish Federation
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legitimize radical
anti-Israel groups
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that support Hamas terror.
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- We have never,
nor will we now,
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begin to act
as a community censor.
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We\'re all grownups
in this community.
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This group had appointed itself
the sole arbiter
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of what was sufficiently
pro-Israel
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and sufficiently appropriate
for the Jewish community.
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There is no sole arbiter.
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We don\'t have a pope
in the Jewish community.
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What is alien
to Jewish community is this
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I\'ll call it almost
a neo-McCarthyism
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where one group says
that it is the determiner
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of what is appropriate
for community debate.
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- Soon after we interviewed him,
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Daniel Sokatch
left the Federation,
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which then dramatically
changed course
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by threatening to cut funds
to community organizations
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if they hosted controversial
speakers and debates.
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- Suddenly, people we knew
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were afraid
to speak their minds,
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worried they would be
blacklisted,
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lose their funding
or their jobs.
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- It\'s a chilling effect.
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It\'s a great concern,
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not just for me as a programmer
or leading an organization
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but for any organization
or group
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whose business it is
to cultivate conversations.
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If you start saying, \"Well,
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I\'m not sure we can really
have that conversation,\"
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then the critics have won.
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[dramatic music]
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- And a good Monday evening
to you.
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I am John Rothmann.
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Delighted to be with you
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right here on KGO Newstalk 810
every weeknight.
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The tentacles of radical Islam
are real and vital and alive.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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let\'s talk about it right here
on the John Rothmann program.
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808-0810.
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- The level of anger seemed
to be a few notches higher
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than it had ever been.
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- The anger came from the fact
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that when
a Jewish community event,
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which the film festival is,
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funded in part
by the Federation,
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permits a program to go forward
in which divestment,
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cuts in aid to Israel,
and boycott
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is permitted
to go unchallenged...
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If I had been Peter Stein,
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I would have stood up
on the stage
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and said that is not
the position
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of the film festival.
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We oppose this unconditionally.
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We are part
of the Jewish community.
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- The director
of a film festival
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doesn\'t have to get up onstage
and take...
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- He was on the stage.
- No, but...
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- He was...
He was on the stage.
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- It\'s not the job
of a festival director
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to say what
their political position
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on Israel in terms of...
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- I don\'t... I don\'t...
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- Aid or divestment.
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That is way beyond what is
expected of a festival director.
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- Okay, but then it is,
I believe...
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- Increasingly, the only
question that is being asked
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in many institutional
Jewish settings is,
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do you love Israel
unconditionally?
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All: [singing]
We shall not be moved
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End the occupation
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We shall not be moved
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- We first heard
of Jewish Voice for Peace
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when its members sat in
at the Israeli consulate
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in San Francisco.
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JVP often helped the
film festival promote movies,
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including \"Rachel.\"
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But what made John Rothmann
and others
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want to banish the group
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was its support
for divestment from Israel.
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- Sure, sure.
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And then we\'ll talk about that.
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- We vehemently, vehemently
support the right of people
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to engage
in all aspects of boycott,
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divestment, and sanctions
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that are legal,
that are nonviolent.
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We feel that
nonviolent resistance
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is exactly what needs to happen
to help end the occupation.
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It is so disturbing to me
that there are people
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who think that the fight
for justice and basic equality
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is in any way anti-Jewish
or anti-Israel.
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We are fighting
for fundamental equality.
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That is at the heart of Jewish
identity for so many of us.
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But the line for inclusion
in the Jewish community
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is becoming more narrow
by the day.
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- What happened at the festival
made me wonder
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who gets to decide
what being Jewish is and isn\'t.
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Do Deborah and I count
as being Jewish enough?
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And what about our kids?
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- For as along
as I can remember,
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Jewish leaders
have been in a panic
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about the next generation.
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They\'re afraid
not only of radical politics
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but of alternative lifestyles
and declining birthrates.
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Intermarriage, assimilation,
and the changing role of women
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bring debates
about the Jewish future
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right into our families.
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- The truth is that
the American Jewish community
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is now divided between those
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who are prepared
to accept anyone
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who self-identifies as a Jew
as being Jewish
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and those sectors
of the community
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that adhere to the traditional
rabbinic understanding,
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which is that one needs to be
descended from a Jewish mother.
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- Where do you
come down on this?
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- I identify
with traditional Judaism.
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- [chanting in Hebrew]
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- I\'m a re-interpreter.
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Judaism has always changed
and grown
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in each civilization it has met,
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and I see no reason why
our present moment is different.
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Belief isn\'t the point.
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Relationship, connection,
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dialogue, conversation,
commitment is the point.
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- There are aspects
of Jewish life
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that I am quite
pessimistic about.
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I feel that
the American Jewish community
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is a shrinking Jewish community.
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Quantity counts when it comes
to political strength.
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Quantity counts for status.
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Quantity counts for security.
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- When I was
a rabbinical student,
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I had a professor
who was dearly beloved to me
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say to our entire class
of young rabbinical students
00:15:53.133 --> 00:15:57.032
that we should all go out
and have babies,
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have at least three,
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and do it sooner
rather than later,
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and as a twentysomething,
I found this invasive.
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- I would be really surprised
if anybody actually decided
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solely to have a baby
to bolster the Jewish people.
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I mean, that\'s a fascinating way
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of making
the political personal.
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People want to feel valued
for being their individual self
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and not valued only for their
ability to marry another Jew
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and then create a Jewish family
00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:36.166
and a Jewish home and more Jews.
00:16:36.167 --> 00:16:40.699
[percussive music]
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[crowd cheering]
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- For me, one of the most
extreme attempts
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to keep young Jews in the fold
is a program called Birthright.
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Philanthropists have spent
$1/2 billion
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to send thousands of young Jews
on free trips to Israel
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in the hope that a ten-day
exposure to the holy land
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will strengthen
their Jewish identity
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and produce Jewish babies.
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- [singing in Hebrew]
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[rock music]
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- The alumni have started
to call it not \"Birthright\"
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but \"Birthrate.\"
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- \"Come to this
free cocktail hour,
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go to this free trip,\"
00:17:36.500 --> 00:17:38.299
to me, sends the message,
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\"There isn\'t inherent value
in these things.
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We have to pay you
or bribe you to do them.\"
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And the second is that,
\"We are responsible to you.
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You are not responsible
to the community.\"
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- I\'ve seen the drift away
from the Jewish community
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inside my own family.
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Here we are gathered
for my father\'s funeral.
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He was 93
00:18:05.933 --> 00:18:09.166
and grandfather to three Jews,
five Muslims,
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and one Jewish Unitarian.
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Over the years,
like other Jewish families,
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we had our own continuity crisis
00:18:17.667 --> 00:18:19.999
that challenged
our close family ties
00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:22.400
and our loyalty
to our much-loved father.
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My father was a passionate
Zionist his whole life.
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It began when he was a Jewish
Boy Scout in Vienna,
00:18:31.467 --> 00:18:34.266
fighting anti-Semitic
brown shirts on the streets
00:18:34.267 --> 00:18:37.067
and at the grave of the
Zionist leader Theodore Herzl.
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Here he is, 22 years old,
with his Vienna scout leader
00:18:44.867 --> 00:18:46.500
when they met up in Palestine.
00:18:49.633 --> 00:18:53.099
To many visitors, it looked
like a colonial backwater,
00:18:53.100 --> 00:18:54.566
but for my father,
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it held the hope of
revolutionary change for Jews.
00:18:59.067 --> 00:19:03.166
He fervently believed the only
answer to European anti-Semitism
00:19:03.167 --> 00:19:05.267
was a strong Jewish nation.
00:19:15.067 --> 00:19:17.766
My father was
one of the American troops
00:19:17.767 --> 00:19:21.199
to liberate the concentration
camp at Buchenwald,
00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:23.966
and so this is
some of the memorabilia
00:19:23.967 --> 00:19:27.300
and the photos he took
when he was there.
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He was treating the liberated
prisoners from Buchenwald
00:19:39.900 --> 00:19:42.367
at the hospital in Koelleda.
00:19:43.333 --> 00:19:44.599
He ran the hos...
00:19:44.600 --> 00:19:46.567
He didn\'t just treat them;
he ran the hospital.
00:19:55.100 --> 00:19:57.199
In the chaos
of the war\'s aftermath,
00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:00.332
my father smuggled survivors
and stolen munitions
00:20:00.333 --> 00:20:02.267
to what was then Palestine.
00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:10.532
His wartime experiences
left a lasting mark.
00:20:10.533 --> 00:20:13.099
Back home in America,
he became a leader
00:20:13.100 --> 00:20:15.632
of the Zionist Organization
of America
00:20:15.633 --> 00:20:17.799
when it was a small
and militant group
00:20:17.800 --> 00:20:20.100
in a sea
of postwar assimilation.
00:20:21.933 --> 00:20:25.100
But the Jewish future
he envisioned was elusive.
00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:30.866
- Do you fear for Judaism?
00:20:30.867 --> 00:20:32.366
- Do I fear for it?
00:20:32.367 --> 00:20:34.032
Yes, I do.
00:20:34.033 --> 00:20:39.166
Well, I think that the
Jewish community is in danger
00:20:39.167 --> 00:20:40.832
at the present time
00:20:40.833 --> 00:20:45.232
as a result
of a number of things,
00:20:45.233 --> 00:20:47.066
of the demographic...
00:20:47.067 --> 00:20:51.200
- Danger was all around,
especially inside the family.
00:20:52.900 --> 00:20:55.632
When I was a teenager,
my mother followed her passions
00:20:55.633 --> 00:20:56.966
and moved to Jerusalem
00:20:56.967 --> 00:21:00.600
to pursue a new life
as a poet and translator.
