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Yo-Yo Ma: Inspired by Bach - The Music Garden
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The Music Garden is an exploration of music as interpreted through gardening on a grand scale. The film follows the efforts of Yo-Yo Ma and landscape designer Julie Moir Messervy to create a formal garden, based on J. S. Bach's 'Suite No. 1 for Unaccompanied Cello', in the center of Boston. Woven throughout this unusual enterprise is a performance of the suite by Yo-Yo Ma, accompanied by special effects that bring the dream of the garden to life.
'Excellent footage and astute editing link the various old dance forms of Bach's music to sheltering forests, winding paths, and other aspects of the landscape...Yo-Yo Ma's creative concept, Messervy's enthusiastic vision, and the tough realities pulling at the actualization of an unusual project are deftly visualized in this striking production.' Booklist
'Ma...play(s) Bach in some stunningly photographed garden sequences.' Variety
'Bach (is) presented as many have long viewed him - as godly as nature itself' Toronto Life
'Recommended' Video Librarian
Citation
Main credits
Ma, Yo-Yo (host)
Ma, Yo-Yo (instrumentalist)
McMahon, Kevin (film director)
Fichman, Niv (film producer)
Messervy, Julie Moir (designer)
Other credits
Director of photography, Mark Willis; editing and visual effects, Michael McMahon.
Distributor subjects
American Government ; Canadian Studies; Garden Design; Gardening; Humanities; Landscape Architecture; Music; Performing Arts; Social PsychologyKeywords
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[music]
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-I’ve always been
interested in trying
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to define what a piece
of music really is.
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Sometimes I think
of it as a document.
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A document that is visual,
oral, you hear it,
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and spatial all at the same time.
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Also,
I’m interested in looking at why
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a document was created
in the first place
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and why it affects
and animates people
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so much in different
places and times.
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In the very first Bach suite,
I’ve asked my friend,
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Julie Moir Messervy, to look at this
music very closely and to see how
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it could possibly be
turned into a music garden.
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[music]
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-When I first got asked to do this
assignment, it was a little awesome.
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To think of trying
to make a garden from
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a piece of music was a little scary.
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Although I had thought
about that idea before.
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-I have to say that with
this first suite of Bach,
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I’ve always had nature in mind,
not a human thing.
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It’s always nature,
light, and water, and all of that.
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-Water and light.
A garden in the end is really taking
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what’s in nature and
taking its essence,
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and making it readable and simple.
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It all connects if
the design process.
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It doesn’t finish
until you’ve tweaked
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the last maple leaf off of the maple
tree, it falls onto the ground.
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You know that? That’s the idea.
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-You say it always, in fact, that a
garden continues to grow with you.
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-Exactly, and change just as you do.
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-I love that.
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I think a really good piece of
music develops a life of its own,
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that somehow it’s a living thing,
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and that you actually
have to go with it.
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You have to change with it.
You have to nurture it a lot.
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-Touching it at some moment in time.
Yes.
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-I’d like to think it’s a good fit.
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[music]
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-The prelude was perhaps the
easiest movement of the first suite.
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When I start to think of
it three-dimensionally
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sort of what landscape
features it reminded me of,
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it was really a seascape,
riverscape,
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a wave-like motion
that carved out space.
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[music]
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Yo-Yo, here’s our site.
It’s in the heart of Boston.
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We’ve got the federal building,
the Kennedy Building it’s called,
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city hall plaza.
The city hall over to our right.
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This is the right
place for this garden.
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The reason is because
people need it here.
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The space needs it here.
Look at this desert.
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Look at this arctic desert.
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It’s sad and desolate in
every bad sense of the word.
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-To get all of the various people,
the government, the city government,
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the federal government,
the MBTA together,
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I don’t think it’s going to happen,
so I think we should just give up.
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-[laughs] Yo-Yo,
don’t leave me here.
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-Having said that, Bach was maybe
one of the great composers who wrote
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for people without thinking about
who they were, whatever-- A garden,
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the idea of a secular place that
has a sacred element to it that
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in fact wants to bring out the very
best in all of us, that’s worth
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just trying to do impossible
things to make something happen.
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-Maybe not. I can start with
the spacing of the hedge,
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and then they can intensify
as they make the swirl.
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Chuck, you know it also has something
to do with the spacing of the hedge?
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-Sure.
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-That the ballardscan
relate in spacing.
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-We started out with
a quarter of an acre.
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We went to two acres, and now
we’re making it three-and-a-half.
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-Three acres. I’m pretty sure
it’s going to be the whole plaza.
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Anyway, I don’t think this works.
You see this?
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I’m not sure we need it.
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We have to look at
the bigger planning.
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Yo-Yo, here’s the plan.
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Basically,
you come from that island into
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the prelude through
the undulating walls.
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You look through the Allemande Forest
in here, which is a forest of big,
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tall conifer trees, probably pines,
and we’ll see, cedars,
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other sorts of trees. We’re
still working what that might be.
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You come out to here and
you’re in the Courante which
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is a very vibrant flowery
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churning spiraling movement,
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and there’s a huge
flower around the vent.
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I hope we can figure out a way
to really make that happen.
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Here, we’ve taken a very
difficult place, the vent,
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and tried to make it into a flower,
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a huge flower that
has flowers put into
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it as a changing display
through the seasons.
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Then, also, I hope it’ll look
beautiful as a winter snow
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flower when the snow falls
as it inevitably will.
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-Ever since I’ve started
playing the suite by Bach,
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nature has somehow figured into it,
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nature imagery,
light, shadows, water.
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If you’re interested at
all in terms of figuring
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out why this piece of
music with the garden,
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these are two different mediums,
how do they mix?
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I would say that if we do believe
that physical space and music can
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in fact create an ethos or some way
of asking people to be civilized,
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civic-minded,
I think that’s another thought,
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and then why not have
beautiful things for everybody?
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-Questions? Thoughts?
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-When do we start?
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-Tomorrow.
We’re waiting for you, Mayor.
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-I’ll give Mr. [?] a blank piece
of paper with my signature on it.
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-I love it. [laughter]
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-I didn’t know [?] leadership
we’re going to make it happen.
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-So cherish it.
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-Thank you for working with us.
Thank you for this vision.
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-Thank you.
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[applause]
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-The Boston Globe’s here. We’ll
just tell them this is good news.
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It might get in the paper.
[laughter]
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-To get things going, there’s a
real hunch as far as like-I think
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Bach meant it that way
when he wrote this music.
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I have to find out what the
heart of the community is.
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I think that’s, for me,
there’s nothing more important.
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-Boston’s mayor thinks a music
garden is a fabulous idea.
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-It brings vitality.
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There’s this green space
along the city hall plaza.
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It gives us the [?] city hall plaza.
