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[engine revving]

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[Emily]
Okay, babe.

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Mama's gotta do
a couple minutes of...

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how do I test this camera?

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[Sophie]
[indistinct]

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[David]
You can just open Zoom.

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You can just go into Zoom.

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Mommy.

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Sophie, Mom's
gotta do a little...

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Why you go to work?
Mommy, don't work.

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Sophie, Mama's gotta do
some work for a minute.

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[Sophie cries]

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- [Emily] Sophie, don't cry.
- [David] Do you have the app?

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This is all I have.

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[David]

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Are you gonna put that
on a tripod?

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[David speaking]

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What are you gonna do
with it about Sophie?

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[David]
She's sitting there watching.

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[Woman]
Here we go.

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[Sophie]
I don't want this!

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[Whurley]
Hello. How are you?

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I know you've got
a lot of people, uh,

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vying for your
attention right now,

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- so I'm lucky that I...
- Well, what is it?

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I'm happy
to hear about it.

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So here's what the venture is.

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It's called The 19th*.

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You know, 70% of top
newspaper editors are men.

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Almost all of them
are white.

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And what that means is
that those are the people

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deciding what's news
and what isn't.

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And The 19th* is the country's
first non-profit,

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non-partisan newsroom

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at the intersection of women,
politics, and policy.

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The environment
we're in right now,

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um, candidly,
is pretty terrifying.

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The coronavirus took
a lot of wind out of our sails.

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So what's terrifying
about that

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'cause you're just a startup,

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so that should
be terrifying.

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[both laugh]

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- I mean...
- Maybe you...

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maybe you don't understand
what you're doing...

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- No, I mean...
- ...because,

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you know, you worry
about the virus.

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You're at a startup,

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are you insane?
Like...

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- I know my, my tech...
- And that... and...

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- and just to clear the air...
- Yeah.

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...I'm out 'cause
I can't do anything

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until this
transaction's done.

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I don't know if you know,
but I work

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with the couple of other
journalism schools

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and I think journalism is dead
in America right now.

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Oh, that's such
a tragic statement,

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But it's very upsetting.

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I mean, oh, my God.
It's very upsetting.

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You know, I... I find that most
great startups are founded

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in horrible times like this,
economically, whatever.

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- Um, and all...
- God, that's reassuring.

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- Thank you.
- Well, all of...

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all of mine have been,

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who do you know
from kind of my world,

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like women
in the tech world?

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Not many. I mean,
that's the first hurdle.

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And I... and I all of a sudden
can actually be useful to you.

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- [laughs]
- Amazing. Amazing.

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[Whurley]
Uh, send me a mail

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that I can send to some

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of my female friends.

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[News anchor]
Newsrooms across the country

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have long been accused
of failing to represent

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the communities they cover.

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♪♪

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[News anchor]
Stuff in the paper.

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That's not true.
Do you know that?

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- All I know is...
- ...is what you read

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in the damn newspaper.

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♪♪

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[News anchor]
Now this is Joe,

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a photographer from The Star,

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and over there is Charlie,
a reporter.

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Don Paterson, Valley Time.

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Good evening,
I'm Roger Grimsby here.

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Now the news.

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I'm John Slattery.

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I'm Roger Sharp.

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I'm Bob.

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I'm Bob Lee.

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- Bill.
- [Bill] Thank you, Vince.

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- Roger.
- Woodword, Bernstein,

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you're both on the story
now don't fuck it up.

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He said, "You know what?
You should not take this job

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because women have
no news judgment

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and you can't carry the camera."

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♪♪

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People have asked if I want
to be called an anchor man

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or anchor woman
or anchor person.

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I even remember saying,

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"We should do something
on this women's movement."

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And he wrote back,
"Not enough interest."

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[News anchor] The problems
with diversity and media

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have existed since
the creation of media.

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People will think...

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...what I tell 'em to think.

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Let's just look at Air Check
over the last 30 days

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and see how many people of color
appear on their air,

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because there's very, very few.

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[News interviewee]
If you don't have enough women,

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if you don't have enough
Black people

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or other people of color,

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you are going
to miss a lot.

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[News anchor]
You're beginning to think

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that the tube is reality.

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You're beginning to believe

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the illusions
we're spinning here.

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Morning Star,
read all about it.

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Morning paper.

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[Promo crew]
I would try to read it

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with a little bit of a smile.

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- [Emily] Okay.
- Okay?

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[Emily] Yep.

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[Promo crew] Um, you don't have
to have a huge smile.

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- Yeah.
- But a little bit of a smile.

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You sounded very serious.
We're...

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- I should sound happy.
- We're... we're more excited

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- about this.
- Yeah.

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[Promo crew]
Let's be excited about it.

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It's hard to be smiling
when you say

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we remain marginalized
and go,

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we remain marginalized
in government and elected. Yeah.

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Um, not really because it...

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you can't separate that
from Donald Trump

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and I don't wanna talk
about Donald Trump

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in this launch video.

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[Promo crew]
Okay.

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[Emily]
I have grown up

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in a journalism environment

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where I was often the youngest
person in the room.

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Frequently the only woman
in the room.

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We wanna bring in, uh,
Emily Ramshaw

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from The Texas Tribune.

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She's had a chance to,

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uh, observe all of this.

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Bill Clinton
is a fan favorite

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for Texas Democrats.

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When this idea
first occurred to me,

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I was on maternity leave,

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I had a brand new baby girl.

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Donald Trump had just
been inaugurated.

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There was women's marches

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taking place
all over the country.

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The #MeToo movement
was picking up speed.

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I thought women deserved

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a destination news platform
that is just for them.

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It felt like a huge hole
in the media environment

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that we needed to fill.

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[Amanda] I spent
the better part of my 20s

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working my way across
the Washington Post newsroom.

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I've worked at ProPublica

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and I had been
at The Texas Tribune going on

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four years, I had started being
a lot more attentive

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to just the failures

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of political journalism
in particular.

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[News anchor] Joining me now
from Washington

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is Errin Haines.

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She is a national writer
for the Associated Press.

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I think that it really
highlights the idea

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that the legacy
of slavery in Jim Crow

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is in fact not passed.

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My dream job was to be
a national race writer

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for the Associated Press.

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Like that was what I felt

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like was my best and highest use
as a journalist.

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But we knew how huge
of a story race was

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and yet we weren't saying
that as a newsroom.

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Like as a newsroom,
it was not a priority.

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And that's not something
that's restricted

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to the Associated Press
that is an industry-wide issue.

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All right. Come on, G.

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You want some breakfast?

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[whirring]

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Oh, man.

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Hi, Ginger.

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You may appreciate
my coffee mug for the day.

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I just realized that.

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OG Suffragist Abigail Adams.

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I got this at the Museum
of the American Revolution.

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It's my favorite place.

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Come on, Ginger, let's go.

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When we were growing up,
I was not allowed

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to watch television
during dinner

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unless we were watching
the news.

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So if I wanted to watch TV,
which I usually did,

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that meant that I was gonna,
uh, watch the news.

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The main anchor on my favorite
television station

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was a Black woman,
Monica Kaufman...

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The crowded field
of presidential candidates

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has one less man today...

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[Errin] ...who was on air
for most of my life.

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I didn't even realize
that there were

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stations that didn't have
a Black woman

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delivering the news every day

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because I'm from Atlanta

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and most stations had
at least one Black woman.

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That showed me
what was possible.

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And also she just encouraged
my curiosity.

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You know,
I asked a lot of questions.

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I was nosy as hell.

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Uh, that didn't hurt.

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- Yeah.
- [Andrea] What's up?

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Well, you know, I swear I...

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I don't try to break news,

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but you know, the news
comes to me and...

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[Andrea]
That's how it goes.

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...that's what's
happened tonight.

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Uh, so here's where we are.

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Biden campaign just hit me up.

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They have bagged
Corrine John Pierre

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as senior advisor.

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- [Andrea] That's great.
- [Errin] Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, The Times is
sniffing around on this

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and they're giving it
to us exclusively.

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- [Andrea] Very nice.
- All right,

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well I'll hit up Terry

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and I'll keep you posted.

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[Andrea]
All right, sounds good.

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All right. Later.

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- [Andrea] All right. Bye.
- Bye.

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♪♪

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[laptop dings]

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[Emily]
Hi, good morning.

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Welcome to our brave new world

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of, uh, all virtual meetings,
all virtual conferencing.

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Just speak briefly to like
the editorial strategy.

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I mean, this crisis
is really, um,

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exacerbating
inequality right now.

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[Andrea] I mean,
I think that we are seeing

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clearly what is one
of the biggest stories

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probably in our lifetimes

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taking place right now.
And while this is happening,

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of course the 2020
election continues.

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You know, while we are sort of
in this holding pattern,

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trying to figure out especially
what the next couple of weeks

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look like, um, you know,

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Johanna is sort of moving
full speed ahead

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to try to lure in
corporate sponsors,

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launch sponsors at a time of
great uncertainty for them too.

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[Johanna]
There's whole industries

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and certainly companies

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that I am not gonna
reach out to right now

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as they're
furloughing employees.

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[Amy] At a time when
many journalists are risking

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their lives to cover one
of the most significant stories

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of their lifetime,

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media companies
are slashing jobs and salaries.

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Over the past week, hundreds
of journalists at Vice, Quartz,

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The Economist, BuzzFeed,
Conde Nast, have been laid off.

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[Charles]
I think the crisis

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in journalism in America

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has become a real crisis
for our democracy.

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Uh, we are about
to get on the phone

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with the Pulitzer Center
for Crisis Reporting,

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which is an organization, um,

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that provides emergency support
to news organizations

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during times of crisis.

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We are currently publishing
with the Washington Post

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with our full launch anticipated
for this summer.

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We have so far only had
one reporter, Errin Haines.

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You know, we are simply trying
to keep this brand new

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nonprofit venture, uh, afloat
and perform this kind of work.

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The kind of support, in general,
I think is a...

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is more of a stretch.

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Yeah, I don't know,
20 or 25 proposals

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in the last week or so
from all over the world.

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Right now, we're more
at like 40 proposals, uh...

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- [Emily] Wow.
- ...John.

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It'll be 41 applications
pretty soon here.

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I'm sure. [laughs]

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They have a... I mean,
there are a lot of people

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who need a lot right now.

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Um, I'll remain optimistic,
uh...