00:21:01.567 --> 00:21:03.566
The Vietnam War was raging,
00:21:03.567 --> 00:21:06.366
the counterculture
was in full swing.
00:21:06.367 --> 00:21:08.266
My conservative pro-war Dad
00:21:08.267 --> 00:21:10.632
was left to deal
with his crazy daughters,
00:21:10.633 --> 00:21:13.033
Tevye\'s girls gone wild.
00:21:14.733 --> 00:21:17.066
How could he
possibly understand,
00:21:17.067 --> 00:21:20.200
much less accept,
his daughters\' strange choices?
00:21:21.433 --> 00:21:24.899
My rebel politics
were a shock to his system.
00:21:24.900 --> 00:21:28.666
His little Mezhinka,
now a political prisoner,
00:21:28.667 --> 00:21:30.332
arrested in solidarity
00:21:30.333 --> 00:21:32.667
with Third World
liberation movements.
00:21:35.300 --> 00:21:38.533
Then, the world collapsed
under his feet.
00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:41.599
When she was in her 20s,
00:21:41.600 --> 00:21:43.900
one of my sisters
converted to Islam.
00:21:46.233 --> 00:21:49.266
How could my father,
a secular Jewish Zionist,
00:21:49.267 --> 00:21:51.632
possibly relate to her new life
00:21:51.633 --> 00:21:53.500
as a religiously observant
Muslim?
00:21:55.967 --> 00:21:59.732
Sorrow and anguish pursued him,
and he once told me,
00:21:59.733 --> 00:22:03.267
\"The regrets I have
are as high as a mountain.\"
00:22:18.633 --> 00:22:23.099
It was deeply painful for him
to accept generational change,
00:22:23.100 --> 00:22:25.999
that his grandchildren
were of different faiths.
00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:28.332
But in the end, for my father,
00:22:28.333 --> 00:22:33.567
family unity came first,
before Jewish tribe or religion.
00:22:38.467 --> 00:22:44.467
- [singing in Yiddish]
00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:49.999
- It was his final
and greatest gift to us,
00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:51.566
his acceptance of change,
00:22:51.567 --> 00:22:53.999
his blessing to each of us,
00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:55.766
his diverse family.
00:22:55.767 --> 00:22:59.732
- [singing in Yiddish]
00:22:59.733 --> 00:23:03.566
[laughter]
00:23:03.567 --> 00:23:05.932
- But even now,
with the passing of time,
00:23:05.933 --> 00:23:08.799
I can still
feel his heart being torn
00:23:08.800 --> 00:23:11.466
between his love
for his wayward children
00:23:11.467 --> 00:23:14.067
and his passionately held
lifelong beliefs.
00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:21.000
[all singing]
00:23:33.967 --> 00:23:36.433
Some of us
are leaving the tribe.
00:23:38.767 --> 00:23:40.132
Some of us are staying
00:23:40.133 --> 00:23:43.866
and redefining what it means
to be a Jew.
00:23:43.867 --> 00:23:46.466
Each tribe has its traditions,
00:23:46.467 --> 00:23:51.299
but every tradition
was at one time an innovation,
00:23:51.300 --> 00:23:52.566
and I have come to see that
00:23:52.567 --> 00:23:55.999
the boundaries and values
of the tribe
00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.000
are in constant movement.
00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:10.466
- Right before he died,
00:24:10.467 --> 00:24:14.532
I asked Bernie how much he still
thinks about the Holocaust.
00:24:14.533 --> 00:24:17.567
He told me he had nightmares
every night.
00:24:21.100 --> 00:24:22.866
When I used to produce TV news,
00:24:22.867 --> 00:24:26.199
I saw how memory could be
short as the news cycle.
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.032
Some memories get dropped
as too complex or inconvenient.
00:24:30.033 --> 00:24:32.999
Others get magnified
for political effect.
00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:36.432
But who gets to draw the lessons
of the Holocaust for today,
00:24:36.433 --> 00:24:38.233
and what are those lessons?
00:24:40.100 --> 00:24:43.632
- We live with the memory
of the Holocaust
00:24:43.633 --> 00:24:45.832
because the memory
of the Holocaust
00:24:45.833 --> 00:24:47.667
still lives in our world.
00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:53.099
- We visited Rabbi Hier\'s Museum
of Tolerance in Los Angeles
00:24:53.100 --> 00:24:54.899
because it\'s
a leading institution
00:24:54.900 --> 00:24:57.032
teaching lessons
of the Holocaust,
00:24:57.033 --> 00:24:58.332
the need for tolerance,
00:24:58.333 --> 00:25:00.367
and vigilance
against future threats.
00:25:02.533 --> 00:25:04.832
- We need to remember
those events
00:25:04.833 --> 00:25:08.932
so that the next time it occurs,
we will do better.
00:25:08.933 --> 00:25:10.533
We will have learned our lesson.
00:25:12.367 --> 00:25:15.932
When they come to a museum
and they actually experience...
00:25:15.933 --> 00:25:18.899
Listen to the firsthand
testimony of survivors
00:25:18.900 --> 00:25:22.732
in an environment
that represents what occurred,
00:25:22.733 --> 00:25:23.899
in three hours,
00:25:23.900 --> 00:25:26.299
it can have a tremendous impact
on their life.
00:25:26.300 --> 00:25:28.466
- Poland, September 1939...
00:25:28.467 --> 00:25:30.066
- And they listen
to the testimony
00:25:30.067 --> 00:25:34.266
in what looks like a gas chamber
and cry.
00:25:34.267 --> 00:25:36.399
And you know,
that\'s a good thing,
00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:40.266
because it\'s something
that I think they will remember.
00:25:40.267 --> 00:25:41.866
- The men were often sent
to work camps...
00:25:41.867 --> 00:25:44.966
- 90% of all of our visitors
are non-Jews.
00:25:44.967 --> 00:25:50.432
The impact is profound
and maybe will play a role in...
00:25:50.433 --> 00:25:54.666
A significant role in how
they view life in the future,
00:25:54.667 --> 00:25:57.867
and that\'s what we want to do,
impact the younger generation.
00:25:59.233 --> 00:26:02.099
- When we joined young people
visiting the museum,
00:26:02.100 --> 00:26:04.433
we wondered what message
they take home with them.
00:26:05.667 --> 00:26:08.199
Is it about the dangers
of anti-Semitism,
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:11.132
about how bad it is
to be the victim?
00:26:11.133 --> 00:26:13.732
Or is it about our fascination
and susceptibility
00:26:13.733 --> 00:26:15.099
to great evil?
00:26:15.100 --> 00:26:17.200
Do they learn something
about themselves?
00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:21.599
- Abroad,
the German war machine...
00:26:21.600 --> 00:26:24.132
- The long, enduring message
of the Holocaust
00:26:24.133 --> 00:26:26.699
is one of the things
that\'s contested now.
00:26:26.700 --> 00:26:31.432
The Holocaust for the first two
generations post-Holocaust,
00:26:31.433 --> 00:26:32.566
let\'s be clear,
00:26:32.567 --> 00:26:36.032
replaced the Exodus
as the orienting myth,
00:26:36.033 --> 00:26:38.766
as the master narrative,
as the orienting story.
00:26:38.767 --> 00:26:40.866
The story of the Exodus
00:26:40.867 --> 00:26:42.866
and the reason it became
the orienting story
00:26:42.867 --> 00:26:43.932
for the Jewish people
00:26:43.933 --> 00:26:46.199
and for a lot
of Western civilization
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:48.566
was not because of the slavery.
00:26:48.567 --> 00:26:50.432
It\'s not called
the slavery story.
00:26:50.433 --> 00:26:52.932
It\'s called the Exodus story.
00:26:52.933 --> 00:26:54.999
In Hebrew it\'s called
\"Yetziat Mitzrayim,\"
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:56.966
\"the going out of Egypt.\"
00:26:56.967 --> 00:26:59.499
It\'s a story of freedom
and liberation
00:26:59.500 --> 00:27:01.632
and salvation and redemption.
00:27:01.633 --> 00:27:04.666
- So long as there\'s
Ahmadinejad,
00:27:04.667 --> 00:27:08.766
so long as we have terrorism,
Hamas, and Hezbollah,
00:27:08.767 --> 00:27:10.232
and so long as their goal
00:27:10.233 --> 00:27:12.899
is to obliterate
the state of Israel,
00:27:12.900 --> 00:27:15.932
nothing has changed
from the Holocaust,
00:27:15.933 --> 00:27:19.266
except then it was Hitler,
who got away with it,
00:27:19.267 --> 00:27:21.299
and now it is a few people who,
00:27:21.300 --> 00:27:23.132
if we let them on their own,
00:27:23.133 --> 00:27:25.232
will try
to get away with it again.
00:27:25.233 --> 00:27:27.466
- The most dangerous thing
about holocausts,
00:27:27.467 --> 00:27:31.499
the most dangerous thing
about being abused,
00:27:31.500 --> 00:27:34.432
is that what you\'re going to do
is abuse others.
00:27:34.433 --> 00:27:37.999
You are going to lose a
fundamental trust in the world,
00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:40.532
and because of that,
you\'re going to go small,
00:27:40.533 --> 00:27:42.799
you\'re going to go tribal,
you\'re going to go insular,
00:27:42.800 --> 00:27:45.132
and you\'re going to look
at everybody, no matter what,
00:27:45.133 --> 00:27:47.232
through the prism
that they are my enemy.
00:27:47.233 --> 00:27:49.199
- History has taught us,
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:52.432
you can\'t take a chance
on an idea
00:27:52.433 --> 00:27:54.899
that we are only a religion.