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-The officials are now
looking for federal
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and private funding for
Yo-Yo Ma’s music garden.
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If they get it,
planning could begin next spring.
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-It makes a lot of sense.
Music comes out of green space.
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You walk through the tulips and the
rhododendrons, and other things,
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music comes out of that.
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Sound and music which
is you walk through,
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then you hear music in your
mind and your vision music.
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With the music garden,
we’ll see both,
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real music and music of
flowers in green space.
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[music]
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[applause]
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-My goal is to privatize
city hall plaza.
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We intend to put
some income-producing
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real estate on city hall plaza.
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With the income from
that real estate,
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we intend to improve the plaza and
make it user friendly to the public,
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and I think the music garden
can be a wonderful attraction.
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[music]
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-An Allemande, an ancient
German dance which immediately
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brings images from the forest,
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of lines of people winding there way
underneath especially pine trees,
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I guess and spruce.
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[music]
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-It’s obviously a flow in music
that goes from one place to another.
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The suites, it goes from slower to
faster so the whole direction is up.
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-Well, don’t forget we’ve
got a 25 story building that
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we have to do something
at the ground plain,
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at the pedestrian level
to bring down to earth.
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-Absolutely.
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-Then one way is the forest
but another way is to get
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these vertical elements that
move and shine and reflects.
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-I think that’s wonderful but
I know you suggested buskers.
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There are other things we can
think of that might just suggest
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that-we may want to just
dilly-dally for a little bit.
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-We need activity then.
That’s right dilly-dally along.
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-This curvilinear journey.
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-The curvilinear journey, I know.
You know, the problem with curves--
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-I love that word.
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-Curvilinear.
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The problem with curvilinear
is they cost a lot of money.
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-Curvilinear. Curvilinear journey.
[chuckles] Is that--
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-Yes, [?] will tell you that.
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-Straight is easier?
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-Straight is cheap. Curves are hard.
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I think there should be
these rounded swirls.
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Even though it’s a forest,
there it’s kind of granite.
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If this pen is working
I can show you.
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This pen isn’t working but I can get
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them to swirl up into a
little form here, spin down.
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-Great idea.
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[background noise]
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-Some places are in
fact graffiti free.
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-This kind of thing hasn’t
been used in Boston.
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-No.
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-No.
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-We’re so traditional.
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-Not very many things have
been used in Boston. [chuckles]
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-Lots of bricks.
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-Lots of bricks have
been used in Boston.
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-I’m saying that-- I’m thinking
that if we have a music
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garden with enough components
where people actually think,
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\"This is a special place to go to,\"
that they actually--
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-They will be more reverent.
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-Naturally take care of it.
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-Reverence.
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-Reverence maybe too-
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-Strong?
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-Strong.
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-Too strong but respect.
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-Yes.
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-It’s a pretty exciting
process to translate
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what you’re hearing
into something physical.
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-Especially with Yo-Yo
helping to translate
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the history of all of
the music it’s begun
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a process of being
able to put a material
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to sound which is what
this is all about.
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-We have a another responsibility
to design and develop a core
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element which disallows the threat
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of a terrorist type action here.
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That is a significant
responsibility.
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-One of the things they love
most about the garden thing,
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from the Federal Government
point of view is that
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it becomes a perimeter security
that undulates, it’s beautiful.
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-Last April when
Oklahoma City occurred,
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we’re suddenly on a whole
set of security concerns that
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we needed to incorporate into
the perimeter of our building.
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The music garden, let’s us do that
without just dropping concrete blocks
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in front of the building and
doing something really ugly.
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It’s a great project from
our perspective in many ways.
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[background noise]
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-We’ve we started in
a manner of speaking
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and we’re doing our
testing right now
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to understand what’s
below the surface which
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we need to do in order
to firm up our estimates.
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-That would be this point
here on the Sarabande.
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Then after we get
that hole analyzed,
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let’s take the square out over here.
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Then we’ll move over
to the Courante and see
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if we can get two
test holes over there,
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and then by Allemande
we’ll get to over there.
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-Well I think we’ve
got a tough road ahead
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of us to get this all
in place by August 15.
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Why all this is real
important to us is
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because if we don’t
start August 15th,
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all the activities get backed
up and we start pushing
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the project into winter and that
becomes a costly issue for us.
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-The trees in here are limbed up so
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that you can see through,
always safe.
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The next movement that you
come to is a big change.
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The last that I think you’ve seen
this sort of flower reiteration.
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It wasn’t quite clear in our minds.
We also had to keep at that time,
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we thought that the
conical vent structure that
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we’ve always hated but
felt we had to cover up.
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Then Norman started looking
at this feasibility,
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it turns out we don’t need to
keep that structure after all.
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What we decided to
do was make a maze.
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It’s not very hard maze.
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I think you could figure
how to get through.
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-Well, this is not a typical
because in developing
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real estate which has been our
business, we deal with professionals,
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be it architects, landscape
architects, or even artists at times.
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We have had that
particular experience.
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It can present problems because out
of different view with the world
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sometimes and do not understand
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the realities and that’s
we have to work on,
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but we’ve been through it before.
00:18:19.623 --> 00:18:21.273
-The dawn is breaking.
00:18:22.903 --> 00:18:24.873
-We have 8-
00:18:25.365 --> 00:18:28.754
-AM is not bad,
early morning coffee time.
00:18:29.517 --> 00:18:33.778
-9, 10.
00:18:35.090 --> 00:18:42.090
[music]
00:22:43.592 --> 00:22:47.354
[background noise]
00:22:47.684 --> 00:22:49.740
-This must be one
of the only projects
00:22:49.907 --> 00:22:53.340
in the history of the world
that has its deadline.
00:22:54.300 --> 00:22:56.363
A film that needs to be creative.
00:22:56.963 --> 00:22:59.151
Usually, a film comes and looks at-
00:22:59.339 --> 00:23:00.380
-A finished product or the process.
00:23:00.547 --> 00:23:02.713
--a finished product
or documents a process,
00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:04.963
but we’re documenting a
process that’s finished because
00:23:05.130 --> 00:23:09.690
a film needs to be finished June
15th to thereabouts of 1997.
00:23:10.436 --> 00:23:12.133
That’s a problem and an opportunity.
00:23:12.300 --> 00:23:15.073
-Well, that’s a problem
because we’re talking
00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:19.680
about almost $4.5 million project.
00:23:20.634 --> 00:23:25.041
A project of that scale, that’s
probably a normal three-year process.
00:23:28.429 --> 00:23:29.353
[music]
00:23:29.520 --> 00:23:33.030
-The Courante is,
again, a more accessible movement.
00:23:34.050 --> 00:23:38.970
I keep thinking of spiraling inward,
spiraling outward,
00:23:39.630 --> 00:23:41.205
twisting and turning.