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[laughs]

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But I think we are, uh,
in really stiff competition

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for a lot of these
grant dollars right now,

00:11:41.284 --> 00:11:45.162
and honestly, like,
as it should be, so...

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Don't do a close-up on my nails
because I haven't been able

00:11:50.209 --> 00:11:53.004
to have a manicure
since the coronavirus.

00:11:53.087 --> 00:11:56.883
[laughs]

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[Amanda]
I just need you

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to keep also being like

00:12:00.887 --> 00:12:03.055
not the person who's
with the foot on the gas,

00:12:03.139 --> 00:12:06.017
but is looking for ways
to tell me not to do things.

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- Okay.
- [Amanda] To just wait,

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because this week

00:12:08.936 --> 00:12:10.563
was just way too much.

00:12:10.647 --> 00:12:12.690
I mean, just to be candid,
like this week

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was super hard for me too

00:12:14.233 --> 00:12:15.693
because I'm starting to feel

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like we were mentioning
on the phone,

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I'm starting to feel
the financial pinch.

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[Amanda]
I mean, the problem is that

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I have these expectations too.

00:12:22.700 --> 00:12:24.994
Like, I want us to be a real
news operation and we're not.

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[Sophie]
Mommy, can I work?

00:12:29.291 --> 00:12:30.625
Can you? What? What?

00:12:30.708 --> 00:12:32.335
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:12:32.419 --> 00:12:33.878
Put... please put that
gently on the couch.

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I need to work.

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[Emily]
You need... oh, you need to work?

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Journalism is really
the only thing

00:12:40.302 --> 00:12:42.053
I ever wanted to do.

00:12:42.136 --> 00:12:44.597
My parents are both
political journalists.

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I grew up, you know,
having family vacations

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occasionally derailed by wars
or philandering presidents.

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And for me it was just obvious.

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I was, you know, the editor
of the high school newspaper.

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I went to journalism
school for college.

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It's been the only thing
I ever wanted to do,

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and it's the only thing

00:13:06.453 --> 00:13:07.912
I ever want to do
going forward.

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[Sophie]
♪ Twinkle, twinkle ♪

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♪ Little star ♪

00:13:12.709 --> 00:13:15.169
♪ How I wonder... ♪

00:13:15.252 --> 00:13:17.505
Watch me jump.

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Mommy, watch me jump.

00:13:20.091 --> 00:13:24.178
[chuckles] Watch me
pour myself a stiff drink.

00:13:24.261 --> 00:13:25.888
I mean,
what keeps me up at night

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is ensuring that I can pay
the salaries

00:13:27.890 --> 00:13:29.392
of these extraordinary women

00:13:29.476 --> 00:13:31.268
who have left their stable jobs

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to be part of this,
only to have their lives

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turned upside down.

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You know, I also fear fucking
up being a mom right now.

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[keyboard clacking]

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♪♪

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[Andrea]
Errin, we were just talking

00:13:55.668 --> 00:13:57.294
a little bit about stories
that we had going.

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Is there anything else
that you're thinking about?

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Um, so you guys have seen
the Ahmaud Arbery case,

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uh, but there's also a woman
who has been killed,

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uh, who has gotten
less attention.

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Um, and so I am,

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um, actually kind of

00:14:15.730 --> 00:14:18.149
trying to familiarize
myself with that one.

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Her name is, uh...
her name was Breonna Taylor.

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Uh, 26 years old.

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Same age as Ahmaud Arbery.

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Um, and she was shot
eight times.

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Um, and, uh,

00:14:28.743 --> 00:14:30.703
this happened about
two months ago.

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I talked to Ben Krump, who,

00:14:32.539 --> 00:14:34.666
uh, represented Trayvon Martin
and everybody else.

00:14:34.749 --> 00:14:37.251
He is representing
this family as well.

00:14:37.334 --> 00:14:39.504
They are offering us
the print exclusive today.

00:14:39.587 --> 00:14:41.714
Okay.
Oh, my gosh.

00:14:44.426 --> 00:14:46.428
[Errin] We know that Black men
are the majority of,

00:14:46.511 --> 00:14:49.263
of the folks who are killed
in these kinds of incidents.

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It does happen to Black women,
and when it does,

00:14:52.434 --> 00:14:54.894
those cases don't always
get as much attention.

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And so that's why I felt like

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it was our story to tell.

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♪♪

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Uh, am I leaving anything out?

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♪♪

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I am joined by Errin Haines,

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editor-at-large for The 19th*.

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This was a story that I frankly
had not been aware of.

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A lot of national media,
I think was not aware of.

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Errin, um, your story in,
uh, The Washington Post,

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I think has moved a lot of this.

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- [indistinct chanting]
- [Protestors] Breonna Taylor.

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- [indistinct chanting]
- [Protestors] Breonna Taylor.

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[Kamala]
Breonna Taylor.

00:16:00.417 --> 00:16:02.169
There should be
an investigation.

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I felt gratified that I was able

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to get that story to put it out.

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Um, and that we did
that story as The 19th*.

00:16:18.477 --> 00:16:22.649
Um, like I wanted her story told

00:16:22.732 --> 00:16:26.027
and I felt good that I was the
one that was able to tell it.

00:16:27.028 --> 00:16:30.948
Um, but then when I got up
the next morning,

00:16:31.032 --> 00:16:32.742
you know, I'm scrolling
and I keep seeing this story

00:16:32.825 --> 00:16:35.077
being reposted
and like every time

00:16:35.161 --> 00:16:36.663
that the story is reposted,

00:16:36.746 --> 00:16:38.540
her picture would be
with the story.

00:16:38.623 --> 00:16:40.416
It was just a really
good picture of her.

00:16:40.499 --> 00:16:44.086
And she is only
a couple years older

00:16:44.170 --> 00:16:48.132
than my niece whose
whole life was ahead of her.

00:16:50.092 --> 00:16:54.263
Like, I'd forgotten,
like, um, how it feels

00:16:54.346 --> 00:16:57.266
on the other side
of writing about it.

00:16:57.349 --> 00:17:00.269
Like... like Black Lives Matter
is a story

00:17:00.352 --> 00:17:04.899
that Black journalists
are also living through.

00:17:04.982 --> 00:17:07.359
Like, you know,

00:17:07.443 --> 00:17:08.986
I could...
I could also be a person

00:17:09.070 --> 00:17:11.405
that this could happen to.

00:17:14.366 --> 00:17:16.368
♪♪

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[Emily] Errin, you were right
to push for this.

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My knee jerk was,
that wasn't a story for us.

00:17:25.336 --> 00:17:27.088
And the... that was
the wrong knee-jerk.

00:17:27.171 --> 00:17:28.798
I was on the phone
with Melinda Gates' people

00:17:28.881 --> 00:17:31.217
this morning and they were all
on a conference call

00:17:31.300 --> 00:17:33.845
talking about that case
when the newsletter

00:17:33.928 --> 00:17:35.387
came through and they were
like, oh, my God,

00:17:35.471 --> 00:17:37.599
it was The 19th*
that broke this story.

00:17:37.682 --> 00:17:39.601
You know, Kamala Harris
talking about it.

00:17:39.684 --> 00:17:42.687
That story gave us
a lot of runway yesterday.

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This is an issue that's
on the ballot for Black voters.

00:17:45.147 --> 00:17:47.149
Um, racism is on the ballot
for Black voters.

00:17:47.233 --> 00:17:49.694
The issue of whether Black
people can be safe in America

00:17:49.777 --> 00:17:51.528
is on the ballot
for Black voters,

00:17:51.613 --> 00:17:53.489
you know, for the women
who are being killed

00:17:53.572 --> 00:17:56.408
and also the women whose
loved ones are being killed.

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Soraya, you were talking about
in this national reckoning,

00:18:04.291 --> 00:18:06.293
allyship and accompliceship.

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I work in a newsroom that's
named for the 19th Amendment,

00:18:09.213 --> 00:18:11.007
uh, but... but with an asterisk
in our logo

00:18:11.090 --> 00:18:13.843
for the omission of...
of the Black women

00:18:13.926 --> 00:18:15.928
who were frankly sacrificed

00:18:16.012 --> 00:18:17.930
so that white women could get
their access to the ballot.

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Uh, what have they done with it?

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You know,
used that access largely

00:18:21.392 --> 00:18:24.395
to uphold systems of patriarchy
and oppression. Right?

00:18:24.478 --> 00:18:27.815
So, you know,
that is a dynamic that persists,

00:18:27.899 --> 00:18:30.276
uh, and it's a dynamic
that we have to confront.

00:18:33.445 --> 00:18:36.741
A group of us met at this
like super clandestine meeting

00:18:36.824 --> 00:18:39.535
in Austin and really kind of
hammered out the vision

00:18:39.618 --> 00:18:42.579
for the newsroom, including,
you know, the name

00:18:42.664 --> 00:18:44.666
because Emily wanted to name it
for the 19th Amendment,

00:18:44.749 --> 00:18:47.459
but was fully aware that
that amendment

00:18:47.543 --> 00:18:49.503
had a complicated history.

00:18:49.586 --> 00:18:51.923
And so I suggested
that we put the asterisk on.

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You know, the asterisk
is also really helpful

00:18:54.884 --> 00:18:57.553
shorthand for us, editorially.

00:18:57.636 --> 00:18:59.513
Everything that I write,
you know, I'm trying to think,

00:18:59.596 --> 00:19:01.933
you know, who... whose voice
are we not including?

00:19:02.016 --> 00:19:04.560
Who else can we bring
into this conversation?

00:19:04.643 --> 00:19:07.396
What is the question
that we, uh, could ask

00:19:07.479 --> 00:19:11.025
that will actually
get us to some insight,

00:19:11.108 --> 00:19:14.445
something that we
didn't actually know before?

00:19:14.528 --> 00:19:15.529
♪♪

00:19:25.707 --> 00:19:27.583
[Amanda]
Okay, we just got a little bit

00:19:27.666 --> 00:19:29.668
more to do and then we're done.

00:19:29.752 --> 00:19:31.838
Then you can clock out.

00:19:31.921 --> 00:19:33.630
Then you can clock out, girl.

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[barks]

00:19:36.133 --> 00:19:39.011
[Amanda speaking Spanish]

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She can't help it.

00:19:45.101 --> 00:19:47.019
She's a precrastinator.

00:19:47.103 --> 00:19:48.938
Oh, my God.
There's a blog post

00:19:49.021 --> 00:19:51.690
on Scientific America.
It's like an actual thing.