00:27:54.900 --> 00:27:56.366
We should have the right,
00:27:56.367 --> 00:27:59.199
like every other religion
and people.
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.299
Christians have countries,
and they have their religion.
00:28:02.300 --> 00:28:03.499
Islam?
00:28:03.500 --> 00:28:06.432
People are Muslims,
and they have territory.
00:28:06.433 --> 00:28:08.466
Jews should have a religion,
00:28:08.467 --> 00:28:11.066
and they should have
a national identity
00:28:11.067 --> 00:28:12.866
in the state of Israel.
00:28:12.867 --> 00:28:14.599
And if you ask me why,
00:28:14.600 --> 00:28:16.867
I would say Hitler
would be one good reason.
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:22.799
- Rabbi Hier hopes to raise
$250 million
00:28:22.800 --> 00:28:24.266
from American donors
00:28:24.267 --> 00:28:26.399
to complete a new
Museum of Tolerance
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:28.933
in downtown Jerusalem.
00:28:32.733 --> 00:28:34.766
- We have
a special responsibility
00:28:34.767 --> 00:28:36.066
to teach tolerance.
00:28:36.067 --> 00:28:37.199
Why?
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:38.899
Because perhaps we have been
00:28:38.900 --> 00:28:42.632
history\'s principle victims
of intolerance.
00:28:42.633 --> 00:28:45.232
And that\'s the purpose
of the museum there.
00:28:45.233 --> 00:28:49.166
For Jerusalem, it will be
a very important project
00:28:49.167 --> 00:28:51.466
The land was given to us
by the government of Israel
00:28:51.467 --> 00:28:53.000
and the city of Jerusalem.
00:28:57.133 --> 00:28:59.799
- There\'s just one problem.
00:28:59.800 --> 00:29:02.232
This tolerance museum
is being built
00:29:02.233 --> 00:29:06.733
on part of Jerusalem\'s historic
800-year-old Muslim cemetery.
00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:10.132
- I met one of the workers there
00:29:10.133 --> 00:29:12.366
who told me that they were
digging up bones
00:29:12.367 --> 00:29:13.833
and they were putting them
in boxes.
00:29:15.333 --> 00:29:19.632
More than 2,000 skeletons
were dug up and put into boxes
00:29:19.633 --> 00:29:21.766
by the Israel Antiquities
Authority.
00:29:21.767 --> 00:29:25.166
I went over to the site
to see what was going on.
00:29:25.167 --> 00:29:28.666
It was all fenced in,
and I couldn\'t really see.
00:29:28.667 --> 00:29:30.832
I was just amazed,
and I wrote an article.
00:29:30.833 --> 00:29:33.132
It probably went to
a few hundred thousand people.
00:29:33.133 --> 00:29:34.832
And I asked people
to write letters
00:29:34.833 --> 00:29:37.366
to the Wiesenthal Center
in Los Angeles
00:29:37.367 --> 00:29:39.233
saying that
this should not be done.
00:29:40.367 --> 00:29:43.466
The Wiesenthal Center
got the license to build here
00:29:43.467 --> 00:29:45.599
according to the law.
00:29:45.600 --> 00:29:47.132
But this is not a legal issue.
00:29:47.133 --> 00:29:48.399
This is a moral issue.
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:49.699
This is a political issue.
00:29:49.700 --> 00:29:52.499
And this, by the way, you guys,
as Americans,
00:29:52.500 --> 00:29:54.299
have something
to say about it too,
00:29:54.300 --> 00:29:57.066
because the Wiesenthal Center
is an American institution.
00:29:57.067 --> 00:29:58.799
It\'s not an Israeli institution.
00:29:58.800 --> 00:30:03.632
But we\'re importing this
from Los Angeles.
00:30:03.633 --> 00:30:06.966
Allowing this Wiesenthal Center
Museum of Tolerance
00:30:06.967 --> 00:30:10.766
to be built on top of
a Muslim cemetery in Jerusalem
00:30:10.767 --> 00:30:15.133
destroys the hope that Jerusalem
can be a city of peace.
00:30:38.833 --> 00:30:40.533
Look at this one.
00:30:42.967 --> 00:30:43.967
- This is the name:
00:30:43.968 --> 00:30:48.232
Raisa Ben Awad al Koran,
died on...
00:30:48.233 --> 00:30:52.099
Died in tenth of Ramadan,
00:30:52.100 --> 00:30:54.333
the year 1347.
00:30:59.033 --> 00:31:01.732
- Holocaust memory
has become very political,
00:31:01.733 --> 00:31:03.432
and we invoke
memory of Holocaust
00:31:03.433 --> 00:31:08.032
to justify almost anything
that we\'re doing.
00:31:08.033 --> 00:31:09.732
I believe that the Holocaust
00:31:09.733 --> 00:31:12.032
is not the center
of our identity.
00:31:12.033 --> 00:31:14.299
The center of our identity
is the moral code
00:31:14.300 --> 00:31:15.632
that we have been brought up,
00:31:15.633 --> 00:31:17.866
which is the heart
of what Jewish traditions
00:31:17.867 --> 00:31:19.067
and values teach us.
00:31:21.800 --> 00:31:26.099
We see how the cemetery
is not cared for.
00:31:26.100 --> 00:31:30.199
The Israeli authorities have not
allowed the Muslim authorities
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.366
to come in here
and take care of the cemetery.
00:31:32.367 --> 00:31:35.766
So we see a great deal
of broken graves,
00:31:35.767 --> 00:31:38.066
of a cemetery
which has been left alone.
00:31:38.067 --> 00:31:39.333
That\'s how it appears.
00:31:42.333 --> 00:31:44.099
- What\'s painful in all of this
00:31:44.100 --> 00:31:46.999
is that one of the principles
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.399
that should guide
the peace process
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.932
is the issue of the respect
of the religious sites
00:31:51.933 --> 00:31:54.000
of both sides
in their territories.
00:31:55.567 --> 00:31:59.432
We need an expert
in handwriting.
00:31:59.433 --> 00:32:00.732
- But in the Middle East,
00:32:00.733 --> 00:32:02.866
there\'s a long history
of warring peoples
00:32:02.867 --> 00:32:06.599
destroying one another\'s
holy places and graveyards.
00:32:06.600 --> 00:32:09.799
Tolerance is a relatively
new and fragile ideal
00:32:09.800 --> 00:32:11.632
compared to centuries
of religious
00:32:11.633 --> 00:32:13.099
and nationalist wars,
00:32:13.100 --> 00:32:16.132
each justified
by a particular name of God
00:32:16.133 --> 00:32:18.567
or by revenge
for earlier victims.
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.366
- The Jordanians used
Jewish gravestones
00:32:35.367 --> 00:32:38.432
and paved a road over part
of the Jewish cemetery
00:32:38.433 --> 00:32:40.099
in the Mount of Olives,
00:32:40.100 --> 00:32:43.032
and we ask,
do we want that to happen
00:32:43.033 --> 00:32:44.933
to Jewish cemeteries
around the world?
00:32:48.900 --> 00:32:51.199
Every time a Jewish cemetery
is violated
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:52.732
somewhere in the world,
00:32:52.733 --> 00:32:54.766
the Jewish community screams
00:32:54.767 --> 00:32:57.032
because this is disrespect,
00:32:57.033 --> 00:32:59.366
and we call it anti-Semitism.
00:32:59.367 --> 00:33:02.599
We can\'t do it
if we expect the world
00:33:02.600 --> 00:33:05.333
to treat our cemeteries
with respect.
00:33:11.733 --> 00:33:12.999
- A controversy over
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.099
the Simon Wiesenthal Center\'s
project
00:33:15.100 --> 00:33:16.866
to build a Museum of Tolerance
00:33:16.867 --> 00:33:19.766
on a historic Muslim cemetery
in Jerusalem
00:33:19.767 --> 00:33:21.432
has gone all the way
to the United Nations.
00:33:21.433 --> 00:33:22.999
Today families defending
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.799
the 12th-century
Mamilla Cemetery
00:33:25.800 --> 00:33:27.932
from desecration
by Israeli authorities
00:33:27.933 --> 00:33:30.666
filed their case before
the United Nations in Geneva.
00:33:30.667 --> 00:33:31.799
With news conferences...
00:33:31.800 --> 00:33:34.066
- There are 15 families,
60 people,
00:33:34.067 --> 00:33:36.799
who have ancestors
in that cemetery.
00:33:36.800 --> 00:33:38.566
We\'re the petitioners.
00:33:38.567 --> 00:33:41.099
Nobody ever told us where
these remains were reburied.
00:33:41.100 --> 00:33:44.299
I mean, imagine if you had
ancestors in a cemetery
00:33:44.300 --> 00:33:45.632
and somebody came along
and said,
00:33:45.633 --> 00:33:47.132
\"We\'re going to build
whatever it is there,\"
00:33:47.133 --> 00:33:48.466
dug them up
and buried them somewhere else
00:33:48.467 --> 00:33:50.132
without telling you where.
00:33:50.133 --> 00:33:53.799
- This was dealt with by
the highest judicial authority
00:33:53.800 --> 00:33:55.032
in the land of Israel,
00:33:55.033 --> 00:33:58.432
not noted to be
a conservative court,
00:33:58.433 --> 00:34:01.866
known to be extremely
a liberal court.
00:34:01.867 --> 00:34:04.599
They looked into the whole
history of this question,
00:34:04.600 --> 00:34:08.899
and in a unanimous
119-page ruling said,
00:34:08.900 --> 00:34:10.166
\"Go forth.