00:23:41.889 --> 00:23:44.111
[background conversation]
00:23:44.402 --> 00:23:47.983
-Whatever it is, the numbers
of people that are going to see
00:23:48.150 --> 00:23:51.553
that and see it as a
group of dead trees.
00:23:51.720 --> 00:23:52.873
\"Look at that.
They all died overnight.
00:23:53.040 --> 00:23:54.334
I wonder what happened.\"
00:23:54.501 --> 00:23:55.501
-God.
00:23:55.812 --> 00:23:57.463
-No one needs that kind of impress.
00:23:57.630 --> 00:24:01.710
-All right, politically unacceptable.
Let’s move along to the ginkgo.
00:24:02.683 --> 00:24:07.536
-They sell at Princeton Nursery,
this Princeton Sentry variety.
00:24:07.703 --> 00:24:09.776
They have that in massive quantity.
00:24:09.943 --> 00:24:10.545
-They do?
00:24:10.712 --> 00:24:13.522
-They’ve got fields of [?].
They got six-inch trees.
00:24:13.689 --> 00:24:13.975
-Gingko.
00:24:14.142 --> 00:24:14.688
-Gingko Biloba.
00:24:14.855 --> 00:24:16.140
-Talk about some ancient trees.
00:24:16.307 --> 00:24:17.562
-Talk about an ancient tree.
00:24:17.729 --> 00:24:18.611
-That’s a [?].
00:24:18.778 --> 00:24:19.778
-Yes, yes.
00:24:20.742 --> 00:24:22.728
-That’s perfect for growth planting.
00:24:22.895 --> 00:24:26.160
It’s predisposed and
they grow that tree well.
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:29.884
-Even though these are young
leaves that are only half-formed,
00:24:30.051 --> 00:24:32.837
they have a wonderful
cuteness layer to them.
00:24:33.004 --> 00:24:36.557
They’re already well protected from
anything that would happen to them.
00:24:36.724 --> 00:24:37.279
Exactly.
00:24:37.446 --> 00:24:38.698
-Yet they have a form.
00:24:38.865 --> 00:24:39.709
It’s perfect for our garden.
00:24:39.876 --> 00:24:40.281
-Just so wonderful.
00:24:40.448 --> 00:24:41.461
-Look at that, the way they tremble.
00:24:41.628 --> 00:24:42.485
-Yes, exactly.
00:24:42.652 --> 00:24:43.539
-It could be beautiful in the wind.
00:24:43.706 --> 00:24:44.407
-Exactly.
00:24:44.574 --> 00:24:46.040
-Would it work?
Would it look good enough for us?
00:24:46.207 --> 00:24:50.820
-I think it would look absolutely
dynamite because of the site.
00:24:51.330 --> 00:24:54.257
The site is so star. The city hall--
00:24:54.424 --> 00:24:56.024
-The trees would be star too.
00:24:56.191 --> 00:24:57.227
-Yes, exactly.
00:24:57.394 --> 00:24:58.387
-They’d be sculptural.
00:24:58.554 --> 00:24:59.222
-Yes, and so you’d be--
00:24:59.389 --> 00:25:00.498
-They’re so sculptural.
00:25:00.665 --> 00:25:04.439
-Yes, yes. [laughter]
00:25:04.770 --> 00:25:07.853
-Where do you zero in
to be able to ferret
00:25:08.020 --> 00:25:10.088
out that amount of money
in that short time?
00:25:10.255 --> 00:25:12.433
-Well, I think it’s beyond enough.
00:25:12.600 --> 00:25:15.373
Making sure that all of your
different constituency groups within
00:25:15.540 --> 00:25:21.600
the corporate world are being
massaged and given the opportunity.
00:25:21.990 --> 00:25:24.133
For example, I think in the
naming opportunities that
00:25:24.300 --> 00:25:25.963
we’re going to be
proposing for people,
00:25:26.130 --> 00:25:30.283
that you can actually get
your name on a flower bed,
00:25:30.450 --> 00:25:32.113
get your name on one
of the ginkgo trees,
00:25:32.280 --> 00:25:33.763
get your name on
one of the preludes.
00:25:33.930 --> 00:25:35.833
-Do you mean all 60 ginkgos
are going to be named?
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:40.243
-If we have 60 people who want
to buy 60 ginkgos, goodness,
00:25:40.410 --> 00:25:41.730
we’re going to give it to them so.
00:25:41.897 --> 00:25:44.076
-We’ve gotten to that
level of deep sale.
00:25:44.243 --> 00:25:45.860
-Well,
I think for the entire music garden
00:25:46.027 --> 00:25:49.267
it’s a $2.5 million contribution
that we’re looking at.
00:25:49.830 --> 00:25:51.546
For that, we’re looking to have it
00:25:51.713 --> 00:25:54.210
actually be named on
behalf of someone.
00:25:55.020 --> 00:25:56.713
Fill in the blank music garden.
00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:00.793
That would be wonderful like the
fleet center or something like that.
00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:03.763
Then within each one of
the movements, for example,
00:26:03.930 --> 00:26:07.710
the Allemande forest is going to be,
I think, $50,000.
00:26:07.980 --> 00:26:11.550
The Sarabande performance
shell is $50,000.
00:26:11.730 --> 00:26:15.626
One of the flower beds is $25,000.
It’s going to happen.
00:26:15.853 --> 00:26:18.310
It’s going to happen.
It has to happen.
00:26:19.140 --> 00:26:23.413
-Well, I would say,
that when you based a garden
00:26:23.580 --> 00:26:27.343
on an intellectual
idea or a construct,
00:26:27.510 --> 00:26:30.463
an intellectual construct that
those gardens, in my experience,
00:26:30.630 --> 00:26:33.223
typically fail because they’re not
00:26:33.390 --> 00:26:36.600
in harmony with the
conditions that prevail.
00:26:37.050 --> 00:26:41.544
-One, two, three, four,
five, six, one, good. Three, five.
00:26:41.711 --> 00:26:42.532
-Oh, no.
00:26:42.699 --> 00:26:46.871
-Yes, six and one, two,
three, four, five, six, a second one,
00:26:48.579 --> 00:26:51.867
and a third, and sideways.
00:26:52.034 --> 00:26:57.763
Open and three, four, five, six,
open, and three, four driving back.
00:26:57.930 --> 00:27:00.133
Right,
and three, four, five, six, right.
00:27:00.300 --> 00:27:03.883
Everyone is capable of eating,
walking, running, and falling asleep.
00:27:04.050 --> 00:27:04.873
These are the things we do.
00:27:05.040 --> 00:27:07.693
What is it that takes
you beyond the animal?
00:27:07.860 --> 00:27:11.760
What is the artifice and the good
18th-century senses of the word?