00:19:51.774 --> 00:19:54.443
"Precrastination is
the tendency to work on tasks

00:19:54.526 --> 00:19:56.320
at the earliest opportunity,

00:19:56.403 --> 00:20:00.032
even if it means more work
or comes with extra costs."

00:20:00.116 --> 00:20:03.369
The opposite of what we're
trying to do here at The 19th*.

00:20:04.746 --> 00:20:07.790
Emily sat me down and she said,

00:20:07.874 --> 00:20:10.918
"What would you think
if we left The Tribune

00:20:11.002 --> 00:20:13.670
to start a new nonprofit,
uh, for women,

00:20:13.755 --> 00:20:16.132
um, covering politics
and policy for women?"

00:20:16.215 --> 00:20:18.717
The first question
that I had for her was

00:20:18.801 --> 00:20:21.888
to make sure
that this wasn't gonna be

00:20:21.971 --> 00:20:25.057
just another media
property for progressive,

00:20:25.141 --> 00:20:26.976
uh, white women.

00:20:27.059 --> 00:20:30.562
I know that being Hispanic,
being a Latina,

00:20:30.646 --> 00:20:32.564
I'm sure helped,

00:20:32.648 --> 00:20:34.776
you know, newsrooms who...
[chuckles]

00:20:34.859 --> 00:20:37.403
...could tally me
in their diversity reports

00:20:37.486 --> 00:20:40.156
and then at the same time
take advantage

00:20:40.239 --> 00:20:43.325
of my perceived whiteness
to just say

00:20:43.409 --> 00:20:45.953
and do things
that are not okay.

00:20:46.037 --> 00:20:47.872
I want to create an environment
where others

00:20:47.955 --> 00:20:50.291
who have come up
like I came up,

00:20:50.374 --> 00:20:52.209
don't feel like
they're in the position

00:20:52.293 --> 00:20:53.710
that I was in anymore.

00:20:53.795 --> 00:20:56.923
Is there anything else
before you go?

00:20:57.006 --> 00:20:59.008
[Emily] Nope. Uh, per the
Slack message,

00:20:59.091 --> 00:21:00.843
I'm not gonna, uh,
worry about that tonight.

00:21:00.927 --> 00:21:02.469
- Good. Good.
- And, um,

00:21:02.553 --> 00:21:04.013
I'm going
to see Andrea right now.

00:21:04.096 --> 00:21:05.722
Okay, good.
Tell her I said hi.

00:21:05.807 --> 00:21:07.224
- I will.
- All right. Have a good one.

00:21:07.308 --> 00:21:08.893
- All right. Bye.
- Bye.

00:21:14.106 --> 00:21:16.025
Hey,

00:21:16.108 --> 00:21:17.819
I'll start with some good news.

00:21:17.902 --> 00:21:19.445
Who needs some good news?

00:21:19.528 --> 00:21:21.989
- [All] Woo.
- [Errin] All of us, everyone.

00:21:22.073 --> 00:21:24.283
Well, the first good news
was this morning

00:21:24.366 --> 00:21:27.619
Melinda Gates's $500,000 gift
got confirmed.

00:21:27.703 --> 00:21:30.873
We also this morning got another
hundred-thousand-dollar gift

00:21:30.957 --> 00:21:33.084
from a young
woman philanthropist,

00:21:33.167 --> 00:21:35.127
which is awesome.
So we are hiring,

00:21:35.211 --> 00:21:36.879
uh, Women
and the Economy reporter,

00:21:36.963 --> 00:21:38.630
Women and Healthcare reporter.

00:21:38.714 --> 00:21:41.092
We have just hired
a congressional correspondent.

00:21:41.175 --> 00:21:42.176
♪♪

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[Bernie]
The federal minimum wage

00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.478
has not been raised
by Congress since 2007.

00:21:52.561 --> 00:21:53.855
Technically it wasn't.

00:21:53.938 --> 00:21:55.522
Didn't go
into effect until 2009.

00:21:55.606 --> 00:21:56.858
[Bernie]
...raise $15 an hour

00:21:56.941 --> 00:21:58.567
the right thing to do,

00:21:58.650 --> 00:22:00.402
it is also what
the overwhelming majority

00:22:00.486 --> 00:22:02.613
of Americans want us to do.

00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:05.407
[Chabeli]
Stop licking.

00:22:06.492 --> 00:22:07.701
Stop licking, Flynn.

00:22:07.784 --> 00:22:10.329
Goddamn it.

00:22:10.412 --> 00:22:14.166
Well, I feel like
I made some progress. [laughs]

00:22:14.250 --> 00:22:16.043
[Manny]
How much are you trying to get?

00:22:16.127 --> 00:22:17.836
Well, I'm not trying
to get to anything.

00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:20.965
I actually probably cannot
turn in something this long.

00:22:21.048 --> 00:22:22.967
What are you doing here?

00:22:23.050 --> 00:22:24.510
Can you explain to me
what you're doing here?

00:22:24.593 --> 00:22:26.012
- Did you put oil on that?
- No, just water.

00:22:26.095 --> 00:22:27.721
- Oh.
- I'm just cleaning it

00:22:27.804 --> 00:22:29.098
a little bit.

00:22:30.849 --> 00:22:32.559
I have to call my mother.

00:22:32.643 --> 00:22:34.520
[Manny]
She FaceTimes her mom

00:22:34.603 --> 00:22:37.982
whether she's driving,
eating...

00:22:38.065 --> 00:22:40.859
[Chabeli speaking Spanish]

00:22:40.943 --> 00:22:42.736
[speaking Spanish]

00:22:42.819 --> 00:22:45.697
[speaking Spanish]

00:22:45.781 --> 00:22:47.116
[Manny speaking Spanish]

00:22:47.199 --> 00:22:51.412
[speaking Spanish]

00:22:51.495 --> 00:22:52.871
[woman speaking Spanish]

00:22:52.955 --> 00:22:56.792
[speaking Spanish]

00:22:56.875 --> 00:22:58.835
[Manny speaking Spanish]

00:22:58.920 --> 00:23:01.338
[woman speaking Spanish]

00:23:01.422 --> 00:23:03.215
[Chabeli in English]
Wow, bro.

00:23:04.050 --> 00:23:06.593
I've been a reporter
in Florida for a few years.

00:23:06.677 --> 00:23:09.596
I worked at the Miami Herald
and at the Orlando Sentinel.

00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:11.765
I wasn't just
looking at this job

00:23:11.848 --> 00:23:13.809
because it was a national job.
I was looking at the job...

00:23:13.892 --> 00:23:17.854
the job because of what
the coverage area called for,

00:23:17.939 --> 00:23:19.773
because they were
looking at a group of people

00:23:19.856 --> 00:23:21.233
that I cared a lot about.

00:23:21.317 --> 00:23:22.944
Um, you know, people of color

00:23:23.027 --> 00:23:24.987
and women and LGBTQ folks,

00:23:25.071 --> 00:23:27.198
people on the margins.
That's what I wanted to cover.

00:23:27.281 --> 00:23:29.408
My mom was an engineer in Cuba,

00:23:29.491 --> 00:23:32.578
but she didn't renew
that title here.

00:23:32.661 --> 00:23:34.163
It was actually fairly
complicated to do that.

00:23:34.246 --> 00:23:37.499
So she worked
as a housekeeper.

00:23:37.583 --> 00:23:39.626
My aunt is a home care worker

00:23:39.710 --> 00:23:42.463
and my uncle
works in construction.

00:23:43.755 --> 00:23:46.842
Over time, I had found
that covering workers and labor

00:23:46.925 --> 00:23:49.303
have become a really big
interest of mine in particular,

00:23:49.386 --> 00:23:51.847
and especially
marginalized communities.

00:23:53.057 --> 00:23:56.060
I think those were the stories
I could identify with the most,

00:23:56.143 --> 00:24:00.564
and they were not the stories
that were being written.

00:24:00.647 --> 00:24:02.984
[Woman]
Passing this minimum wage bill

00:24:03.067 --> 00:24:05.236
would do more to close
the pay equity gap

00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:07.404
than pretty much
any other single measure

00:24:07.488 --> 00:24:09.948
you could take now than just...

00:24:10.032 --> 00:24:13.035
[keyboard clacking]

00:24:24.546 --> 00:24:27.216
I like that Viacom still sends
me stuff like I work there.

00:24:27.299 --> 00:24:28.842
"A savings benefit just for you.

00:24:28.925 --> 00:24:31.678
Open your special Viacom
employee discount code."

00:24:31.762 --> 00:24:36.600
I'm like, I don't work
for... you laid me off.

00:24:39.270 --> 00:24:41.897
This is a list of the signers
of The Promise

00:24:41.980 --> 00:24:46.818
to protect America's children
from transgender people.

00:24:46.902 --> 00:24:49.571
It's written
by Southern Poverty Law Center,

00:24:49.655 --> 00:24:54.118
um, designated hate groups.

00:24:54.201 --> 00:24:55.786
And I'm looking
at the people

00:24:55.869 --> 00:24:57.079
who have signed
onto The Promise.

00:24:57.163 --> 00:24:58.539
This is state lawmakers

00:24:58.622 --> 00:25:01.667
and I'm trying to compare it
to states

00:25:01.750 --> 00:25:04.336
where anti-trans
legislation has been filed.

00:25:06.838 --> 00:25:09.216
Blake Thompson, bingo.

00:25:09.300 --> 00:25:10.551
There he is.

00:25:13.595 --> 00:25:15.681
Before I was at The 19th*,

00:25:15.764 --> 00:25:18.309
I was doing
national LGBTQ news

00:25:18.392 --> 00:25:20.769
mostly for NBC.

00:25:21.895 --> 00:25:25.649
I was tired of writing news
for clicks, for ads.

00:25:25.732 --> 00:25:28.235
My whole life
I wanted to do the stories

00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:31.280
that I felt
like I needed to read

00:25:31.363 --> 00:25:33.074
that weren't being
covered elsewhere.

00:25:33.157 --> 00:25:34.700
And I was always frustrated

00:25:34.783 --> 00:25:37.494
when I felt
like six other media outlets

00:25:37.578 --> 00:25:39.163
were doing a story.

00:25:39.246 --> 00:25:41.498
And an editor
came to me and was like,

00:25:41.582 --> 00:25:42.874
"Would you cover this?"