00:34:10.167 --> 00:34:12.967
All your suggestions
are acceptable to the court.\"
00:34:18.100 --> 00:34:22.632
- We cannot preach to the world
about ethics and morality
00:34:22.633 --> 00:34:26.032
if in our homeland,
in the heart of our homeland,
00:34:26.033 --> 00:34:28.766
in our capital eternal city,
00:34:28.767 --> 00:34:31.433
we go against the very values
that we live by.
00:34:37.667 --> 00:34:38.866
- Throughout our journey,
00:34:38.867 --> 00:34:41.532
we\'ve tried to understand
what are those values?
00:34:41.533 --> 00:34:45.200
And are Jewish values different
in Israel and the United States?
00:34:57.467 --> 00:35:00.532
- In our own country,
many of us believe Jewish values
00:35:00.533 --> 00:35:02.532
explain why
so many American Jews
00:35:02.533 --> 00:35:04.799
consistently support
liberal candidates
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.432
and social movements
like feminism and gay rights,
00:35:08.433 --> 00:35:12.399
causes that go beyond the claims
of narrow self-interest.
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.566
That has frustrated Republicans
00:35:14.567 --> 00:35:18.132
and Jewish neoconservatives
for decades.
00:35:18.133 --> 00:35:20.699
- When I was working
at Progressive Jewish Alliance,
00:35:20.700 --> 00:35:22.132
every couple of years,
00:35:22.133 --> 00:35:24.399
I would be asked
to debate a member
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:28.132
of the Republican Jewish
Committee at election time.
00:35:28.133 --> 00:35:30.899
And every year,
every two years or four years,
00:35:30.900 --> 00:35:33.566
the proposition
that my debate partner
00:35:33.567 --> 00:35:34.666
would bring to the table was,
00:35:34.667 --> 00:35:36.066
\"This year
is going to be different.
00:35:36.067 --> 00:35:37.067
\"You\'ll see.
00:35:37.068 --> 00:35:38.599
\"This year the American Jews
are going to change,
00:35:38.600 --> 00:35:40.232
and they\'re gonna vote
Republican.\"
00:35:40.233 --> 00:35:42.532
Every year, I gladly accepted
the invitation
00:35:42.533 --> 00:35:43.932
to have this conversation,
00:35:43.933 --> 00:35:44.999
because I knew he was wrong,
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:46.267
and every year, he was wrong.
00:35:47.500 --> 00:35:49.999
- The question is, why?
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:51.366
Does Jewish leftism,
00:35:51.367 --> 00:35:54.232
even utopianism,
flow from religious teaching,
00:35:54.233 --> 00:35:57.532
historical circumstance,
family background?
00:35:57.533 --> 00:36:00.332
And do leftwing Jews
betray the tribe
00:36:00.333 --> 00:36:02.999
by pursuing universal values?
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.866
I figured it was finally time
to dig into the family archives
00:36:06.867 --> 00:36:08.799
in deep storage.
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:09.966
[bell dings]
00:36:09.967 --> 00:36:11.967
[door creaking and squeaking]
00:36:13.733 --> 00:36:15.532
Hello.
00:36:15.533 --> 00:36:18.100
My family\'s level
of organization.
00:36:19.033 --> 00:36:21.100
You want to take a look
at that box below it?
00:36:24.733 --> 00:36:27.332
- 57 one, I\'ve found.
00:36:27.333 --> 00:36:29.633
- Do you see anything
of Virginia\'s?
00:36:32.300 --> 00:36:35.166
This is my Mom, Virginia Snitow.
00:36:35.167 --> 00:36:38.166
For a long time, I knew almost
nothing about her early years
00:36:38.167 --> 00:36:40.133
other than her flair
for the dramatic.
00:36:41.333 --> 00:36:44.200
I call this picture
\"The Vegetarian.\"
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.099
Like most kids,
I didn\'t know much
00:36:47.100 --> 00:36:49.466
and didn\'t ask about her past,
00:36:49.467 --> 00:36:52.099
but Mom also
kept some things secret,
00:36:52.100 --> 00:36:54.767
and as I grew older,
my suspicions grew.
00:36:56.100 --> 00:36:58.232
My first clue came
when I was nine.
00:36:58.233 --> 00:37:00.366
We were watching the news.
00:37:00.367 --> 00:37:05.799
- Joseph McCarthy dies
on May 2, 1957.
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:07.199
The cause of death...
00:37:07.200 --> 00:37:08.499
- Mom turned to my Dad
00:37:08.500 --> 00:37:11.766
with a ghoulish look
of satisfaction and said...
00:37:11.767 --> 00:37:14.900
- You know,
I could dance on his grave.
00:37:20.633 --> 00:37:21.899
- What a thing to say
00:37:21.900 --> 00:37:25.632
about the nation\'s freshly dead
investigator of subversion.
00:37:25.633 --> 00:37:27.132
It took me a long time,
00:37:27.133 --> 00:37:29.933
but I finally did
my own interrogation.
00:37:33.600 --> 00:37:35.299
- The question is,
have you ever been a member
00:37:35.300 --> 00:37:36.366
of the Communist Party?
00:37:36.367 --> 00:37:39.232
Are you or have you every been
a member of the Communist Party?
00:37:39.233 --> 00:37:40.799
- Are you now
or have you ever been
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:42.299
a member of the Communist Party?
00:37:42.300 --> 00:37:44.466
- Her answer amazed me.
00:37:44.467 --> 00:37:47.767
- Yes, I was, for 13 years.
00:37:52.067 --> 00:37:53.299
- Nada.
00:37:53.300 --> 00:37:55.499
- What are you looking for?
00:37:55.500 --> 00:37:57.199
- After she died,
00:37:57.200 --> 00:37:59.866
which was just three months
after my father died,
00:37:59.867 --> 00:38:02.332
we stashed a lot of stuff here.
00:38:02.333 --> 00:38:06.866
I thought that there might be
in here some evidence
00:38:06.867 --> 00:38:12.466
of her earlier life
when she was a teacher in Harlem
00:38:12.467 --> 00:38:14.467
and a member
of the Communist Party.
00:38:18.333 --> 00:38:22.032
The 1930s were the heyday
of American communism,
00:38:22.033 --> 00:38:23.033
and in New York,
00:38:23.034 --> 00:38:26.133
well over 50% of communists
were Jews.
00:38:27.133 --> 00:38:29.399
My Mom was one of them.
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:31.632
- She saw a world in chaos.
00:38:31.633 --> 00:38:34.132
All around her,
people weren\'t just unemployed;
00:38:34.133 --> 00:38:37.299
many were actually starving.
00:38:37.300 --> 00:38:40.766
For young Jews hungry
for equality and justice,
00:38:40.767 --> 00:38:43.199
the choices seemed clear-cut.
00:38:43.200 --> 00:38:46.766
- The right-wing alternative was
Hitler and Mussolini in Europe.
00:38:46.767 --> 00:38:47.932
[crowd cheering]
00:38:47.933 --> 00:38:50.166
In the U.S.,
it was a right-wing radio priest
00:38:50.167 --> 00:38:52.332
named Father Charles Coughlin,
00:38:52.333 --> 00:38:54.432
who galvanized
millions of people
00:38:54.433 --> 00:38:57.432
with attacks on Jewish bankers
and Hollywood.
00:38:57.433 --> 00:39:02.567
- Drive the moneychangers
from the temple.
00:39:07.067 --> 00:39:09.332
- Many other non-Jews could turn
to the far right
00:39:09.333 --> 00:39:12.632
as a response
to the Great Depression.
00:39:12.633 --> 00:39:14.932
Jews really could not do that.
00:39:14.933 --> 00:39:16.399
It was too anti-Semitic.
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.499
So the options for Jews are
either liberalism or socialism,
00:39:20.500 --> 00:39:22.867
or some form of communism.
00:39:26.967 --> 00:39:32.166
- For my mother at 22 years old,
the option was communism,
00:39:32.167 --> 00:39:34.199
but her inspiration
came from her job
00:39:34.200 --> 00:39:35.866
as a teacher at Wadleigh,
00:39:35.867 --> 00:39:38.066
an all-girls,
largely African-American
00:39:38.067 --> 00:39:41.232
public high school in Harlem.
00:39:41.233 --> 00:39:43.166
She joined
the radical teachers union
00:39:43.167 --> 00:39:44.532
and organized the first
00:39:44.533 --> 00:39:48.466
black history week
celebrations at school.
00:39:48.467 --> 00:39:51.232
Then, during World War II,
she wrote an article,
00:39:51.233 --> 00:39:53.099
later turned into a radio play,
00:39:53.100 --> 00:39:56.132
about her students\'
humiliation, despair,
00:39:56.133 --> 00:40:00.399
and deep-down rage at the racism
they faced every day.
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:05.032
It starred an unknown
young actress named Ruby Dee.
00:40:05.033 --> 00:40:07.132
- What have I got to do
with this war?
00:40:07.133 --> 00:40:09.599
Hitler, he\'s got the right idea.
00:40:09.600 --> 00:40:11.299
He gives the people guns.
00:40:11.300 --> 00:40:13.299
I\'d like to have a gun too.
00:40:13.300 --> 00:40:14.300
Boy, if I had one,
00:40:14.301 --> 00:40:15.599
there wouldn\'t be
a lot of people
00:40:15.600 --> 00:40:16.867
walking around in this world.
00:40:20.633 --> 00:40:22.766
- Oh, now, here\'s something.
00:40:22.767 --> 00:40:27.432
\"The Russian cookbook
for American Homes,\"
00:40:27.433 --> 00:40:28.866
\"War-Time Edition.\"
00:40:28.867 --> 00:40:31.332
\"Brains with spinach sauce.
00:40:31.333 --> 00:40:33.567
Cold brains with mayonnaise.\"
00:40:34.667 --> 00:40:36.500
[ship\'s horn blows]
00:40:38.100 --> 00:40:39.399
Like a lot of radicals,
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:41.532
my mother gravitated
to one country
00:40:41.533 --> 00:40:43.666
that seemed like an alternative.