00:27:12.074 --> 00:27:14.197
Six.
One, two, three, four, five, six.
00:27:14.364 --> 00:27:14.853
-Oh, no.
00:27:15.020 --> 00:27:15.859
-Three, four, five, six.
00:27:16.026 --> 00:27:17.227
-One, two, three.
00:27:17.394 --> 00:27:18.430
-One, two, three.
00:27:18.597 --> 00:27:19.348
-One, two, three, right, sink.
00:27:19.515 --> 00:27:20.116
-Oh, no.
00:27:20.283 --> 00:27:20.656
-Left, right, left, please.
00:27:20.823 --> 00:27:23.323
-I can’t do the sink
and then keep going.
00:27:25.947 --> 00:27:27.853
It’s one way to get
into the garden is
00:27:28.020 --> 00:27:30.420
to take these patterns
and to use them.
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:32.983
This dance is not only
a horizontal pattern,
00:27:33.150 --> 00:27:34.710
it has a verticality too as well.
00:27:34.877 --> 00:27:37.061
-Absolutely. We tend to
think of bending the knees.
00:27:37.228 --> 00:27:39.848
They talk about sinking and rising.
00:27:41.326 --> 00:27:48.326
[music]
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:06.553
-I think the film was really
what set the deadline.
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:08.203
We were told that there was a hard
00:30:08.370 --> 00:30:10.603
and fast date by which
it had to be done.
00:30:10.770 --> 00:30:14.593
-I think artists have to take
a certain viewpoint of things,
00:30:14.760 --> 00:30:17.653
and I certainly respect what they do,
but we had to be practical,
00:30:17.820 --> 00:30:24.103
and we feel that the project was
very important to the city of Boston.
00:30:24.270 --> 00:30:25.423
We would’ve liked to
have seen it done,
00:30:25.590 --> 00:30:28.710
but it just became too
complex over a period of time.
00:30:35.298 --> 00:30:37.740
-Sarabande is very, very different,
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.653
it’s probably like a
glade in the forest that
00:30:41.820 --> 00:30:44.730
you come upon with bits
of light coming through.
00:30:46.140 --> 00:30:50.310
I put a lot of myself
into that whole thing,
00:30:50.820 --> 00:30:53.623
but I felt very personally connected
00:30:53.790 --> 00:30:55.813
to so many of the
people we worked with,
00:30:55.980 --> 00:30:58.560
and know the loss
that they’re feeling,
00:30:59.460 --> 00:31:02.199
and know the loss that the
general public’s feeling.
00:31:02.366 --> 00:31:04.016
-It is very sad when--
00:31:04.573 --> 00:31:07.513
Although I have to say
that we started this whole
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.400
project thinking that it would
be practically impossible to do,
00:31:12.810 --> 00:31:15.643
in the same way that
I think of the suites
00:31:15.810 --> 00:31:19.993
as being slightly impossible music,
because it’s designed in such a way.
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:22.543
It’s like-- I don’t know.
00:31:22.710 --> 00:31:26.700
By illusion, you create polyphony
with a single-line instrument.
00:31:26.970 --> 00:31:29.220
While we were trying to do something
00:31:31.830 --> 00:31:32.972
next to impossible.
00:31:33.139 --> 00:31:35.419
-I wanted to get that done.
I wanted to see what it looked like.
00:31:35.586 --> 00:31:37.524
I wanted to take my kids there.
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:40.310
I wanted to keep going
with our programming ideas.
00:31:40.477 --> 00:31:42.977
-I think once an idea
like this gets out,
00:31:45.210 --> 00:31:49.227
things happen that actually
that we just can’t predict.
00:31:49.394 --> 00:31:56.394
[music]
00:32:01.568 --> 00:32:03.733
-We were open, honest, giving,
00:32:03.900 --> 00:32:07.033
we did everything we were
asked to do in a timely way,
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:11.160
in an enthusiastic way. I smiled
far too much through this process.
00:32:13.080 --> 00:32:17.186
On the other side, you get people
who are not trusting people.
00:32:17.629 --> 00:32:18.633
-Well, they’re business people.
00:32:18.800 --> 00:32:19.762
-They’re business people.
00:32:19.929 --> 00:32:24.570
They clearly didn’t understand
our openness about this.
00:32:24.930 --> 00:32:27.118
They were probably surprised by it.
00:32:27.450 --> 00:32:31.063
You’ve got these two worldviews
that just couldn’t come together,
00:32:31.230 --> 00:32:33.291
and yet,
in the end, the garden was supposed
00:32:33.458 --> 00:32:35.203
to be the thing that
we did together,
00:32:35.370 --> 00:32:37.050
that we created together.
00:32:37.323 --> 00:32:39.853
-We couldn’t make it happen,
because financially,
00:32:40.020 --> 00:32:42.895
we couldn’t get people
to step up to the plate.
00:32:43.290 --> 00:32:45.793
I don’t understand
enough about fundraising,
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:49.160
I don’t understand about the
strategy that was developed
00:32:49.327 --> 00:32:53.486
to really understand and know
why it didn’t work, but--
00:32:54.219 --> 00:32:55.025
-It didn’t work.
00:32:55.192 --> 00:32:58.252
-It didn’t work,
because the money never came to be.
00:32:59.280 --> 00:33:00.883
-We were all doing it
for the same reason,
00:33:01.050 --> 00:33:03.343
which was to make something
here that’s better
00:33:03.510 --> 00:33:06.073
and more beautiful than
what was here before.
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:07.813
I was wrong, it couldn’t happen.
00:33:07.980 --> 00:33:10.293
We thought we could
perform a miracle.
00:33:10.740 --> 00:33:16.213
All artists think that.
In the end, we couldn’t.
00:33:16.380 --> 00:33:19.813
That’s incredibly disappointing.
It’s a big loss.
00:33:19.980 --> 00:33:23.173
I was very, very sad for the first
three weeks after it happened.
00:33:23.340 --> 00:33:26.310
Now I’m probably
edging more on bitter.
00:33:27.360 --> 00:33:30.553
If we can do a garden somewhere
and start to realize the dream,
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:32.970
I’ll come back to my old self again.
00:33:34.093 --> 00:33:36.313
-It seems that there’s
always some tension
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.260
between the imagination
and concrete reality.
00:33:41.100 --> 00:33:44.070
Will power alone cannot
turn one into the other.
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:52.080
It seems that people, the time,
and place can be even more important.
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:56.305
As it turned out,
we were really fortunate
00:33:56.540 --> 00:33:59.443
in finding out that
the City of Toronto was
00:33:59.610 --> 00:34:03.750
interested in developing a space
that might turn into a music garden.
00:34:12.103 --> 00:34:13.667
-That’s good for us.