00:25:42.958 --> 00:25:44.376
And I wanted to be like, "Why?"

00:25:44.460 --> 00:25:45.877
It's already being covered.

00:25:45.961 --> 00:25:48.130
Like, why do
we need to do the thing

00:25:48.214 --> 00:25:49.631
that's already out there?

00:25:49.715 --> 00:25:52.134
At The 19th*, the purpose is

00:25:52.218 --> 00:25:54.303
let's create
the thing that's not,

00:25:54.386 --> 00:25:55.762
that's not created. Right?

00:25:55.846 --> 00:25:58.390
And I feel really lucky

00:25:58.474 --> 00:26:00.434
to be in a position
where that's the work

00:26:00.517 --> 00:26:02.186
that I get to do now.

00:26:04.396 --> 00:26:05.606
Jena Powell.

00:26:06.815 --> 00:26:08.234
Ohio.

00:26:10.402 --> 00:26:12.070
Don't leave Ohio out.

00:26:13.322 --> 00:26:15.449
Midwest represent.

00:26:15.532 --> 00:26:19.035
H-B-6-1.

00:26:21.205 --> 00:26:23.582
- [sighs]
- [computer dings]

00:26:23.665 --> 00:26:25.083
Hey, Kate.

00:26:25.167 --> 00:26:27.294
- Good morning.
- [Amanda B] Errin.

00:26:27.378 --> 00:26:28.754
In your TV hit this morning,

00:26:28.837 --> 00:26:30.422
did I see Ginger
in the background,

00:26:30.506 --> 00:26:32.216
- or was that a shadow?
- [Errin] Oh, probably.

00:26:32.299 --> 00:26:34.593
She sits in the chair with me
so she doesn't act a fool.

00:26:34.676 --> 00:26:36.262
[Emily] For everyone
who wants to know what this is,

00:26:36.345 --> 00:26:37.513
by the way,
we're about to show you

00:26:37.596 --> 00:26:39.140
the full launch trailer

00:26:39.223 --> 00:26:40.849
video for The 19th*.

00:26:40.932 --> 00:26:43.185
We are firm believers
that all issues

00:26:43.269 --> 00:26:44.436
are women's issues.

00:26:44.520 --> 00:26:45.937
Our goal is to launch

00:26:46.021 --> 00:26:47.773
the first newsroom
that is truly

00:26:47.856 --> 00:26:49.858
reflective
of the nation's women.

00:26:49.941 --> 00:26:51.735
There's more women running now
than ever have been before.

00:26:51.818 --> 00:26:53.612
The newsrooms need
to be more inclusive.

00:26:53.695 --> 00:26:55.697
They need to better
reflect their communities.

00:26:55.781 --> 00:26:57.741
The 19th* has
the opportunity to do that

00:26:57.824 --> 00:26:59.034
from the ground floor,
and we're not

00:26:59.117 --> 00:27:00.536
wasting that opportunity.

00:27:04.415 --> 00:27:05.791
Kate?

00:27:05.874 --> 00:27:07.584
Yeah, one thing
I'm curious about,

00:27:07.668 --> 00:27:10.879
um, you know, we're...
we talk a lot about women,

00:27:10.962 --> 00:27:12.589
which is the market.

00:27:12.673 --> 00:27:15.301
Um, and I'm wondering
if there's any plan

00:27:15.384 --> 00:27:17.135
to talk about the fact

00:27:17.219 --> 00:27:20.138
that The 19th*
is really gender inclusive,

00:27:20.222 --> 00:27:22.683
um, in terms of, you know,

00:27:22.766 --> 00:27:25.602
trans women
and gender diversity,

00:27:25.686 --> 00:27:28.814
um, in terms
of trans people generally,

00:27:28.897 --> 00:27:31.275
and if that's something
that you want to explore.

00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:33.777
Yes. I mean,
I think the answer to that

00:27:33.860 --> 00:27:35.404
is we absolutely
want to explore it

00:27:35.487 --> 00:27:37.030
and we wanna play it up.

00:27:37.113 --> 00:27:38.782
And, you know, obviously
we've talked about women,

00:27:38.865 --> 00:27:41.117
you know, and... and this
sort of, you know, primary,

00:27:41.202 --> 00:27:43.829
um, audience of more
than half of the population.

00:27:43.912 --> 00:27:46.915
But we pivoted to using
gender language super early.

00:27:46.998 --> 00:27:49.167
You know, trying
to signal to the world

00:27:49.251 --> 00:27:52.254
that inclusivity
is exceedingly important to us.

00:27:52.338 --> 00:27:54.965
And so could you and I
make a date to talk through

00:27:55.048 --> 00:27:57.259
some of those things?
That would be informative,

00:27:57.343 --> 00:28:00.053
educational, and also
just super on brand for us.

00:28:00.136 --> 00:28:01.430
[Kate]
Yeah, I would love that.

00:28:01.513 --> 00:28:02.556
Cool. Thank you.

00:28:04.558 --> 00:28:06.977
[Andrea]
We're launching this week.

00:28:09.020 --> 00:28:12.274
My launch story is on trans
voter disenfranchisement.

00:28:12.358 --> 00:28:14.693
Why the Vice Presidency matters
this cycle in particular.

00:28:14.776 --> 00:28:16.862
Women being
disproportionately affected

00:28:16.945 --> 00:28:19.323
in terms of depression
and anxiety in the pandemic.

00:28:19.406 --> 00:28:22.409
Kick in the door, everybody.

00:28:22.493 --> 00:28:24.286
I have mostly felt like,
is this a dream?

00:28:24.370 --> 00:28:26.455
Is it real? Is it happening?
And it's happening.

00:28:26.538 --> 00:28:30.584
Mommy's new website
starts today.

00:28:30.667 --> 00:28:32.002
[David]
Good luck today, Mama.

00:28:34.296 --> 00:28:35.797
Oh, thank you so much.
I really appreciate that.

00:28:35.881 --> 00:28:37.173
Good luck today.

00:28:37.258 --> 00:28:38.675
My story is gonna be
the first one

00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:40.302
that is gonna be
up on the website.

00:28:40.386 --> 00:28:42.220
I am not nervous
about that at all.

00:28:42.304 --> 00:28:44.390
Oh, my God.
It's about, uh,

00:28:44.473 --> 00:28:46.433
the first female recession
in the United States.

00:28:46.517 --> 00:28:50.020
Um, Meghan Markle's
publicist just called

00:28:50.103 --> 00:28:52.939
and said that
she and Prince Harry

00:28:53.023 --> 00:28:55.150
are very interested
in what we're doing.

00:28:55.233 --> 00:28:57.819
Seriously, like the universe
is responding

00:28:57.903 --> 00:28:59.780
to this mission
and vision, people.

00:28:59.863 --> 00:29:01.907
Like, everything is possible.

00:29:01.990 --> 00:29:03.992
Get that chick
a button and a sticker.

00:29:04.075 --> 00:29:05.076
♪♪

00:29:07.954 --> 00:29:11.249
Abby is about to switch
19thnews.org

00:29:11.333 --> 00:29:13.335
to point to our new website.

00:29:13.419 --> 00:29:15.879
- With this finger?
- Yep.

00:29:15.962 --> 00:29:18.131
[Woman 1]
Oh, my God.

00:29:18.214 --> 00:29:19.174
[Woman 2]
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

00:29:19.257 --> 00:29:20.967
We are live in Syracuse.

00:29:21.051 --> 00:29:23.554
We are live in Chicago.

00:29:23.637 --> 00:29:25.556
It's called The 19th*.

00:29:25.639 --> 00:29:28.642
[speaking Spanish]

00:29:32.354 --> 00:29:33.897
[News anchor in English]
Turning now to a newsroom

00:29:33.980 --> 00:29:36.400
made for our times, The 19th*...

00:29:36.483 --> 00:29:38.151
[Man]
It's hard enough to get

00:29:38.234 --> 00:29:39.861
a new publication launched,

00:29:39.945 --> 00:29:42.823
but then to do it at
the beginning of a pandemic.

00:29:42.906 --> 00:29:44.491
This has just been
a really hard year

00:29:44.575 --> 00:29:46.076
and it's just really
beautiful to see everything

00:29:46.159 --> 00:29:47.369
like actually working

00:29:47.453 --> 00:29:49.287
like we've been working
our asses off.

00:29:50.622 --> 00:29:52.458
[Emily] Who does not
have a champagne?

00:29:52.541 --> 00:29:53.834
Looking good, Errin.

00:29:53.917 --> 00:29:55.461
[Woman]
Woohoo!

00:29:55.544 --> 00:29:57.421
[laughs] Hi, you guys.

00:29:57.504 --> 00:29:59.047
[Amanda]
I can see the excitement

00:29:59.130 --> 00:30:01.508
literally pouring
through your body.

00:30:01.592 --> 00:30:03.760
[cheering]

00:30:03.844 --> 00:30:05.762
[News anchor] Ramshaw
along with Amanda Zamora,

00:30:05.846 --> 00:30:07.889
who was the Texas Tribune's
Chief Audience Officer,

00:30:07.973 --> 00:30:10.225
are launching
a new non-profit newsroom.

00:30:10.308 --> 00:30:12.060
They've called it The 19th*.

00:30:12.143 --> 00:30:14.062
And it will focus
on the impact of politics

00:30:14.145 --> 00:30:15.564
and policy on women.

00:30:18.191 --> 00:30:19.485
[Andrea]
We've had so much interest

00:30:19.568 --> 00:30:21.319
in republishing already.

00:30:21.403 --> 00:30:24.030
[laughs] Did I pick up

00:30:24.114 --> 00:30:26.450
my three copies of USA Today?

00:30:26.533 --> 00:30:28.494
There you are.

00:30:28.577 --> 00:30:30.078
[Meghan]
This can be the catalyst

00:30:30.161 --> 00:30:32.373
for reset for other
news organizations.

00:30:32.456 --> 00:30:34.249
It's going to change
the game so much.

00:30:36.126 --> 00:30:37.586
- What?
- Michelle Obama's

00:30:37.669 --> 00:30:39.295
just reached out.

00:30:39.380 --> 00:30:42.007
Stacy, thank you so much
for being here with us today.

00:30:42.090 --> 00:30:43.509
Thank you so much,
Secretary Clinton,

00:30:43.592 --> 00:30:44.676
for joining us today.

00:30:44.760 --> 00:30:45.761
I'm Zoe Saldaña.