00:40:43.667 --> 00:40:46.666
- [speaking Russian]
00:40:46.667 --> 00:40:48.799
- In 1936, just eight months
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:50.899
after marrying my father,
Charles,
00:40:50.900 --> 00:40:54.366
she was off, traveling
on her own to the Soviet Union
00:40:54.367 --> 00:40:56.100
to see the future for herself.
00:41:03.900 --> 00:41:07.366
I uncovered just one
fragmentary piece of evidence,
00:41:07.367 --> 00:41:09.799
but it is enough.
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:11.932
- \"Dearest sweetheart,
00:41:11.933 --> 00:41:13.999
\"I am now in Kharkov.
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.699
\"It\'s blisteringly hot,
00:41:15.700 --> 00:41:18.766
\"and if I could lie around
in the altogether with you,
00:41:18.767 --> 00:41:21.632
\"the heat would be blissful.
00:41:21.633 --> 00:41:23.532
\"Everywhere here is change,
00:41:23.533 --> 00:41:26.299
\"and in the hope of the people,
you can see the comfort
00:41:26.300 --> 00:41:29.766
\"and beauty
which our own poor must carry
00:41:29.767 --> 00:41:32.333
as only a dream
under our present system.\"
00:41:36.533 --> 00:41:38.699
- Russia, she wrote,
was a fragile society.
00:41:38.700 --> 00:41:41.532
Its long-suffering people
were hemmed in
00:41:41.533 --> 00:41:44.033
by fascist enemies
and needed defenders.
00:41:44.967 --> 00:41:46.532
She refused to believe reports
00:41:46.533 --> 00:41:49.167
about Stalin\'s gulags
and bloody purges.
00:41:50.433 --> 00:41:53.433
[people shouting and cheering]
00:41:55.067 --> 00:41:58.299
I still ask myself,
how could she and so many others
00:41:58.300 --> 00:42:01.999
have supported a brutal leader
who murdered millions?
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:03.399
- I think it\'s a good question
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:06.032
that subsequent generations
have posed
00:42:06.033 --> 00:42:08.999
to their parents
and grandparents.
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:10.432
How could they have not known
00:42:10.433 --> 00:42:12.533
about what was happening
in the Soviet Union?
00:42:15.233 --> 00:42:17.566
There was
a sincerely held belief
00:42:17.567 --> 00:42:21.432
that the Soviet Union
had solved the major problems
00:42:21.433 --> 00:42:23.132
of that period...
00:42:23.133 --> 00:42:25.332
Unemployment,
first and foremost...
00:42:25.333 --> 00:42:27.366
And that the Soviet Union
also served
00:42:27.367 --> 00:42:29.867
as a bulwark
against the spread of fascism.
00:42:34.067 --> 00:42:37.899
- For my mom, the 1939 pact
between Stalin and Hitler
00:42:37.900 --> 00:42:40.032
was a betrayal of faith.
00:42:40.033 --> 00:42:44.666
It was the end of an ideology
but not of her commitment.
00:42:44.667 --> 00:42:48.266
- \"I would never classify myself
as a revolutionary.
00:42:48.267 --> 00:42:50.666
\"What I was moved by
were the issues.
00:42:50.667 --> 00:42:54.132
\"And about those things
I felt very, very deeply.
00:42:54.133 --> 00:42:57.732
\"Whatever political movement
would incorporate those ideals,
00:42:57.733 --> 00:42:59.567
would incorporate me.\"
00:43:02.133 --> 00:43:03.832
- In the late 1940s,
00:43:03.833 --> 00:43:06.132
Mom and Dad joined
the mass migration
00:43:06.133 --> 00:43:08.899
to the era\'s new utopia,
the suburbs,
00:43:08.900 --> 00:43:11.399
to raise me and my sister, Ann.
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:13.766
Mom left the Party far behind,
00:43:13.767 --> 00:43:16.099
but she continued
her political work
00:43:16.100 --> 00:43:18.399
no longer
through a communist lens
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:19.467
but a Jewish one.
00:43:20.700 --> 00:43:21.799
Knowing my mom,
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.866
she must have been going crazy
isolated in the suburbs.
00:43:24.867 --> 00:43:28.033
She wanted politics
as well as pearls.
00:43:29.833 --> 00:43:32.266
So she joined
American Jewish Congress,
00:43:32.267 --> 00:43:34.432
a national organization
that shared her belief
00:43:34.433 --> 00:43:36.032
in unions and civil rights,
00:43:36.033 --> 00:43:39.899
and opposed loyalty oaths
and the escalating Red Scare.
00:43:39.900 --> 00:43:41.700
She hid her communist past.
00:43:43.533 --> 00:43:45.899
- \"I didn\'t want it
to be discussed.
00:43:45.900 --> 00:43:47.132
\"There were many places
00:43:47.133 --> 00:43:50.566
\"where I couldn\'t continue
to function if it were known.
00:43:50.567 --> 00:43:52.432
It was like a stigmata.\"
00:43:52.433 --> 00:43:57.932
- Her colleagues at AJC
never found out about her past.
00:43:57.933 --> 00:44:02.332
And lucky for her and for us,
neither did the FBI.
00:44:02.333 --> 00:44:04.632
She is not mentioned
in 2,000 pages
00:44:04.633 --> 00:44:06.632
of FBI files we obtained
00:44:06.633 --> 00:44:08.466
on alleged
communist infiltration
00:44:08.467 --> 00:44:10.532
of American Jewish Congress.
00:44:10.533 --> 00:44:13.199
But the files did make me upset.
00:44:13.200 --> 00:44:15.632
They reveal the AJC\'s
liberal leaders
00:44:15.633 --> 00:44:19.932
purged groups
close to the Communist Party.
00:44:19.933 --> 00:44:20.867
- There was a feeling
00:44:20.868 --> 00:44:24.932
that communists were beyond
the pale of Jewish communal life
00:44:24.933 --> 00:44:26.832
because they were supporters
of a country
00:44:26.833 --> 00:44:28.932
that was totalitarian,
00:44:28.933 --> 00:44:33.499
that was increasingly
anti-Semitic,
00:44:33.500 --> 00:44:35.366
that had turned against Israel
00:44:35.367 --> 00:44:38.699
in a pretty traumatic
and harsh way.
00:44:38.700 --> 00:44:42.999
So there was a widespread
feeling by the early 1950s
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.799
that communists
were beyond the pale;
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:47.840
they just didn\'t belong
within the Jewish community.
00:44:48.967 --> 00:44:51.666
- My first reaction
to the AJC purge was,
00:44:51.667 --> 00:44:53.667
it was another witch hunt.
00:44:54.900 --> 00:44:57.799
But as I read further,
I felt torn.
00:44:57.800 --> 00:44:59.432
Like the AJC leaders,
00:44:59.433 --> 00:45:01.532
I\'m also against
left-wing groups
00:45:01.533 --> 00:45:06.332
when they intimidate dissent
in the name of liberation.
00:45:06.333 --> 00:45:08.499
On the other hand,
I\'m against right-wing efforts
00:45:08.500 --> 00:45:10.799
to silence the left
as anti-American,
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:13.167
or, nowadays, anti-Israel.
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.799
- In 1965, my mother
was elected president
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.166
of AJC National Women\'s
Division,
00:45:22.167 --> 00:45:24.566
leaving the next day to join
00:45:24.567 --> 00:45:28.232
the historic Selma-to-Montgomery
civil rights march.
00:45:28.233 --> 00:45:30.766
She became a recognized leader,
00:45:30.767 --> 00:45:33.066
speaking out
for racial equality, peace,
00:45:33.067 --> 00:45:37.366
and women\'s rights all over
the country and in Israel.
00:45:37.367 --> 00:45:39.799
As Mom became
a liberal Jewish leader,
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:43.066
my sister and I became radicals,
00:45:43.067 --> 00:45:45.899
rebelling against her
and my Dad\'s suburban lifestyle.
00:45:45.900 --> 00:45:48.332
We became active
in left-wing movements
00:45:48.333 --> 00:45:49.699
against the Vietnam war,
00:45:49.700 --> 00:45:51.933
for feminism and radical change.
00:45:54.133 --> 00:45:56.732
We\'d absorbed Mom\'s anger
against prejudice,
00:45:56.733 --> 00:45:58.166
her idealism,
00:45:58.167 --> 00:46:00.566
and also her
hard-won skepticism,
00:46:00.567 --> 00:46:03.032
even though we didn\'t know
her own history.
00:46:03.033 --> 00:46:05.832
It\'s a peculiar kind
of left-wing continuity...
00:46:05.833 --> 00:46:08.199
Frustrating, bumpy,
and interrupted...
00:46:08.200 --> 00:46:09.432
But for many of us,
00:46:09.433 --> 00:46:11.799
radical activism
against injustice
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.799
is also a kind
of Jewish continuity.
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.800
[crowd cheering]
00:46:18.333 --> 00:46:20.832
- Union power, what we got?
00:46:20.833 --> 00:46:22.866
- We want justice.
Boycott!
00:46:22.867 --> 00:46:25.632
- Union power, what we got?
00:46:25.633 --> 00:46:27.999
- When low-paid
immigrant hotel workers march
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.299
for a union contract
in San Francisco
00:46:30.300 --> 00:46:33.899
or domestic workers protest
working conditions in New York,
00:46:33.900 --> 00:46:37.299
they are often joined
in solidarity by Jews like us
00:46:37.300 --> 00:46:40.200
and by young Jewish activists
like Sarah Church.