00:34:13.834 --> 00:34:15.228
-Then the other thing, I suppose--
00:34:15.395 --> 00:34:16.360
-That it exists already.
00:34:16.527 --> 00:34:17.734
-I don’t know if I
need to point this out,
00:34:17.901 --> 00:34:20.583
but this is the access to
the Toronto Island Airport.
00:34:20.750 --> 00:34:24.365
The Toronto Island Airport ferry,
this is its little ferry base.
00:34:24.532 --> 00:34:25.467
-It’s adorable.
00:34:25.634 --> 00:34:28.091
-It’s very well connected
internationally.
00:34:28.258 --> 00:34:31.738
-It is a very unique part of
Toronto’s industrial heritage.
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.693
-You’re also very sensitive
to that here, it seems.
00:34:34.860 --> 00:34:37.235
Everything I’ve heard
is environmental,
00:34:38.001 --> 00:34:39.990
industrial, sensitivity.
00:34:40.310 --> 00:34:42.998
-This is the westerly
extension of the park.
00:34:43.441 --> 00:34:46.783
It will take in the existing road,
which will be removed,
00:34:46.950 --> 00:34:49.850
and the road will be
relocated to this area here.
00:34:50.340 --> 00:34:52.903
The road will be
realigned from that point
00:34:53.370 --> 00:34:58.020
right over to where the
pavilion sign is, down there.
00:34:58.732 --> 00:34:59.395
It’ll be a big-
00:34:59.562 --> 00:34:59.883
-Pretty straight.
00:35:00.050 --> 00:35:00.515
--arc.
00:35:00.682 --> 00:35:01.153
-An arc.
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:03.360
-It’ll be curving this way.
00:35:03.990 --> 00:35:06.793
This area from the
developed part of the park
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:10.237
to the new park boundary
is two full acres.
00:35:10.565 --> 00:35:11.800
-Is it?
00:35:14.689 --> 00:35:17.062
-Any other characteristic
spots that we want to mention?
00:35:17.229 --> 00:35:19.307
-Well,
the survey is being prepared now.
00:35:19.474 --> 00:35:20.773
There’s no easement [crosstalk]
00:35:20.940 --> 00:35:23.953
-Both Yo-Yo and I are reeling
at the moment from having
00:35:24.120 --> 00:35:27.120
been involved in a very
intense process for a year.
00:35:27.660 --> 00:35:28.573
It’s going to take me a little while
00:35:28.740 --> 00:35:32.340
to move my head to the
possibilities here,
00:35:32.670 --> 00:35:34.663
that at the moment is a
little hard to imagine
00:35:34.830 --> 00:35:37.086
just because all I
see are cement mixers,
00:35:37.253 --> 00:35:41.950
cranes, an elevated highway,
train whistles, -
00:35:42.389 --> 00:35:43.637
-This is urban music.
00:35:43.804 --> 00:35:45.493
--and a wasteland feeling.
00:35:45.660 --> 00:35:47.263
You have to be
imaginative about this,
00:35:47.430 --> 00:35:51.038
and we’re supposed to be
doing that in our lives here.
00:36:04.028 --> 00:36:05.124
-We should do a little jig.
00:36:05.291 --> 00:36:06.277
-Yes, [?]
00:36:06.444 --> 00:36:08.246
-Yo-Yo, this is Mayor Barbara Hall.
00:36:08.413 --> 00:36:14.150
-So excited to meet you.
I hear you play the violin, right?
00:36:14.367 --> 00:36:15.792
Among other things.
00:36:16.146 --> 00:36:16.572
-Really?
00:36:16.739 --> 00:36:18.450
-Is that true? [laughter]
00:36:18.617 --> 00:36:22.971
Wait a minute,
I’ve been misinformed.
00:36:23.231 --> 00:36:26.713
I’ve been playing these Bach
suites since I was four years old.
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:30.870
For as long as I remember,
playing these suites,
00:36:31.110 --> 00:36:33.673
and playing the first
suite in particular,
00:36:34.577 --> 00:36:36.656
I’ve always related to nature.
00:36:36.981 --> 00:36:38.833
-I think the heart of the garden,
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:40.753
the contemplative
center of the garden,
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:46.112
perhaps the smallest space of
the garden, the Sarabande, and--
00:36:47.207 --> 00:36:49.726
Well, take it.
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:55.204
[music]
00:36:56.092 --> 00:37:00.960
-We thought, \"Well, maybe this
would be something that we could do,
00:37:01.380 --> 00:37:04.003
but where to put it and set up?\"
00:37:04.170 --> 00:37:05.953
We could go,
of course, into nature and do it,
00:37:06.120 --> 00:37:11.473
but we actually thought that the best
place for such a place in our very
00:37:11.640 --> 00:37:16.543
contemporary world is in a place
where people might need it the most.
00:37:17.477 --> 00:37:20.461
-A project like this is good
00:37:20.628 --> 00:37:25.033
for us as a corporation as well,
00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:28.740
because it’s something that
does generate excitement,
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:32.983
and it easily brings together
people from different
00:37:33.150 --> 00:37:38.440
places who get motivated
to make it happen.
00:37:39.709 --> 00:37:43.500
-If this garden, if this community
provides this kind of spirit,
00:37:44.610 --> 00:37:48.900
it becomes a magnet of some
sort for things to happen.
00:37:50.258 --> 00:37:52.891
-Did you see the painting?
00:37:53.783 --> 00:37:55.016
-I’ve been looking at it.
00:37:55.183 --> 00:37:57.586
-This, Toronto in about
00:37:57.964 --> 00:38:03.870
1900, but in fact,
it’s been filled in quite a bit.
00:38:04.526 --> 00:38:06.382
You can see that it’s
much farther than--
00:38:06.549 --> 00:38:07.504
-Moved a long way.
00:38:07.671 --> 00:38:08.719
-It’s unbelievable.
00:38:08.886 --> 00:38:10.075
-The garden would be-
00:38:10.242 --> 00:38:11.326
-Somewhere out in the water.
00:38:11.493 --> 00:38:12.983
--somewhere out in
the water over there.
00:38:13.150 --> 00:38:14.354
-That’s amazing.
00:38:14.900 --> 00:38:21.900
[music]
00:41:42.601 --> 00:41:44.640
-The image of the Minuet,
00:41:45.030 --> 00:41:50.400
is one of a formal garden that
has symmetrical sides to it.
00:41:53.430 --> 00:41:59.790
How wonderful to be on a beautiful
day, in the sun, in March.
00:42:02.423 --> 00:42:03.433
Terrific.
00:42:03.600 --> 00:42:07.393
The minuet area will have a
nice focal point, [chuckles]
00:42:07.560 --> 00:42:08.328
on the CN tower.
00:42:08.495 --> 00:42:10.572
-Indeed.