00:30:45.844 --> 00:30:47.262
My name is Demi.

00:30:47.345 --> 00:30:49.222
Hi, I'm Meryl Streep
and I'm proud

00:30:49.305 --> 00:30:51.808
to be a part
of The 19th* represents.

00:30:54.352 --> 00:30:56.397
- Emily. I'll see you...
- Mm-hmm.

00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:58.231
Are you gonna
come here tomorrow?

00:30:58.314 --> 00:31:00.442
[Emily] I don't know
what I'm gonna do.

00:31:00.526 --> 00:31:03.236
I can't think right now.

00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:04.696
Okay, bye.

00:31:05.781 --> 00:31:08.158
Um...

00:31:08.241 --> 00:31:10.118
check out
the Slack conversation

00:31:10.201 --> 00:31:12.037
between Andrea
and Abby and you and me

00:31:12.120 --> 00:31:13.246
when you have a second.

00:31:17.418 --> 00:31:19.670
Heather, what I'm showing,
uh, Amanda is not going

00:31:19.753 --> 00:31:21.422
- in the documentary. Sorry.
- Oh, okay.

00:31:21.505 --> 00:31:22.964
Are you mic'd up
or not mic'd up?

00:31:23.048 --> 00:31:24.257
- No.
- Okay.

00:31:37.270 --> 00:31:39.022
[Kate]
There had been a thought

00:31:39.105 --> 00:31:41.942
that like we should
cover LGBTQ issues,

00:31:42.025 --> 00:31:44.945
but no, like,

00:31:45.028 --> 00:31:49.115
foresight about
what it would mean to bring

00:31:49.199 --> 00:31:51.117
an actual trans person on staff.

00:31:51.201 --> 00:31:53.454
So like every,
all every conversation

00:31:53.537 --> 00:31:56.331
was like, "Hey ladies, like...

00:31:56.414 --> 00:31:59.167
I love you, you women,
like you are all my sisters."

00:31:59.250 --> 00:32:01.462
Like, every five seconds

00:32:01.545 --> 00:32:04.172
I was misgendered
as this group of people,

00:32:04.255 --> 00:32:06.967
like internally, publicly.

00:32:07.050 --> 00:32:10.804
I just felt so broken.
I was like, I can't

00:32:10.887 --> 00:32:12.764
believe that I walked
into this,

00:32:12.848 --> 00:32:15.266
like everybody was so excited

00:32:15.350 --> 00:32:16.768
and just celebrating all day

00:32:16.852 --> 00:32:18.353
and I spent the whole day

00:32:18.436 --> 00:32:22.691
in my apartment crying in bed.

00:32:24.317 --> 00:32:29.114
Internally, like, people
need to be challenged,

00:32:29.197 --> 00:32:31.533
um, to think about...

00:32:32.909 --> 00:32:33.910
[sighs]

00:32:35.328 --> 00:32:36.955
...outside of their experiences.

00:32:42.377 --> 00:32:44.755
Please stop.
Sir, I'm asking you to stop.

00:32:44.838 --> 00:32:46.297
[Man]
Please don't come close to me.

00:32:46.381 --> 00:32:47.966
Sir. I'm asking
to stop recording.

00:32:48.049 --> 00:32:49.885
[Man]
Please don't come close to me.

00:32:49.968 --> 00:32:51.553
- Please take your phone off.
- Please don't come close to me.

00:32:51.637 --> 00:32:54.097
- I'm calling the cops.
- Please call the cops.

00:32:54.180 --> 00:32:55.932
Please call the cops.

00:32:56.016 --> 00:32:57.851
I'm gonna tell them
there's an African American man

00:32:57.934 --> 00:32:59.477
- threatening my life.
- Please tell them

00:32:59.561 --> 00:33:00.896
whatever you like.

00:33:03.106 --> 00:33:08.111
I mean, I... this just, um,
this was alarming.

00:33:08.194 --> 00:33:09.905
I mean her weaponizing,

00:33:09.988 --> 00:33:12.282
um, you know, white tears
to potentially,

00:33:12.365 --> 00:33:13.950
uh, cause harm
to this Black man.

00:33:14.034 --> 00:33:15.661
I mean, luckily
nothing happened,

00:33:15.744 --> 00:33:17.245
but there is a concern
that white women

00:33:17.328 --> 00:33:18.705
are still harmful,

00:33:18.789 --> 00:33:21.166
uh, to people of color
in America.

00:33:21.249 --> 00:33:23.418
I mean, there was a part
that was off camera

00:33:23.501 --> 00:33:26.129
that he basically released
a transcript of it

00:33:26.212 --> 00:33:27.881
where he basically says,
you're not gonna like

00:33:27.964 --> 00:33:29.132
what I'm about to do.

00:33:29.215 --> 00:33:31.176
So I think... I think she thought

00:33:31.259 --> 00:33:32.803
he was gonna take
her dog away from her

00:33:32.886 --> 00:33:35.764
and she just like
started spewing racist shit.

00:33:35.847 --> 00:33:38.642
Like, that's my guess
from looking at this transcript.

00:33:38.725 --> 00:33:41.061
But even so...
I mean, it's just like

00:33:41.144 --> 00:33:43.438
that... that's what come...
comes out of your mouth

00:33:43.521 --> 00:33:45.315
- in those moments?
- Correct.

00:33:45.398 --> 00:33:48.902
It's like the depth of racism
in the American psyche,

00:33:48.985 --> 00:33:50.403
the white woman's psych...

00:33:50.486 --> 00:33:52.948
or the white anyone's psyche.

00:33:53.031 --> 00:33:54.825
[speaking]

00:33:54.908 --> 00:33:56.492
Or would a...
I mean like, honestly...

00:33:56.577 --> 00:33:58.787
Would a white man in the park

00:33:58.870 --> 00:34:00.205
have responded the same way?

00:34:00.288 --> 00:34:01.748
I think it's possible...
[chuckles]

00:34:01.832 --> 00:34:03.834
Like, a terrible thing.

00:34:03.917 --> 00:34:06.587
Um, well, I mean,
I think... okay.

00:34:06.670 --> 00:34:10.924
So, um, it... this is a dynamic

00:34:11.007 --> 00:34:12.676
that goes back to slavery.

00:34:12.759 --> 00:34:15.637
I mean, like, white women
lied on slave...

00:34:15.721 --> 00:34:17.263
enslaved people all the time.

00:34:17.347 --> 00:34:18.849
I mean, Emmett Till...

00:34:18.932 --> 00:34:20.558
Uh, I mean,
there were so many lynchings

00:34:20.642 --> 00:34:23.478
that were the result
of, um, you know,

00:34:23.561 --> 00:34:25.188
a white woman
making something up.

00:34:25.271 --> 00:34:26.940
It was a whole premise
of To Kill a Mockingbird.

00:34:27.023 --> 00:34:30.193
I mean, you know, I... you know,
it's just like it, um,

00:34:30.276 --> 00:34:34.530
it is a thing in,
uh, with a long history,

00:34:34.615 --> 00:34:36.992
uh, in our country,

00:34:37.075 --> 00:34:40.621
uh, and is its
own specific type of racism,

00:34:40.704 --> 00:34:42.623
- uh, in America.
- That's the lens.

00:34:42.706 --> 00:34:44.833
- Well, I mean...
- That's the asterisk.

00:34:44.916 --> 00:34:45.917
♪♪

00:34:49.755 --> 00:34:50.881
[News anchor]
This is on point.

00:34:50.964 --> 00:34:52.758
Errin Haines is with us.

00:34:52.841 --> 00:34:54.635
She's editor-at-large
for The 19th*.

00:34:54.718 --> 00:34:56.344
[Errin]
Amy Cooper's actions.

00:34:56.427 --> 00:34:58.304
The reason that
they were so problematic

00:34:58.388 --> 00:35:01.141
and troubling is that
her weaponizing 911

00:35:01.224 --> 00:35:03.894
in that way can lead
to just the type of moments

00:35:03.977 --> 00:35:08.564
that end up in the tragic
situation with George Floyd.

00:35:08.649 --> 00:35:10.942
One of the main
questions confronting us

00:35:11.026 --> 00:35:13.403
is, "What is the onus
on white people,

00:35:13.486 --> 00:35:16.698
uh, many of whom frankly
have only recently begun

00:35:16.782 --> 00:35:19.075
to consider questions
of white privilege?"

00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.746
Because what we've seen
is that this is who we are.

00:35:28.209 --> 00:35:29.585
I'm fucking exhausted,

00:35:29.670 --> 00:35:31.337
if I'm being honest with you.

00:35:31.421 --> 00:35:34.049
I mean,
um, it is exhausting.

00:35:34.132 --> 00:35:36.134
Uh, I feel like sometimes

00:35:36.217 --> 00:35:37.678
I've been writing
the same story

00:35:37.761 --> 00:35:39.805
for, uh, the better
part of 10 years.

00:35:41.848 --> 00:35:43.516
I'm actually surprised
I didn't see that much else

00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:45.101
that was right.

00:35:45.185 --> 00:35:47.187
[Errin speaking]

00:35:47.270 --> 00:35:48.772
I mean, centering women
does not mean

00:35:48.855 --> 00:35:50.565
celebrating them all
the time, right?

00:35:50.648 --> 00:35:53.985
Like, it means to be
honest about women, all women.

00:35:54.069 --> 00:35:55.987
[Emily]
I, as a white woman

00:35:56.071 --> 00:35:58.281
of privilege, was thinking,
okay, so like,

00:35:58.364 --> 00:36:00.909
what's the angle?
What's the gender angle here?

00:36:00.992 --> 00:36:02.994
And at the end of the day,
it's like so obvious

00:36:03.078 --> 00:36:05.747
that this is a problem for...
this is white women.

00:36:05.831 --> 00:36:07.749
Like this is...
this is what happens

00:36:07.833 --> 00:36:09.625
when white women
aren't even aware

00:36:09.710 --> 00:36:11.336
of their own privilege.

00:36:11.419 --> 00:36:14.005
Um, anyway, I just...
I'm glad we pushed it through.

00:36:14.089 --> 00:36:16.299
I'm glad we sort of...
we all saw

00:36:16.382 --> 00:36:18.009
the gender lens on this, um...

00:36:18.093 --> 00:36:20.136
Really, really worthy angle

00:36:20.220 --> 00:36:21.387
and I'm very glad
that we did it.