00:46:42.200 --> 00:46:44.232
- For me,
the touchstones of Jewish faith
00:46:44.233 --> 00:46:46.366
have always been
putting what we pray for
00:46:46.367 --> 00:46:48.666
into action ourselves.
00:46:48.667 --> 00:46:52.532
I like to draw from the teaching
of the prophet Jeremiah
00:46:52.533 --> 00:46:56.099
and seek the well-being
of the city in which you dwell,
00:46:56.100 --> 00:46:59.366
for in its peace,
you will find your peace.
00:46:59.367 --> 00:47:01.766
To me, that\'s the essence
of what solidarity work is
00:47:01.767 --> 00:47:02.932
or being an ally is.
00:47:02.933 --> 00:47:05.799
It\'s understanding that.
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:10.399
- I will unabashedly argue that
the founding texts of Judaism
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:13.999
embrace at their core
this notion that,
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:17.099
for the Jew in the world,
the obligation is to be,
00:47:17.100 --> 00:47:19.899
as the prophet Isaiah says,
the repairer of the breach,
00:47:19.900 --> 00:47:22.132
that the obligation
is to feed the hungry
00:47:22.133 --> 00:47:25.099
and clothe the naked
and house the homeless
00:47:25.100 --> 00:47:27.166
and break off the yoke
of oppression
00:47:27.167 --> 00:47:29.066
to let the oppressed go free.
00:47:29.067 --> 00:47:31.766
- I don\'t believe there\'s
anything intrinsic in Judaism
00:47:31.767 --> 00:47:35.266
that lends itself to radicalism.
00:47:35.267 --> 00:47:38.999
I think radicalism
has been a product
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:42.732
of particular times and places
in Jewish histories,
00:47:42.733 --> 00:47:46.666
and we can see that in the fact
that in some cities,
00:47:46.667 --> 00:47:47.766
in some countries,
00:47:47.767 --> 00:47:49.866
radicalism was not an
important part of Jewish life,
00:47:49.867 --> 00:47:50.899
and in others, it was.
00:47:50.900 --> 00:47:53.966
- What I\'ve learned
from studying Jewish history
00:47:53.967 --> 00:47:54.967
and what I\'ve learned
00:47:54.968 --> 00:47:57.599
from watching how America
has unfolded politically
00:47:57.600 --> 00:47:59.132
is that the only thing
I can say for sure
00:47:59.133 --> 00:48:02.632
is that Judaism doesn\'t have
a specific politics.
00:48:02.633 --> 00:48:06.199
Judaism\'s job
as a spiritual tradition,
00:48:06.200 --> 00:48:11.932
is to undermine and destabilize
anybody\'s political position
00:48:11.933 --> 00:48:13.299
that\'s become too absolute.
00:48:13.300 --> 00:48:17.899
- Jews place so much hope
in emancipation, in communism,
00:48:17.900 --> 00:48:21.066
in revolution, in socialism,
in liberalism, in Zionism,
00:48:21.067 --> 00:48:22.166
all these things, you know,
00:48:22.167 --> 00:48:23.399
that were supposed to solve
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:24.799
the existential problems
of Jews,
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:27.066
and all of them
turned out to be,
00:48:27.067 --> 00:48:29.133
in one way or another,
problematic, all of them.
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:32.099
- It\'s falling apart.
00:48:32.100 --> 00:48:33.633
- It\'s really falling apart.
00:48:36.567 --> 00:48:38.399
- I was startled to uncover
the parallels
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:42.432
between Virginia on the left
and my Dad on the right.
00:48:42.433 --> 00:48:45.566
In spite of frustrations,
even disillusionment,
00:48:45.567 --> 00:48:47.899
the utopian commitments
they made in their 20s
00:48:47.900 --> 00:48:50.866
to Zionism and communism
shaped their lives
00:48:50.867 --> 00:48:53.433
and so much of who we are
as American Jews today.
00:48:54.600 --> 00:48:57.766
They lived long enough
to accomplish many goals
00:48:57.767 --> 00:48:59.532
but also to see their children
00:48:59.533 --> 00:49:01.700
travel down
very different roads.
00:49:08.033 --> 00:49:11.166
I\'m getting ready
to visit my mom in Israel.
00:49:11.167 --> 00:49:12.666
It always amazes me to think
00:49:12.667 --> 00:49:15.132
that for the first time
in 2,000 years,
00:49:15.133 --> 00:49:18.232
Jewish identity is being shaped
in both the Diaspora
00:49:18.233 --> 00:49:20.566
and also in a Jewish state.
00:49:20.567 --> 00:49:21.999
The question is
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.199
to what extent
these two Jewish realities
00:49:24.200 --> 00:49:26.300
support one another
or tear us apart.
00:49:28.133 --> 00:49:30.032
- On the 17th day
of the war in Gaza,
00:49:30.033 --> 00:49:32.632
there\'s still no sign
of a ceasefire.
00:49:32.633 --> 00:49:35.899
Israeli troops and Hamas
militants fought sporadic...
00:49:35.900 --> 00:49:40.832
- Occupation, settlements, war...
The bad news keeps coming.
00:49:40.833 --> 00:49:44.499
American supporters of Israel
are on the defensive
00:49:44.500 --> 00:49:48.199
with a publicity campaign
to show the good side:
00:49:48.200 --> 00:49:54.832
beaches, bars,
prosperity, freedom.
00:49:54.833 --> 00:49:57.200
But the other reality
keeps coming back.
00:50:15.033 --> 00:50:17.132
When I\'m in Jerusalem
visiting my mom,
00:50:17.133 --> 00:50:18.900
it\'s not about
this war of images.
00:50:21.733 --> 00:50:25.366
It\'s a place where people work,
raise families,
00:50:25.367 --> 00:50:28.900
dream of a better future,
and grow old.
00:50:30.933 --> 00:50:34.032
I understand the desire
to protect Israel,
00:50:34.033 --> 00:50:36.399
even while I\'m filled
with fear and sadness
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:38.833
about what the long occupation
is doing there.
00:50:46.900 --> 00:50:49.966
It\'s an uneasy feeling,
but I want to acknowledge
00:50:49.967 --> 00:50:53.466
not just the good
but also what troubles me
00:50:53.467 --> 00:50:56.367
and many other American
and Israeli Jews.
00:50:59.133 --> 00:51:01.032
- People will walk away
from an argument
00:51:01.033 --> 00:51:02.732
that looks like Israel
right or wrong,
00:51:02.733 --> 00:51:05.199
or Israel is an apartheid
demon state.
00:51:05.200 --> 00:51:07.599
That is just not
a compelling paradigm
00:51:07.600 --> 00:51:09.366
for most young American Jews.
00:51:09.367 --> 00:51:13.332
The hope lies
in showing an alternative
00:51:13.333 --> 00:51:15.432
to both of those
ultimately untenable
00:51:15.433 --> 00:51:17.032
and, I believe, intellectually
00:51:17.033 --> 00:51:19.000
and emotionally dishonest
positions.
00:51:21.233 --> 00:51:23.999
- When Daniel Sokatch
left the Jewish Federation,
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:26.699
the rancor that started
at the Jewish Film Festival
00:51:26.700 --> 00:51:29.866
followed him to his new job
at the New Israel Fund,
00:51:29.867 --> 00:51:31.132
the leading foundation
00:51:31.133 --> 00:51:33.433
supporting human rights work
in Israel.
00:51:34.767 --> 00:51:36.732
- Hi, I\'m Daniel Sokatch,
00:51:36.733 --> 00:51:38.932
and I\'m the CEO
of the New Israel Fund,
00:51:38.933 --> 00:51:39.999
and I need your help.
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:42.232
Democracy in Israel
is under attack.
00:51:42.233 --> 00:51:45.832
NIF itself has been vilely
and untruthfully attacked
00:51:45.833 --> 00:51:48.199
for our support
of the very human rights
00:51:48.200 --> 00:51:49.866
and civil rights organizations
00:51:49.867 --> 00:51:52.132
that are one
of the main reasons...
00:51:52.133 --> 00:51:55.466
- In Tel Aviv, New Israel Fund
President Naomi Chazan
00:51:55.467 --> 00:51:58.366
was personally threatened.
00:51:58.367 --> 00:52:02.166
- The message that is being
conveyed is very clear,
00:52:02.167 --> 00:52:03.732
and that is,
00:52:03.733 --> 00:52:08.166
if you have another opinion,
that\'s wrong,
00:52:08.167 --> 00:52:12.032
and that any serious dissent
in Israel
00:52:12.033 --> 00:52:17.466
is being equated directly
with betrayal and with treason.
00:52:17.467 --> 00:52:22.666
Attacks have been started
by right-wing organizations.
00:52:22.667 --> 00:52:24.799
They get their funding
from Jewish donors
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:28.700
or from Christian fundamentalist
groups in the United States.
00:52:30.467 --> 00:52:34.699
This is all about
Israel\'s future.
00:52:34.700 --> 00:52:36.932
If Israel is not democratic,
00:52:36.933 --> 00:52:39.667
it will not survive
for one minute.
00:52:45.233 --> 00:52:47.466
It\'s the pluralism
00:52:47.467 --> 00:52:51.199
and the diversity of ways
that one can love Israel
00:52:51.200 --> 00:52:54.399
that makes Israel
a vibrant society.
00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:56.400
- [speaking native language]
00:53:10.867 --> 00:53:13.699
- It\'s the same back home
in the United States:
00:53:13.700 --> 00:53:16.132
community leaders
demanding public silence
00:53:16.133 --> 00:53:19.232
when American Jews disagree
with Israeli policies.
00:53:19.233 --> 00:53:21.132
That alienates a lot of us
00:53:21.133 --> 00:53:23.632
who care about Israel\'s
safety and democracy
00:53:23.633 --> 00:53:26.599
but oppose the occupation
and settlements.