00:42:11.885 --> 00:42:16.633
-As we thought of it, the more
we came to realize that doing
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:19.003
the foundation for
the garden this way,
00:42:19.170 --> 00:42:21.545
way the best way of
designing the park.
00:42:22.650 --> 00:42:25.003
We wouldn’t have thought of
it without them, definitely.
00:42:25.170 --> 00:42:27.983
We’ve worked together
over a series of months,
00:42:28.290 --> 00:42:32.850
with Julie in a volunteer
designer capacity,
00:42:33.150 --> 00:42:36.883
to understand what we would
need to build into the ground,
00:42:37.050 --> 00:42:41.083
in order to allow for the potential
of the music garden to be realized,
00:42:41.250 --> 00:42:45.540
and to work with her in terms of how
the site relates to the waterfront,
00:42:45.750 --> 00:42:47.983
and what we would
like to achieve here.
00:42:48.150 --> 00:42:50.503
We’ve spent a lot of time
talking about the concept.
00:42:50.670 --> 00:42:54.253
I think we have a very good shared
understanding at this point.
00:42:54.420 --> 00:42:56.863
-The next [?] would be
the Courante section.
00:42:57.030 --> 00:43:00.335
That we’re still seeing as the
whirling, butterflies. and waving-
00:43:00.502 --> 00:43:01.381
-Grasses.
00:43:01.548 --> 00:43:02.959
--prairie, waving grasses feeling.
-[chuckles]
00:43:03.126 --> 00:43:04.388
-I love that. I can’t wait to plant-
00:43:04.555 --> 00:43:05.953
-Yes, I know.
That would be great. [chuckles]
00:43:06.120 --> 00:43:10.200
--that. I’m so excited about that.
Now we just have to get the money.
00:43:11.182 --> 00:43:16.050
-My hope is that the excitement
of having Yo-Yo here,
00:43:17.010 --> 00:43:22.770
also being able to show in a
tangible way what can happen,
00:43:23.340 --> 00:43:25.590
will generate enough excitement that
00:43:26.010 --> 00:43:27.859
enough pocket-books
will be loosened.
00:43:28.026 --> 00:43:34.350
-It’s been a very open,
can-do, giving, possible place.
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:36.793
They also,
by the way, I think you know this,
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.073
they have a commitment
to the community.
00:43:39.240 --> 00:43:40.337
That they have to build something.
00:43:40.504 --> 00:43:41.263
-It’s a raccoon.
00:43:41.430 --> 00:43:41.816
-Yes.
00:43:41.983 --> 00:43:42.988
-Look.
00:43:43.155 --> 00:43:44.407
-No. It’s a fox.
00:43:44.700 --> 00:43:45.322
-No, it’s a raccoon. Is it a racoon?
00:43:45.489 --> 00:43:47.310
-No, it’s a raccoon.
That’s a big fat raccoon. [chuckles]
00:43:47.477 --> 00:43:49.113
-Big fat racoon, yes.
00:43:51.165 --> 00:43:55.125
Boston won’t even be mentioned,
and I think that’s all to the good.
00:43:55.508 --> 00:43:57.703
-Yes. I think it’s just
looking at the opportunity.
00:43:57.870 --> 00:43:59.503
The fact that we
have the opportunity,
00:43:59.670 --> 00:44:02.503
because it fell through is a plus,
00:44:02.670 --> 00:44:05.413
but it’s not really
a factor in whether
00:44:05.580 --> 00:44:07.643
one decides to support it or not.
00:44:07.830 --> 00:44:10.033
Obviously, if it hadn’t
fallen through in Boston,
00:44:10.200 --> 00:44:12.263
we wouldn’t even have the chance.
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.153
It’s a potential-- Some of the
corporate sponsors we would go
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.800
after would be people that may
have some time with gardens.
00:44:20.297 --> 00:44:21.604
[chuckles]
00:44:21.938 --> 00:44:25.483
No. Look, I heard the [?] grow,
but I don’t think decisions grow as
00:44:25.650 --> 00:44:27.703
rapidly as they would
have to in this case.
00:44:27.870 --> 00:44:30.930
The whole project needs to
be completed by the fall.
00:44:31.727 --> 00:44:35.616
[laughs]
00:44:39.554 --> 00:44:43.800
The difficulty there is with
the smoking legislation,
00:44:44.040 --> 00:44:48.640
that might be difficult
to identify a donor. Yes.
00:44:49.809 --> 00:44:53.580
-Our idea in this plan was to
get you up to the top of a hill,
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:57.373
because it seems to me we’ve got
to come back and scour it out.
00:44:57.540 --> 00:45:01.183
I need people who experience what
an Allemande might feel like.
00:45:01.350 --> 00:45:02.550
It’s too simple.
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.783
The Minuet is all about interlocking,
but never touching.
00:45:07.950 --> 00:45:09.703
Somehow, that’s my problem.
00:45:09.870 --> 00:45:13.920
I got to figure out how to do that
where they’ll be able to do that.
00:45:14.160 --> 00:45:16.973
I want them to come back
around on themselves.
00:45:20.910 --> 00:45:23.430
That idea has to go, clearly.
00:45:24.540 --> 00:45:31.022
But the original idea was a forest,
a perfect grove.
00:45:32.502 --> 00:45:33.624
[music]
00:45:33.791 --> 00:45:34.306
-Oh, my word.
00:45:34.473 --> 00:45:35.858
-This is our site.
We’re on our site right now.
00:45:36.025 --> 00:45:36.737
-Yes.
00:45:36.904 --> 00:45:39.641
[music]
00:45:39.808 --> 00:45:40.664
-Isn’t that amazing?
00:45:40.831 --> 00:45:43.921
-Fast work.
What are they doing with the silos?
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:45.485
-I don’t think a
decision’s been made,
00:45:45.652 --> 00:45:49.439
but half the proposals [?] more
or less an art-music center.
00:45:49.767 --> 00:45:52.267
There’s another one
that has a mausoleum.
00:45:54.093 --> 00:45:56.282
They’re quite different.Yes.
[laughter]
00:45:56.449 --> 00:45:57.545
-Are you serious?
00:45:57.712 --> 00:45:58.293
-Yes.
00:45:58.460 --> 00:45:59.607
-For what?
00:46:00.392 --> 00:46:01.324
-Cremated remains?
00:46:01.491 --> 00:46:03.896
-I don’t know if there’s been any
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:07.344
denomination,
but it was part of the proposal.
00:46:07.658 --> 00:46:08.319
-Really?
00:46:08.486 --> 00:46:09.486
-Yes.
00:46:11.179 --> 00:46:11.990
-This road is-
00:46:12.157 --> 00:46:12.893
-This road’s gone.
00:46:13.060 --> 00:46:13.581
--gone.