00:36:21.471 --> 00:36:23.681
- That you did it, Errin.
- Me too.

00:36:23.765 --> 00:36:24.808
[Errin]
You know, even the most

00:36:24.891 --> 00:36:25.976
well-meaning newsrooms

00:36:26.059 --> 00:36:27.185
can be grappling

00:36:27.268 --> 00:36:29.270
with issues of racism

00:36:29.354 --> 00:36:30.563
or inequality.

00:36:30.646 --> 00:36:31.982
You know, Emily, one of...

00:36:32.065 --> 00:36:33.483
one of the core values

00:36:33.566 --> 00:36:35.736
that she wanted
to be at the center

00:36:35.819 --> 00:36:39.823
of this newsroom
was equity and equality.

00:36:39.906 --> 00:36:41.867
And so, you know,

00:36:41.950 --> 00:36:44.786
we have to think about that
and we have to talk about that

00:36:44.870 --> 00:36:48.248
in all that we do to make sure
that we are living up

00:36:48.331 --> 00:36:52.085
to that value and that
we mean what we say

00:36:52.168 --> 00:36:54.170
when we say that
this is something

00:36:54.254 --> 00:36:55.881
that we prioritize
and that we care about.

00:36:55.964 --> 00:36:58.008
And I know that I work

00:36:58.091 --> 00:37:00.218
with people
who share that hope.

00:37:05.390 --> 00:37:07.183
I'm late for NPR.

00:37:07.267 --> 00:37:09.227
Let's just hope he doesn't bark.

00:37:09.310 --> 00:37:11.271
That is my constant struggle.

00:37:13.231 --> 00:37:14.858
[News anchor]
Chabeli Carrazana

00:37:14.941 --> 00:37:16.902
is an economy reporter
with The 19th*.

00:37:16.985 --> 00:37:19.195
You've called
the current economic situation

00:37:19.279 --> 00:37:21.572
America's
first female recession.

00:37:21.656 --> 00:37:24.159
The relief was uneven at best

00:37:24.242 --> 00:37:26.161
and many businesses
owned by women

00:37:26.244 --> 00:37:28.621
and people of color
were locked out.

00:37:28.704 --> 00:37:30.456
Those businesses did not have

00:37:30.540 --> 00:37:32.167
those existing
banking relationships

00:37:32.250 --> 00:37:34.085
to get in line quickly,
to be able to process

00:37:34.169 --> 00:37:36.421
the loans quickly
before the money disappeared.

00:37:36.504 --> 00:37:38.048
[News anchor]
Tell us what other changes,

00:37:38.131 --> 00:37:40.050
- uh, people should expect.
- [dog barks]

00:37:40.133 --> 00:37:41.634
Yeah, I think
the demographic changes...

00:37:41.717 --> 00:37:43.136
- [dog barks]
- ...were really interesting

00:37:43.219 --> 00:37:44.971
because the application
questions...

00:37:45.055 --> 00:37:46.890
- [dog barks]
- ...that asked

00:37:46.973 --> 00:37:48.599
about demographics was buried
in the very last page

00:37:48.683 --> 00:37:50.185
of the PPP application.

00:37:50.268 --> 00:37:51.769
[News anchor]
What do you think

00:37:51.853 --> 00:37:53.771
are the long-term
consequences here

00:37:53.855 --> 00:37:55.731
if these economic disparities
are not addressed?

00:37:55.816 --> 00:37:57.859
[Chabeli]
What happens when half

00:37:57.943 --> 00:38:00.528
the population
is affected so hard

00:38:00.611 --> 00:38:02.072
in the labor market?
What happens long-term

00:38:02.155 --> 00:38:03.614
to the gender pay gap

00:38:03.698 --> 00:38:05.992
to, uh, women who wanna
rejoin the workforce?

00:38:06.076 --> 00:38:08.286
- That's what we're looking at.
- ...that we have to answer.

00:38:08.369 --> 00:38:09.996
No, you're exactly right.
And I'm so grateful

00:38:10.080 --> 00:38:11.622
that you came here
to talk about this.

00:38:15.335 --> 00:38:17.170
Are you fucking kidding me?

00:38:17.253 --> 00:38:18.296
Come on.

00:38:19.965 --> 00:38:22.008
You were fine all day.

00:38:22.092 --> 00:38:23.969
You're gonna be on NPR.

00:38:25.470 --> 00:38:26.721
Oh, my God.

00:38:35.688 --> 00:38:37.107
There they are.

00:38:37.190 --> 00:38:38.733
Loading up and I'm here
just driving around

00:38:38.816 --> 00:38:40.401
like a maniac.

00:38:40.485 --> 00:38:41.903
Hello.

00:38:41.987 --> 00:38:43.488
[Kelly]
Oh, I don't have my mask on.

00:38:43.571 --> 00:38:45.448
- No, that's all right.
- Nice to meet, meet you.

00:38:45.531 --> 00:38:47.325
We do have to take
diapers today

00:38:47.408 --> 00:38:49.285
cause they're running lows
on fives and sixes.

00:38:49.369 --> 00:38:51.204
Sixes you said they were okay.
So I didn't pack any sixes.

00:38:51.287 --> 00:38:52.663
[Kelly P]
Okay. Gotcha.

00:38:52.747 --> 00:38:53.664
[Chabeli]
This pandemic has hit

00:38:53.748 --> 00:38:54.875
a hard reset.

00:38:54.958 --> 00:38:56.501
Equity has become the story.

00:38:56.584 --> 00:38:57.585
So we're looking
at these things

00:38:57.668 --> 00:38:59.212
that were here all along

00:38:59.295 --> 00:39:01.297
with a completely
different eye.

00:39:02.590 --> 00:39:04.509
Diaper need is an indicator

00:39:04.592 --> 00:39:08.096
of so many of these
other issues.

00:39:08.179 --> 00:39:10.098
We settled on this diaper bank
in Missouri

00:39:10.181 --> 00:39:12.475
just pulling it together
to help reach

00:39:12.558 --> 00:39:14.394
the most vulnerable people
in the country.

00:39:15.395 --> 00:39:16.437
[Kelly]
And so, even though

00:39:16.521 --> 00:39:17.522
it's a very well-known

00:39:17.605 --> 00:39:19.024
touristy area...

00:39:19.107 --> 00:39:20.316
[Chabeli]
Mm-hmm.

00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:22.152
...the families
in need...

00:39:22.235 --> 00:39:23.278
[Chabeli]
Mm-hmm.

00:39:23.361 --> 00:39:25.238
...it's a significant need.

00:39:27.490 --> 00:39:29.284
[Chabeli]
The last big story

00:39:29.367 --> 00:39:30.493
that I worked on
before I came to The 19th*

00:39:30.576 --> 00:39:31.744
was a story called Labor Land

00:39:31.827 --> 00:39:34.956
that was about Disney workers.

00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:37.708
There was some back and forth
about whether people

00:39:37.792 --> 00:39:40.170
wanted to read
about poor people

00:39:40.253 --> 00:39:42.672
and about whether
that was even our readership

00:39:42.755 --> 00:39:44.757
and whether we should focus more
on the middle class

00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:46.759
or try to bring
the middle class in

00:39:46.842 --> 00:39:49.887
and yeah, sure.

00:39:49.971 --> 00:39:52.015
But that wasn't really
what I wanted to write about.

00:39:52.098 --> 00:39:54.642
This problem does not stop
being relevant

00:39:54.725 --> 00:39:56.394
because it cannot be
relevant to someone

00:39:56.477 --> 00:39:58.479
in the middle class
or the upper class.

00:39:58.563 --> 00:40:00.398
And I think part of the reason
it continues to exist

00:40:00.481 --> 00:40:02.192
is because the middle class
or the upper class

00:40:02.275 --> 00:40:03.859
don't find it
relevant to them.

00:40:03.944 --> 00:40:05.946
♪♪

00:40:11.993 --> 00:40:13.578
I know Kelly was asking
about the pandemic. You all, um,

00:40:13.661 --> 00:40:15.455
were working or, or not working?
Is your husband...

00:40:15.538 --> 00:40:16.622
[Mother]
Yeah, we were working

00:40:16.706 --> 00:40:18.124
at the flea market

00:40:18.208 --> 00:40:19.584
and the flea market
just shut down.

00:40:19.667 --> 00:40:21.044
I've told my husband
several times,

00:40:21.127 --> 00:40:22.545
I wish they would put like
on food stamps,

00:40:22.628 --> 00:40:23.671
like a diaper allowance.

00:40:23.754 --> 00:40:24.714
Yeah, yeah.

00:40:24.797 --> 00:40:25.966
Or something, you know,

00:40:26.049 --> 00:40:27.300
on there just for
even one pack.

00:40:29.885 --> 00:40:32.138
When your income
is just so low...

00:40:32.222 --> 00:40:34.015
Mm-hmm.

00:40:34.099 --> 00:40:35.516
...that you're struggling just
to provide for your children...

00:40:35.600 --> 00:40:37.102
Mm-hmm.

00:40:37.185 --> 00:40:39.854
...it's really hard
to get that extra up

00:40:39.937 --> 00:40:42.232
to buy the amount of diapers
and wipes you need.

00:40:42.315 --> 00:40:44.317
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.

00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:46.152
You know, the... the issue with
poverty reporting sometimes

00:40:46.236 --> 00:40:48.363
is people just want to be like,

00:40:48.446 --> 00:40:50.156
you know, look at how hard
these people's lives are,

00:40:50.240 --> 00:40:51.866
but also like,

00:40:51.949 --> 00:40:54.910
look how hard they're working
to try to get...

00:40:54.995 --> 00:40:56.537
you know, to move ahead
and it's how...

00:40:56.621 --> 00:40:58.248
look how hard it is.

00:40:58.331 --> 00:41:00.333
♪♪

00:41:05.213 --> 00:41:07.382
[Mother] Like,
am I even fit to be a mom?

00:41:07.465 --> 00:41:08.508
And then you have to think
about it like,

00:41:08.591 --> 00:41:09.759
yeah, I love these kids.

00:41:09.842 --> 00:41:11.469
I can give them love

00:41:11.552 --> 00:41:12.887
just because I can't put
diapers on them...

00:41:12.970 --> 00:41:14.389
- Yeah.
- [Mother] ...doesn't mean

00:41:14.472 --> 00:41:15.390
I'm not worthy
of being their mother.