00:53:26.600 --> 00:53:29.066
A new political action group,
J Street,
00:53:29.067 --> 00:53:32.366
hopes to engage us to support
a more active U.S. role
00:53:32.367 --> 00:53:35.233
creating two states,
Israel and Palestine.
00:53:36.500 --> 00:53:38.432
We were eager to hear
what they were saying
00:53:38.433 --> 00:53:40.299
at their first
national conference.
00:53:40.300 --> 00:53:42.366
[applause]
00:53:42.367 --> 00:53:47.232
- We planned this conference
for 1,000 people,
00:53:47.233 --> 00:53:50.666
and when I told my staff that
back about nine months ago,
00:53:50.667 --> 00:53:53.566
they really wanted me
to get psychiatric help,
00:53:53.567 --> 00:53:55.999
and they said, you know,
\"Not only are you crazy.
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:57.766
You\'re gonna drive us crazy.\"
00:53:57.767 --> 00:54:00.599
We just crossed 1,500 people
at registration.
00:54:00.600 --> 00:54:03.600
[cheers and applause]
00:54:09.233 --> 00:54:11.932
We\'ve raised our kids
to give to the poor,
00:54:11.933 --> 00:54:14.299
to help the hungry,
to stand up for the oppressed,
00:54:14.300 --> 00:54:17.099
to rally around everybody else
who is suffering in the world.
00:54:17.100 --> 00:54:18.899
So they\'re gonna see
the Palestinian people,
00:54:18.900 --> 00:54:21.132
and they\'re gonna say,
\"Why are they suffering?\"
00:54:21.133 --> 00:54:22.799
And we have to let them
ask that question,
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.299
and we have to help them
understand the context
00:54:25.300 --> 00:54:27.332
and the history
and try to find their way
00:54:27.333 --> 00:54:30.799
and try to introduce them
in a way that allows them
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:33.632
to apply their values
to the issue
00:54:33.633 --> 00:54:35.600
rather than have to check them
at the door.
00:54:41.067 --> 00:54:43.132
You know,
it\'s not a left politics.
00:54:43.133 --> 00:54:45.666
It\'s not based in morality.
00:54:45.667 --> 00:54:47.399
It\'s not based in human rights.
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:50.499
It\'s based
in a realistic assessment of,
00:54:50.500 --> 00:54:53.399
how is Israel going to survive?
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:56.666
It\'s a assessment
in a really cold,
00:54:56.667 --> 00:54:59.232
analytical way of,
how do you save Israel?
00:54:59.233 --> 00:55:02.332
And I think the only way
you save Israel is through peace
00:55:02.333 --> 00:55:03.999
and through a recognition
of the other.
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.066
- Would those others
include supporters
00:55:06.067 --> 00:55:07.332
of boycott and divestment?
00:55:07.333 --> 00:55:08.632
- Absolutely.
00:55:08.633 --> 00:55:12.399
We think, actually, it\'s very
important for supporters
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:13.832
of boycott and divestment
00:55:13.833 --> 00:55:16.099
to be invited
into the Jewish community
00:55:16.100 --> 00:55:17.432
in order to state their position
00:55:17.433 --> 00:55:19.899
and that we should be
talking to them
00:55:19.900 --> 00:55:22.099
and, if possible,
convincing them that
00:55:22.100 --> 00:55:26.366
that strategy isn\'t the best way
to achieve their goal.
00:55:26.367 --> 00:55:30.332
The best remedy for speech
that you don\'t like
00:55:30.333 --> 00:55:31.499
is more speech,
00:55:31.500 --> 00:55:33.699
not to close the door
00:55:33.700 --> 00:55:36.167
and prevent the people
from speaking.
00:55:38.900 --> 00:55:40.066
- While making this film,
00:55:40.067 --> 00:55:42.132
we\'ve seen more and more
college campuses
00:55:42.133 --> 00:55:44.999
become battlegrounds
over boycotts of Israel
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:46.099
and where to draw the line
00:55:46.100 --> 00:55:48.900
between criticism of Israel
and anti-Semitism.
00:55:49.700 --> 00:55:50.766
Like their parents,
00:55:50.767 --> 00:55:53.199
Jewish students are divided
on these issues
00:55:53.200 --> 00:55:56.700
and often end up as leaders
on opposite sides of the debate.
00:56:14.567 --> 00:56:18.033
- Please file into
the back of the room first.
00:56:20.200 --> 00:56:21.866
Boycott, divestment,
and sanctions
00:56:21.867 --> 00:56:24.566
is a specific economic campaign
00:56:24.567 --> 00:56:26.732
fueled by a sense of frustration
00:56:26.733 --> 00:56:29.566
that governments
have not been successful
00:56:29.567 --> 00:56:31.766
in achieving an end
to the occupation.
00:56:31.767 --> 00:56:35.432
- I also am very worried
about some of the people
00:56:35.433 --> 00:56:38.699
who are involved in BDS
and some of the groups
00:56:38.700 --> 00:56:41.399
who I think are using it
as a way to undermine
00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:44.299
the very existence
of a state of Israel
00:56:44.300 --> 00:56:45.867
and of a state
for the Jewish people.
00:56:48.933 --> 00:56:52.632
- If the Berkeley Senate decides
that Israel
00:56:52.633 --> 00:56:54.999
is the world\'s moral criminal,
00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:57.632
then civilization is in trouble.
00:56:57.633 --> 00:56:59.300
That\'s why this is important.
00:57:07.200 --> 00:57:09.966
- I have a testimony
to share with you.
00:57:09.967 --> 00:57:11.799
My cousin became deathly ill,
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:13.432
and my aunt and uncle
sought medical aid
00:57:13.433 --> 00:57:15.132
at the nearest hospital
in Jerusalem.
00:57:15.133 --> 00:57:16.832
They had to pass through
two checkpoints,
00:57:16.833 --> 00:57:18.332
and at the second checkpoint,
00:57:18.333 --> 00:57:21.332
Israeli soldiers ordered
the doctor out of the ambulance
00:57:21.333 --> 00:57:23.132
because he was from Gaza.
00:57:23.133 --> 00:57:24.699
They also prohibited my uncle
00:57:24.700 --> 00:57:26.232
from going
through the checkpoint.
00:57:26.233 --> 00:57:28.132
My cousin died in the ambulance
00:57:28.133 --> 00:57:30.132
before they could reach
the hospital,
00:57:30.133 --> 00:57:31.766
and my uncle was denied
00:57:31.767 --> 00:57:35.132
the last few precious moments
of his son\'s life.
00:57:35.133 --> 00:57:37.632
My cousin was only
two years old.
00:57:37.633 --> 00:57:41.099
If you do not support the bill,
know this truth.
00:57:41.100 --> 00:57:42.632
Palestinian children
00:57:42.633 --> 00:57:45.499
who will be killed
by these arms companies,
00:57:45.500 --> 00:57:48.166
their blood will be
on your hands.
00:57:48.167 --> 00:57:50.732
[applause]
00:57:50.733 --> 00:57:52.566
- At age 18, I moved to Israel
00:57:52.567 --> 00:57:54.699
and enlisted in the IDF
and served for three years
00:57:54.700 --> 00:57:57.132
as a combat soldier
fighting in Lebanon
00:57:57.133 --> 00:57:58.432
and throughout the West Bank.
00:57:58.433 --> 00:58:00.499
I served at checkpoints,
00:58:00.500 --> 00:58:02.166
and I always treated
Palestinians
00:58:02.167 --> 00:58:04.266
with the utmost respect
and dignity.
00:58:04.267 --> 00:58:07.666
I watched as children,
mentally disabled individuals,
00:58:07.667 --> 00:58:09.799
pregnant women in ambulances,
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:13.866
were utilized to smuggle bombs
and weapons into Israel.
00:58:13.867 --> 00:58:15.266
I went on missions and watched
00:58:15.267 --> 00:58:18.332
as Palestinian gunmen
held children as human shields.
00:58:18.333 --> 00:58:19.333
- Liar!
00:58:19.333 --> 00:58:20.333
- We are dealing...
00:58:20.334 --> 00:58:22.999
I\'m not lying.
I saw this.
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:26.299
- You don\'t have to minimize
the Jewish identity
00:58:26.300 --> 00:58:28.099
to affirm Palestinian rights.
00:58:28.100 --> 00:58:30.232
We do not seek
to destroy a people
00:58:30.233 --> 00:58:31.699
or dismantle a state.
00:58:31.700 --> 00:58:34.199
We simply want to send a message
to a government
00:58:34.200 --> 00:58:37.199
that, yes, you, too, are
accountable for your violations.
00:58:37.200 --> 00:58:40.666
- I\'m here tonight
to tell you that I\'m tired.
00:58:40.667 --> 00:58:43.199
I\'m tired of feeling oppressed
on this campus,
00:58:43.200 --> 00:58:45.766
and I\'m tired that other people
feel oppressed on this campus,
00:58:45.767 --> 00:58:48.599
and I\'m tired that the last time
I was at a Senate meeting,
00:58:48.600 --> 00:58:52.732
I was called a Nazi,
a white supremacist, and a kike,
00:58:52.733 --> 00:58:54.699
and not a single one of you
said anything about it.
00:58:54.700 --> 00:58:56.867
This bill has destroyed
my world.
00:58:57.933 --> 00:58:59.299
- I\'m Jewish Israeli.
00:58:59.300 --> 00:59:01.967
I grew up in Tel Aviv, Israel.