00:46:13.748 --> 00:46:14.777
-It’s kind of hard to visualize.
00:46:14.944 --> 00:46:17.658
-Yes.
Up until where? All of the road.
00:46:17.987 --> 00:46:18.883
-The whole road’s gone.
00:46:19.050 --> 00:46:20.664
-All that road is gone.
00:46:20.831 --> 00:46:24.870
-The walkway is essentially where
we got it, this trail thing,
00:46:25.350 --> 00:46:27.441
and then this whole
old park is gone, -
00:46:27.608 --> 00:46:28.405
-That old park is gone.
00:46:28.572 --> 00:46:30.073
--and becomes a higher hill.
00:46:30.240 --> 00:46:33.313
Moving through Allemande forest
in here, we’re down of course,
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:34.903
at this point in the Allemande.
00:46:35.070 --> 00:46:37.003
We start to move up
to a high point where-
00:46:37.170 --> 00:46:37.886
-The Courante is going
to be over there.
00:46:38.053 --> 00:46:38.773
--the Courante will be.
That’s right.
00:46:38.940 --> 00:46:40.814
Then we go down,
and then we go back up again.
00:46:40.981 --> 00:46:41.471
-Right.
00:46:41.638 --> 00:46:42.779
[background noise]
00:46:42.946 --> 00:46:44.004
-I can support it, except you’re not
00:46:44.171 --> 00:46:45.952
going to ask me to cut the grass,
are you?
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:46.763
[laughter]
00:46:46.930 --> 00:46:49.229
-I’ll cut the grass if
you’ll support it. [laughter]
00:46:49.396 --> 00:46:51.896
-I’ll be up here with
my pruning machine.
00:46:52.248 --> 00:46:57.402
-I probably won’t see you until
next year, but maybe Tanglewood.
00:46:57.569 --> 00:47:02.670
-No, I think we’re going to hit off
on this boy to come out to Oakville.
00:47:03.658 --> 00:47:06.558
-All right, four second dissolve.
Hold on, there.
00:47:06.725 --> 00:47:08.113
Now, this is a music garden.
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:11.010
If you could just
focus-- Can you tell him?
00:47:11.370 --> 00:47:13.631
You focus a little. Focus.
00:47:14.942 --> 00:47:15.952
Better? Okay.
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:21.695
-This is a place to make music,
a concert hall without walls.
00:47:22.248 --> 00:47:27.561
[music]
00:47:27.884 --> 00:47:31.560
One of the things I think about
in playing this first suite,
00:47:32.220 --> 00:47:34.440
are elements that deal with nature.
00:47:34.890 --> 00:47:39.570
There seems to be an essence
for each wonderful work.
00:47:40.020 --> 00:47:44.010
It’s a seed that somehow
has a code within it,
00:47:44.340 --> 00:47:47.640
and you can take it from
one art form to another.
00:47:47.820 --> 00:47:49.663
You have to find the right climate,
00:47:49.830 --> 00:47:53.352
and the right soil for it
to grow in another way.
00:47:53.681 --> 00:48:00.681
[music]
00:50:54.166 --> 00:50:57.275
[applause]
00:50:57.717 --> 00:50:59.625
-The park will be built, I know.
00:50:59.792 --> 00:51:03.960
The kind of energy,
and passion, and spirit, the music,
00:51:04.616 --> 00:51:06.298
it will be built.
00:51:06.741 --> 00:51:10.341
-I happen to live here in this
area right across in the park,
00:51:10.530 --> 00:51:12.163
and I do have a minor concern,
00:51:12.330 --> 00:51:16.603
and that is if it’s going to be
a concert hall without walls,
00:51:16.770 --> 00:51:18.450
the way it was discussed.
00:51:18.750 --> 00:51:21.403
I would really be concerned of
how the hundreds of families that
00:51:21.570 --> 00:51:25.290
live here are going to get along
with the possibility of noise.
00:51:25.641 --> 00:51:26.873
-We’re just asking.
00:51:27.040 --> 00:51:28.813
-First of all,
you’re a fabulous musician.
00:51:28.980 --> 00:51:30.493
I knew that before I came.
00:51:30.660 --> 00:51:33.043
Secondly, if anything ever
happens to your cello,
00:51:33.210 --> 00:51:34.783
I’ll get you a hell
of a job as a sales
00:51:34.950 --> 00:51:37.200
marketing type in
the business world.
00:51:37.650 --> 00:51:39.643
Thirdly, I think we can
still work at all that.
00:51:39.810 --> 00:51:42.523
Come up to my balcony
and floor just up here,
00:51:42.690 --> 00:51:44.082
where you get a perfect look at it.
00:51:44.249 --> 00:51:45.292
-Great idea.
00:51:45.841 --> 00:51:47.498
-Maybe a gin and tonic.
00:51:47.665 --> 00:51:50.048
-What? [laughter]
00:51:51.064 --> 00:51:53.865
Listen. Now I’m offended. [laughter]
00:51:54.161 --> 00:51:55.766
[music]
00:51:56.033 --> 00:52:00.690
-The Gigue is in a way,
again, a fun, outward,
00:52:01.080 --> 00:52:06.433
bright open movement that has
to do with steps, and exiting,
00:52:06.600 --> 00:52:08.280
and leaving the piece.
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:11.561
It looks like we’ve
got the Sarabande soul.
00:52:11.728 --> 00:52:12.477
-It does look like.
00:52:12.644 --> 00:52:13.027
-Courante.
00:52:13.194 --> 00:52:13.998
-Yes.
00:52:14.165 --> 00:52:17.320
-Then there’s one other person
that hasn’t told us which one,
00:52:17.487 --> 00:52:19.970
but maybe the Minuet will be
the next one we could ask for.
00:52:20.137 --> 00:52:21.856
-Sure. Absolutely.
00:52:23.579 --> 00:52:25.925
He wrote this music at
a time during the only
00:52:26.092 --> 00:52:31.370
time that he was employed by
a secular employer. Anyway--
00:52:31.537 --> 00:52:33.078
-From there, we go into the Minuet.
00:52:33.245 --> 00:52:37.320
There’s a little pergola, a little
place where a quartet could play.
00:52:37.650 --> 00:52:39.338
People could sit on a boat.
00:52:40.674 --> 00:52:42.354
-I have a collaborator.
00:52:44.584 --> 00:52:45.639
-Now, of course,
00:52:45.806 --> 00:52:48.463
you can actually intersect this
garden any other way you want.
00:52:48.630 --> 00:52:51.373
You don’t have to go this way,
but I think it works.
00:52:51.540 --> 00:52:55.063
It’s interesting that the movements
are so different from each other,
00:52:55.230 --> 00:52:56.919
and they evoke such
different feeling,
00:52:57.086 --> 00:52:59.274
that the garden should do that too.