00:41:15.473 --> 00:41:16.432
Yeah.

00:41:16.516 --> 00:41:18.518
♪♪

00:41:30.655 --> 00:41:32.240
I really, um, thought

00:41:32.323 --> 00:41:33.741
that caregiving
conversation was very good

00:41:33.824 --> 00:41:35.410
and I really liked actually

00:41:35.493 --> 00:41:37.328
having somebody in there
who could just listen

00:41:37.412 --> 00:41:39.164
to everything that we said
and then sort of like

00:41:39.247 --> 00:41:40.706
reflect on what
they were hearing.

00:41:40.790 --> 00:41:42.458
- Like a therapist.
- Like a therapist. Yeah.

00:41:42.542 --> 00:41:43.709
It was actually
a really nice to have

00:41:43.793 --> 00:41:45.086
sort of
an impartial observer...

00:41:45.170 --> 00:41:47.130
[laughs]

00:41:47.213 --> 00:41:48.339
...office therapist.

00:41:48.423 --> 00:41:50.091
Maybe I could be
a therapist...

00:41:50.175 --> 00:41:51.426
- I mean, you could.
- ...when this doesn't work out.

00:41:51.509 --> 00:41:52.885
[laughs]

00:41:52.968 --> 00:41:54.137
What you mean "when this
doesn't work out"?

00:41:54.220 --> 00:41:55.513
Just kidding.
Just kidding.

00:41:55.596 --> 00:41:57.265
[laughs]

00:41:57.348 --> 00:42:01.311
You're... you're diving
right into my abandonment fears.

00:42:01.394 --> 00:42:02.728
Um, okay.

00:42:02.812 --> 00:42:04.605
What are you gonna
wear on Thursday?

00:42:04.689 --> 00:42:06.274
Solid colors.

00:42:06.357 --> 00:42:09.319
Before we go to fun stuff,
I just have to tell you.

00:42:12.530 --> 00:42:14.157
Are you gonna tell me
on camera or off camera?

00:42:14.240 --> 00:42:15.325
I'm just telling you,
I don't care.

00:42:15.408 --> 00:42:16.909
Okay. Okay. Good.

00:42:16.992 --> 00:42:18.286
Well, do you not want me
to tell you on camera?

00:42:18.369 --> 00:42:19.287
No, I don't what
you're gonna say. So...

00:42:19.370 --> 00:42:20.496
I'm just stressed out.

00:42:20.580 --> 00:42:23.291
Like I feel
like there's...

00:42:23.374 --> 00:42:25.543
The team is just eager for us

00:42:25.626 --> 00:42:27.295
to be hiring
for new beats

00:42:27.378 --> 00:42:29.505
and for us to have more people
for them to work with

00:42:29.589 --> 00:42:31.424
and like resourcing
and staffing up.

00:42:31.507 --> 00:42:34.344
But like, we also have
to be doing it

00:42:34.427 --> 00:42:36.429
at a pace that is sane.

00:42:36.512 --> 00:42:37.888
We also need
to be doing it

00:42:37.972 --> 00:42:40.057
in an inclusive
and equitable way.

00:42:40.141 --> 00:42:42.602
These things are just
in a constant tension.

00:42:42.685 --> 00:42:43.978
[Emily]
But I think before we do that,

00:42:44.061 --> 00:42:45.730
we need to make sure
we're providing

00:42:45.813 --> 00:42:47.982
the basic supports that
our existing team needs

00:42:48.065 --> 00:42:49.734
to not feel like
they're falling apart.

00:42:49.817 --> 00:42:51.819
[Amanda]
Concur, we're too tiny.

00:42:51.902 --> 00:42:53.238
And if the lesson...

00:42:53.321 --> 00:42:54.905
if this year
has taught us anything,

00:42:54.989 --> 00:42:58.534
it's just like we're...
we're doing too much.

00:42:58.618 --> 00:43:00.328
It's like, how are we
gonna have an impact?

00:43:00.411 --> 00:43:01.829
We're such a tiny team.

00:43:04.124 --> 00:43:06.126
The realization
that of course

00:43:06.209 --> 00:43:08.628
not only women
are adversely affected

00:43:08.711 --> 00:43:10.296
by their gender identity.

00:43:10.380 --> 00:43:13.299
That was like my first, ugh...

00:43:13.383 --> 00:43:16.427
like, I have totally fucked up.

00:43:16.511 --> 00:43:18.388
We weren't intentional
about incorporating

00:43:18.471 --> 00:43:21.474
this other aspect of gender

00:43:21.557 --> 00:43:24.101
when we hired Kate.

00:43:24.185 --> 00:43:25.895
Learning everything
that I have learned to date,

00:43:25.978 --> 00:43:27.647
if I had to do that over again,

00:43:27.730 --> 00:43:29.857
I may have waited
on that hire and said,

00:43:29.940 --> 00:43:32.985
"Would this person
feel welcome, included?

00:43:33.068 --> 00:43:34.612
Are we prepared
to support them?"

00:43:34.695 --> 00:43:37.823
Just so many
fundamental questions

00:43:37.907 --> 00:43:40.618
that we should have raised
that we didn't.

00:43:40.701 --> 00:43:43.579
And it was just another thing

00:43:43.663 --> 00:43:45.165
that happened
in this like whirlwind

00:43:45.248 --> 00:43:47.917
of getting The 19th*
off the ground.

00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.002
♪♪

00:43:57.051 --> 00:43:58.052
[Kate]
I have to work.

00:43:59.053 --> 00:44:00.638
I... I have to work.

00:44:02.598 --> 00:44:05.185
Do you wanna write
my article for me?

00:44:05.268 --> 00:44:07.978
You know, fetch doesn't pay
the bills, right?

00:44:11.357 --> 00:44:15.236
Dude, I can't work like this
and neither can you.

00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:21.992
I haven't worked any place
that's particularly great

00:44:22.076 --> 00:44:23.744
for trans people.

00:44:23.828 --> 00:44:26.331
Like, I sought out advice
from other people

00:44:26.414 --> 00:44:27.415
and I was like,
should I stay here?

00:44:27.498 --> 00:44:28.749
Should I go?

00:44:28.833 --> 00:44:30.084
And the person was like
kind of like,

00:44:30.167 --> 00:44:32.044
"It's bad everywhere."

00:44:32.127 --> 00:44:34.672
And I think at The 19th*,
we've told ourselves a lot

00:44:34.755 --> 00:44:38.426
that like, we're the best
in the industry.

00:44:39.385 --> 00:44:42.680
But what does that mean
when the industry is so bad,

00:44:42.763 --> 00:44:44.181
it's so broken?

00:44:44.265 --> 00:44:47.727
So it's a hard moment but also,

00:44:47.810 --> 00:44:50.855
I haven't seen us sit in it.

00:44:50.938 --> 00:44:53.899
We're willing to move and, um...

00:44:55.276 --> 00:44:58.654
or at least leadership
feels willing to move.

00:44:58.738 --> 00:45:00.823
So...

00:45:00.906 --> 00:45:02.783
it's worth,

00:45:02.867 --> 00:45:05.411
and I don't know
what's better. [chuckles]

00:45:05.495 --> 00:45:07.497
I don't know what is better.

00:45:07.580 --> 00:45:09.915
And I think that
we've set an example

00:45:09.999 --> 00:45:12.001
of people who are willing
to admit

00:45:12.084 --> 00:45:14.587
that it's in process.

00:45:14.670 --> 00:45:16.046
And to be honest about it.

00:45:16.130 --> 00:45:18.549
♪♪

00:45:18.633 --> 00:45:20.301
[Abby J]
Kate is working on a story

00:45:20.385 --> 00:45:22.470
about a couple of groups

00:45:22.553 --> 00:45:24.555
that essentially
have a request form,

00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:26.391
like an internet request form,

00:45:26.474 --> 00:45:29.519
for anti-LGBTQ
model legislation.

00:45:29.602 --> 00:45:31.228
[News anchor]
Lawmakers in 28 states

00:45:31.312 --> 00:45:33.398
are considering 93 bills

00:45:33.481 --> 00:45:35.733
targeting the rights
of transgender Americans.

00:45:35.816 --> 00:45:36.942
[Kate]
All these states

00:45:37.026 --> 00:45:38.694
didn't wake up in the same day

00:45:38.778 --> 00:45:41.196
and decide to essentially
pass these bills.

00:45:41.281 --> 00:45:43.157
You know, we have
this issue

00:45:43.240 --> 00:45:45.743
of major
anti-LGBTQ organizations

00:45:45.826 --> 00:45:47.537
have taken this up, right?

00:45:47.620 --> 00:45:49.872
And um, have formed
coalitions

00:45:49.955 --> 00:45:53.083
and have provided bills
to these state lawmakers.

00:45:53.167 --> 00:45:55.670
♪♪

00:45:55.753 --> 00:45:56.921
[Abby J]
How are you?

00:45:57.880 --> 00:45:59.214
I just, uh, assume
that the world's

00:45:59.299 --> 00:46:00.633
falling apart now
all the time.

00:46:00.716 --> 00:46:02.718
And so I'm just
sort of like,

00:46:02.802 --> 00:46:04.929
okay, let's just
do this.

00:46:05.012 --> 00:46:06.597
- What next?
- I'm just gonna do this.

00:46:06.681 --> 00:46:08.808
I had my first interview
with Seve,

00:46:08.891 --> 00:46:10.726
the person
who does policy work

00:46:10.810 --> 00:46:13.771
for Senator Scott Wiener
in California

00:46:13.854 --> 00:46:15.981
and is like
one of the only trans

00:46:16.065 --> 00:46:20.445
non-binary people
working in the Capitol here.

00:46:20.528 --> 00:46:23.781
You keep just pitching
these wonderful ideas

00:46:23.864 --> 00:46:27.201
and then like,
can we clone you or something?

00:46:27.284 --> 00:46:29.329
Yeah. You just have
to hire more queer people.

00:46:29.412 --> 00:46:30.913
[laughs]

00:46:30.996 --> 00:46:32.873
We're working on it.
We're working on it.

00:46:39.088 --> 00:46:40.047
[Errin]
Oof.

00:46:40.130 --> 00:46:42.132
Okay, so it looks like

00:46:42.216 --> 00:46:44.385
we might get news on, uh,

00:46:44.469 --> 00:46:47.096
who Joe Biden is gonna pick
for his VP candidate.