00:59:03.367 --> 00:59:09.232
The land on which
my family\'s house is,
00:59:09.233 --> 00:59:12.532
I discovered it was
a village called Sumail,
00:59:12.533 --> 00:59:16.866
and there are refugees
from that village in Israel
00:59:16.867 --> 00:59:18.200
and in refugee camps.
00:59:19.367 --> 00:59:22.366
Facing those facts
makes me feel very fearful.
00:59:22.367 --> 00:59:25.999
It doesn\'t make me feel
comfortable facing those things,
00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:28.432
but I think that\'s
the only way forward,
00:59:28.433 --> 00:59:30.499
and that\'s the reason why
we are supporting this bill.
00:59:30.500 --> 00:59:33.632
- My uncle is one
of the chief cardiologists
00:59:33.633 --> 00:59:35.199
at the Technion University,
00:59:35.200 --> 00:59:38.799
the equivalent of MIT
here in the United States.
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:44.832
And three years ago,
00:59:44.833 --> 00:59:46.299
he was killed
by a suicide bomber
00:59:46.300 --> 00:59:49.232
while trying to aid
a Palestinian girl
00:59:49.233 --> 00:59:50.966
in a bypass surgery.
00:59:50.967 --> 00:59:53.232
- I don\'t want to deny
the psychological reality
00:59:53.233 --> 00:59:54.766
of the Jewish students
who are here.
00:59:54.767 --> 00:59:56.199
I want to tell you \"la baque.\"
00:59:56.200 --> 00:59:57.499
That means I am here.
00:59:57.500 --> 00:59:59.432
The Muslim Students Association,
we are here.
00:59:59.433 --> 01:00:01.532
We are saying that we will
look at you in the eye,
01:00:01.533 --> 01:00:04.232
and this means
I am here to serve you.
01:00:04.233 --> 01:00:05.866
It is a oath.
01:00:05.867 --> 01:00:09.132
It is an oath and a declaration
that I am here.
01:00:09.133 --> 01:00:10.999
La Baque!
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:14.000
[cheers and applause]
01:00:16.433 --> 01:00:18.899
- Hi, everyone,
I\'m Senator Boone.
01:00:18.900 --> 01:00:21.466
I\'m the only
Jewish student to...
01:00:21.467 --> 01:00:23.632
Jewish senator to vote
in support
01:00:23.633 --> 01:00:27.466
of divestment from Israel.
01:00:27.467 --> 01:00:30.099
Being a first-generation
American on my mother\'s side
01:00:30.100 --> 01:00:32.532
and a Jewish student with
a family of Holocaust survivors,
01:00:32.533 --> 01:00:35.466
I am blessed
in being given the chance
01:00:35.467 --> 01:00:38.332
to do right by my ancestors
and my communities tonight,
01:00:38.333 --> 01:00:40.132
to do the least
that is asked of me,
01:00:40.133 --> 01:00:41.699
to stand up
for rights of the oppressed
01:00:41.700 --> 01:00:42.932
when I see the opportunity,
01:00:42.933 --> 01:00:45.266
and to vote to divest
once and for all.
01:00:45.267 --> 01:00:47.066
Thank you.
01:00:47.067 --> 01:00:50.067
[cheers and applause]
01:00:52.933 --> 01:00:55.232
- We\'re now going to vote
on the motion
01:00:55.233 --> 01:00:57.499
to override the veto of SB 118.
01:00:57.500 --> 01:01:00.499
- Adam.
- Aye.
01:01:00.500 --> 01:01:02.466
- Bott.
- Nay.
01:01:02.467 --> 01:01:04.199
- Boone.
- Aye.
01:01:04.200 --> 01:01:05.499
- Carleton.
- Aye.
01:01:05.500 --> 01:01:06.832
- Cohen.
- Nay.
01:01:06.833 --> 01:01:08.032
- De Leon.
- Aye.
01:01:08.033 --> 01:01:09.332
- Franco.
- Aye.
01:01:09.333 --> 01:01:10.799
- Gala.
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:12.866
- Stern.
- Nay.
01:01:12.867 --> 01:01:15.300
- This motion
to override the veto fails.
01:01:19.100 --> 01:01:20.766
- We are constant gardeners,
right?
01:01:20.767 --> 01:01:22.832
Our stories are seeds.
01:01:22.833 --> 01:01:25.366
So what I want to ask you to do,
01:01:25.367 --> 01:01:26.932
as many of you
are already doing,
01:01:26.933 --> 01:01:28.732
is put your left hand
over your mouth,
01:01:28.733 --> 01:01:31.366
to represent the silence
we\'ve experienced for decades.
01:01:31.367 --> 01:01:33.932
And put your right hand
in the air,
01:01:33.933 --> 01:01:39.532
because nothing speaks louder
than a fistful of seeds.
01:01:39.533 --> 01:01:41.032
So now we will
walk out silently.
01:01:41.033 --> 01:01:42.200
Thank you.
01:01:47.100 --> 01:01:49.199
- What\'s clearly next is,
this is going to spread
01:01:49.200 --> 01:01:51.432
to campuses all over.
01:01:51.433 --> 01:01:53.900
And now it\'s just
a matter of time as it grows.
01:02:00.567 --> 01:02:04.232
- We identify with the student\'s
passion against the occupation.
01:02:04.233 --> 01:02:07.399
Like us and our parents,
they are challenging injustice
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:10.866
and demanding their turn
to create a new world.
01:02:10.867 --> 01:02:12.832
But we\'ve seen how
idealistic followers
01:02:12.833 --> 01:02:15.832
of movements for justice
can lose their way,
01:02:15.833 --> 01:02:19.066
coming to justify prejudice
and violence.
01:02:19.067 --> 01:02:20.466
We flirt with danger
01:02:20.467 --> 01:02:24.466
when we link our political
convictions to moral absolutes,
01:02:24.467 --> 01:02:28.967
whether we think we have God,
justice, or history on our side.
01:02:41.700 --> 01:02:43.532
- You\'re staying for...
01:02:43.533 --> 01:02:44.666
Good.
Good.
01:02:44.667 --> 01:02:47.299
- We had no idea
we would become obsessed.
01:02:47.300 --> 01:02:50.300
[voices overlapping]
01:02:54.767 --> 01:02:56.767
- I\'ll see you inside.
01:02:59.433 --> 01:03:05.500
[triumphant organ music]
01:03:11.467 --> 01:03:13.099
- A year has passed.
01:03:13.100 --> 01:03:16.432
It\'s now the Jewish Film
Festival\'s 30th anniversary.
01:03:16.433 --> 01:03:18.799
The festival survived,
even flourished,
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:21.432
with large
and enthusiastic audiences.
01:03:21.433 --> 01:03:24.166
The protesters are nowhere
in sight.
01:03:24.167 --> 01:03:26.299
The battle seems
to have moved elsewhere,
01:03:26.300 --> 01:03:27.632
even when the festival shows
01:03:27.633 --> 01:03:30.932
a potentially
controversial film.
01:03:30.933 --> 01:03:33.933
[cheers and applause]
01:03:36.733 --> 01:03:38.299
- Good evening.
01:03:38.300 --> 01:03:41.666
Many of you right now
might be slightly...
01:03:41.667 --> 01:03:42.999
You\'re excited to see the film,
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:44.499
but maybe you\'re
a little bit nervous.
01:03:44.500 --> 01:03:45.532
I know I am,
01:03:45.533 --> 01:03:46.866
because the last time
I stood in front of you
01:03:46.867 --> 01:03:48.932
when there was a kind of
conflict-oriented film,
01:03:48.933 --> 01:03:51.799
it was the beginning
of a kind of...
01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:54.966
I call it my \"annus horribilis.\"
01:03:54.967 --> 01:03:56.866
- It had been a horrible year
01:03:56.867 --> 01:03:59.732
for Peter Stein
and the festival community,
01:03:59.733 --> 01:04:02.599
but now the debate has subsided.
01:04:02.600 --> 01:04:05.666
They\'re giving the annual
Freedom of Expression award
01:04:05.667 --> 01:04:07.199
to Sayed Kashua,
01:04:07.200 --> 01:04:10.099
a Palestinian-Israeli
screenwriter and novelist
01:04:10.100 --> 01:04:13.000
known for his biting satire
of Israeli society.
01:04:17.700 --> 01:04:19.799
- The Israeli Consul General
is at the theatre
01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:21.466
to lend support.
01:04:21.467 --> 01:04:23.832
We would hope it\'s a victory
for free speech
01:04:23.833 --> 01:04:25.167
and the right to dissent.
01:04:29.967 --> 01:04:32.399
- But our journey over this year
has taught us
01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:35.233
that it\'s more likely to be
just a temporary cease-fire.
01:04:37.667 --> 01:04:39.933
None of the polarizing issues
have been resolved.
01:04:41.733 --> 01:04:44.132
Who is entitled
to speak for the tribe?
01:04:44.133 --> 01:04:47.599
Who gets banished
for crossing the lines?
01:04:47.600 --> 01:04:50.067
What happens
when our faith is challenged?
01:04:52.067 --> 01:04:54.732
[laughter]
01:04:54.733 --> 01:04:56.032
More than anything else,
01:04:56.033 --> 01:04:58.866
we\'ve found that the intense
debates we\'ve encountered
01:04:58.867 --> 01:05:01.166
reflect
a rapidly changing community
01:05:01.167 --> 01:05:04.832
and its hopes and fears
for the future.
01:05:04.833 --> 01:05:07.066
The boundaries of identity
are shifting
01:05:07.067 --> 01:05:10.032
in radical
and unpredictable ways.
01:05:10.033 --> 01:05:13.866
For us and for the next
generation of American Jews,
01:05:13.867 --> 01:05:15.900
the story is still unfolding.
01:05:18.700 --> 01:05:24.700
[mid-tempo
guitar and drum music]