00:53:01.911 --> 00:53:03.401
-What’s it going to
cost to finish it?
00:53:03.568 --> 00:53:07.693
-To finish it, between a million and
a million and a half to finish it.
00:53:07.860 --> 00:53:11.113
In the end, I would hope that
we are going to be between
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:13.909
800 and a million dollars
within the next month.
00:53:14.076 --> 00:53:15.013
-That’s wonderful.
00:53:15.180 --> 00:53:19.903
-Which will be enough to
really get going on the [?]
00:53:20.070 --> 00:53:22.693
-The mayor and all of her fellow
elders, they don’t live down here.
00:53:22.860 --> 00:53:28.230
You will have peace and quiet, at
least from this side of the garden,
00:53:28.650 --> 00:53:31.333
if not from whatever boats
and ships that are out here.
00:53:31.500 --> 00:53:33.853
-You make a good point, there’s
a lot of background noise here,
00:53:34.020 --> 00:53:36.643
normal city background noise.
There’s a lot of it here.
00:53:36.810 --> 00:53:39.043
Until you stop and think about it,
you really don’t notice it,
00:53:39.210 --> 00:53:40.310
but there’s a lot of it.
00:53:40.477 --> 00:53:43.080
-I have a really great instrument.
One of the best instruments--
00:53:43.247 --> 00:53:44.139
-Do you want to go down and try it?
00:53:44.306 --> 00:53:44.935
-I would love to actually--
00:53:45.102 --> 00:53:46.513
-Do what you can.
Go ahead. Let’s go for it.
00:53:46.680 --> 00:53:50.702
-I would love to two minutes,
go play as loudly as I can,
00:53:50.869 --> 00:53:54.748
at the edge of that
garden right there.
00:53:54.915 --> 00:53:57.796
[music]
00:53:58.229 --> 00:53:59.579
-I can’t hear you.
00:54:00.202 --> 00:54:02.346
-We can hear the high notes.
00:54:02.778 --> 00:54:05.508
Play high, Yo-Yo. High.
00:54:07.059 --> 00:54:10.682
We can hear those.
We can’t hear the low notes.
00:54:15.889 --> 00:54:18.662
Yo-Yo, we are on a bumpy road.
00:54:18.986 --> 00:54:20.153
-It’s been bumpy a road.
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:25.294
-It’s been bumpy the whole way,
but I’m getting to like bumpy roads.
00:54:25.461 --> 00:54:29.015
-Yes, it’s not so bad. I even like
the color. I like this mound here.
00:54:29.182 --> 00:54:30.059
-I like the mound too.
00:54:30.226 --> 00:54:31.283
-It’s in the wrong place.
00:54:31.450 --> 00:54:33.673
-Let’s put it in the right place.
In two weeks, three weeks.
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:37.145
-Every time we come here, it’s in the
wrong place, and there’s only one.
00:54:37.312 --> 00:54:38.413
We need three.
00:54:38.580 --> 00:54:40.936
-They’re going to come. Trust me.
00:54:41.487 --> 00:54:42.197
-I trust you.
00:54:42.364 --> 00:54:46.444
-Trust me. They’re coming, and I
feel very optimistic about it today.
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:47.534
-You do?
00:54:47.701 --> 00:54:48.540
-Do I seem optimistic?
00:54:48.707 --> 00:54:52.033
-Yes. I don’t think you
just seem optimistic,
00:54:52.428 --> 00:54:54.711
I think you really believe
it’s going to happen.
00:54:54.878 --> 00:54:56.878
-Something transformed recently.
00:54:57.746 --> 00:55:02.383
One of the things that transformed
was knowing that the film
00:55:02.550 --> 00:55:05.263
was going to finish without
necessarily having this done,
00:55:05.430 --> 00:55:07.005
and that it was okay.
00:55:07.530 --> 00:55:10.204
Secondly, knowing that the words
00:55:10.371 --> 00:55:12.960
‘Music Garden’ are
selling themselves.
00:55:14.535 --> 00:55:18.570
-You started sowing the seed.
00:55:18.902 --> 00:55:20.025
-With you.
00:55:20.192 --> 00:55:23.552
-There’s an idea out there
and that has tremendous value.
00:55:24.449 --> 00:55:28.747
There’s the process part, which
has been unbelievably enjoyable.
00:55:29.769 --> 00:55:30.677
-Rich.
00:55:30.844 --> 00:55:34.453
-We’re walking here.
We’ve seen gorgeous places.
00:55:34.620 --> 00:55:38.053
We’ve talked to fantastic
people who are just as committed
00:55:38.220 --> 00:55:41.850
in their part of the work
as we might be in ours,
00:55:42.090 --> 00:55:44.990
and we’re all connected through
wanting to make something happen.
00:55:45.157 --> 00:55:46.807
That’s been fantastic.
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:52.830
The goal is it’s so thrilling
to think that actually,
00:55:53.190 --> 00:55:57.073
people might take this on
and use it and use it well,
00:55:57.506 --> 00:55:59.113
and enjoy it and make-- Hopefully,
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:03.898
if it makes a tiny bit of difference
in an urban person’s life,
00:56:04.227 --> 00:56:05.071
it’s been worth it.
00:56:05.238 --> 00:56:05.986
-It’s been worth it.
00:56:06.153 --> 00:56:07.792
[applause]
00:56:08.120 --> 00:56:13.933
-I’m delighted to announce today
that pledges and guarantees
00:56:14.100 --> 00:56:16.033
of a Million dollars
have been achieved
00:56:16.200 --> 00:56:18.225
so that the garden can go ahead.
00:56:18.392 --> 00:56:19.215
-The triumvirate.
00:56:19.382 --> 00:56:21.794
[applause]
00:56:22.008 --> 00:56:26.383
-It’s the end of a journey,
because it’s the end of a film,
00:56:26.550 --> 00:56:29.640
but it’s also the
beginning of another one,
00:56:29.820 --> 00:56:33.383
which is the beginning of the
construction of this garden.
00:56:33.631 --> 00:56:40.456
I’m really very, very moved to be
here in front of you at this moment.
00:56:40.785 --> 00:56:44.162
It’s taken a long time,
but boy, it’s really worth it.
00:56:44.329 --> 00:56:51.329
[music]
00:57:20.923 --> 00:57:24.509
-In a way, it’s a time that brought
00:57:25.378 --> 00:57:32.332
a dream to a certain place
where it could become reality.
00:57:32.769 --> 00:57:39.769
[music]
00:58:36.914 --> 00:58:43.914
[water splashing]
Distributor: Bullfrog Films
Length: 57 minutes
Date: 1998
Genre: Expository
Language: Not available
Grade: 7-12, College, Adult
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