00:46:47.179 --> 00:46:50.099
If I'm not gonna be
the only one to know,

00:46:50.182 --> 00:46:52.685
I don't wanna be
the last to know, you know.

00:46:52.768 --> 00:46:55.605
Can you confirm that...
[indistinct]

00:46:55.688 --> 00:46:57.022
[News anchor]
All eyes on Joe Biden

00:46:57.106 --> 00:46:58.691
as speculation swirls

00:46:58.774 --> 00:47:00.443
around who
the former vice president

00:47:00.526 --> 00:47:02.319
will tap
to be his running mate.

00:47:10.995 --> 00:47:12.622
Uh, so I'm checking in
with everybody

00:47:12.705 --> 00:47:14.206
that I can think of
to check in with.

00:47:14.289 --> 00:47:16.333
Um, I don't know.

00:47:16.417 --> 00:47:17.960
Have you talked
to Senator Harris today?

00:47:18.043 --> 00:47:20.004
[News anchor]
He has blown past

00:47:20.087 --> 00:47:21.506
his own deadlines and still
hasn't picked a running mate.

00:47:21.589 --> 00:47:23.048
If he does choose
a Black woman,

00:47:23.132 --> 00:47:24.550
she'll be making history.

00:47:25.342 --> 00:47:26.844
[Kamala]
Errin, where are you?

00:47:26.927 --> 00:47:28.804
- [Man] Good morning, Senator.
- Right here.

00:47:28.888 --> 00:47:30.515
Hi.

00:47:30.598 --> 00:47:31.891
Do you know this is
my first interview?

00:47:31.974 --> 00:47:34.101
Uh, do... do I?

00:47:34.184 --> 00:47:37.271
I'm very aware that this is
your first interview.

00:47:37.354 --> 00:47:39.356
I am thrilled that
this is your first interview.

00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:40.858
Me too.

00:47:40.941 --> 00:47:41.859
[Errin]
I'm so happy that you are

00:47:41.942 --> 00:47:43.152
doing this with us.

00:47:43.235 --> 00:47:44.278
[Kamala]
I am so happy

00:47:44.361 --> 00:47:45.571
to be with you, Errin,

00:47:45.655 --> 00:47:47.072
and on purpose.

00:47:47.156 --> 00:47:51.452
My first interview
as a... a... a teammate

00:47:51.536 --> 00:47:53.538
and a running mate
with Joe Biden

00:47:53.621 --> 00:47:54.789
is with The 19th*.

00:47:54.872 --> 00:47:56.457
So thank you.

00:48:00.002 --> 00:48:02.296
[computer chimes]

00:48:02.379 --> 00:48:03.839
[Chabeli]
Hello.

00:48:03.923 --> 00:48:05.132
Hi, Ginger.

00:48:06.717 --> 00:48:08.928
Ginger,
you hear Chabeli?

00:48:09.011 --> 00:48:10.721
[Shefali]
I don't actually like popcorn.

00:48:13.891 --> 00:48:15.810
It doesn't make me feel full.

00:48:15.893 --> 00:48:17.269
Just gets in my teeth.

00:48:17.352 --> 00:48:18.395
[Kate]
It's not supposed to make you

00:48:18.479 --> 00:48:19.939
feel full,
it's tasty.

00:48:20.022 --> 00:48:22.357
[Chabeli] You just gotta get
the right one.

00:48:22.442 --> 00:48:24.068
[Kate]
Can anyone hear C-SPAN?

00:48:24.151 --> 00:48:25.695
No.

00:48:25.778 --> 00:48:27.697
No. It was quiet
but I think it's starting.

00:48:28.197 --> 00:48:29.490
[Emily]
He's getting ready.

00:48:32.577 --> 00:48:34.286
I'm Chris Wallace
of Fox News

00:48:34.369 --> 00:48:35.830
and I welcome you
to the first

00:48:35.913 --> 00:48:38.583
of the 2020
presidential debates.

00:48:38.666 --> 00:48:41.168
Our first subject
is the Supreme Court.

00:48:41.251 --> 00:48:43.337
[Joe Biden]
The President also is opposed

00:48:43.420 --> 00:48:46.298
to Roe v. Wade.
That's on the ballot as well.

00:48:46.381 --> 00:48:47.800
- And so the election is all...
- [Trump] You don't know

00:48:47.883 --> 00:48:48.801
it's in the ballot.

00:48:48.884 --> 00:48:50.595
Why is it in the ballot?

00:48:50.678 --> 00:48:51.596
- Because, because you said...
- Why is it in the ballot?

00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:53.097
It's not in the ballot.

00:48:53.180 --> 00:48:54.765
There's nothing happening
there.

00:48:54.849 --> 00:48:56.391
[Joe Biden]
Donald, would you just be quiet

00:48:56.476 --> 00:48:57.477
- for a minute?
- [Trump] And you don't know

00:48:57.560 --> 00:48:59.562
her view on Roe v. Wade,

00:48:59.645 --> 00:49:01.188
- you don't know her view.
- [Joe Biden] I don't know...

00:49:01.271 --> 00:49:02.189
[Chris Wallace]
Well, all right, let's...

00:49:02.272 --> 00:49:03.190
all right, let's talk.

00:49:03.273 --> 00:49:04.441
I would...

00:49:04.692 --> 00:49:06.026
We got a lot to unpack here,
gentlemen.

00:49:06.110 --> 00:49:07.402
We got a lot of time.
So... [laughs]

00:49:07.487 --> 00:49:09.071
[Trump]
Individual mandate

00:49:09.154 --> 00:49:10.072
was the most unpopular
aspect of Obamacare.

00:49:10.155 --> 00:49:11.866
I got rid of it.

00:49:11.949 --> 00:49:13.325
And we will protect people
with pre-existing...

00:49:13.408 --> 00:49:14.785
[Chris Wallace]
Mister President,

00:49:14.869 --> 00:49:16.496
I'm the moderator
of this debate.

00:49:16.579 --> 00:49:18.080
[Trump] Why won't you
answer that question...

00:49:18.163 --> 00:49:19.081
[Joe Biden]
Because the question is...

00:49:19.164 --> 00:49:20.500
the question is...

00:49:20.583 --> 00:49:21.667
the question...
would you shut up, man?

00:49:21.751 --> 00:49:23.252
Listen, who is
on your list?

00:49:23.335 --> 00:49:26.631
[laughter]

00:49:27.507 --> 00:49:29.008
[Trump]
Packed the court.

00:49:29.091 --> 00:49:30.175
[Chris Wallace]
We have end... no, no.

00:49:30.259 --> 00:49:31.844
We have ended this segment.

00:49:31.927 --> 00:49:34.346
That was really a productive
segment, wasn't it?

00:49:34.429 --> 00:49:36.223
[Trump]
My family lost a fortune...

00:49:36.306 --> 00:49:38.392
[Joe Biden]
By the way, maybe you could

00:49:38.475 --> 00:49:40.352
- inject some bleach in your...
- You know what, wait,

00:49:40.435 --> 00:49:42.647
- stop, you're gonna have to...
- [indistinct banter continues]

00:49:42.730 --> 00:49:44.398
I think about how women
would be painted

00:49:44.481 --> 00:49:47.109
into a corner if they were
behaving in the same way.

00:49:55.576 --> 00:49:57.828
Um, uh...

00:49:59.496 --> 00:50:01.498
I just can't help
but think that...

00:50:01.582 --> 00:50:05.502
folks are gonna walk away
from this terrified.

00:50:05.586 --> 00:50:07.087
[Chabeli]
And there was no serious

00:50:07.171 --> 00:50:09.089
discussion of policy
on the two topics

00:50:09.173 --> 00:50:10.716
that, you know, affect,
you know,

00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:12.301
women and gender
minorities the most,

00:50:12.384 --> 00:50:14.554
which is healthcare
and the economy

00:50:14.637 --> 00:50:17.222
and stuff that is hitting people
the hardest right now.

00:50:17.306 --> 00:50:18.766
I have no sense
of what either of them

00:50:18.849 --> 00:50:20.810
would do based on what
I just heard.

00:50:20.893 --> 00:50:22.394
Well, actually that's not true.

00:50:22.477 --> 00:50:25.022
Um, white supremacy
would reign and, um,

00:50:25.105 --> 00:50:27.858
the election, um,
is gonna be a mess.

00:50:27.942 --> 00:50:29.359
I know that.

00:50:29.443 --> 00:50:30.736
What would this debate
have looked like

00:50:30.820 --> 00:50:32.780
if you'd had
three women on stage?

00:50:32.863 --> 00:50:34.323
- [laughs]
- [Errin] No, no, no.

00:50:34.406 --> 00:50:35.365
Or even...
even one person on stage

00:50:35.449 --> 00:50:36.992
who was not a white man.

00:50:37.076 --> 00:50:38.911
- [Emily] Yeah.
- [Errin] Even one person.

00:50:38.994 --> 00:50:40.162
You know, we're in the midst
of these dual pandemics

00:50:40.245 --> 00:50:42.289
and, um,

00:50:42.372 --> 00:50:46.293
you wouldn't have known it
in this 90-minute food fight.

00:50:46.376 --> 00:50:47.628
What was
on the menu tonight

00:50:47.712 --> 00:50:49.213
was toxic masculinity,
basically.

00:50:49.296 --> 00:50:50.715
[Errin]
Yes.

00:50:50.798 --> 00:50:51.882
That was... that was
the entire agenda

00:50:51.966 --> 00:50:53.300
regardless of the topics.

00:50:53.383 --> 00:50:54.677
That was the agenda.

00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:56.762
♪♪

00:51:12.111 --> 00:51:13.904
[Woman]
You have city commissioners

00:51:13.988 --> 00:51:16.073
to thank for standing
in this line

00:51:16.156 --> 00:51:17.532
for over two hours,

00:51:17.617 --> 00:51:19.451
however long
it's going to take you,

00:51:19.534 --> 00:51:21.871
because they only have
three people

00:51:21.954 --> 00:51:24.999
on the inside
servicing us.

00:51:26.125 --> 00:51:27.292
There's some people
who feel like

00:51:27.376 --> 00:51:28.919
journalists
shouldn't vote.

00:51:29.003 --> 00:51:30.545
I mean, I'm a Black person
before I'm a journalist,

00:51:30.630 --> 00:51:33.007
so like that's not
really an option for me.

00:51:37.302 --> 00:51:40.264
Um, basically, it just took
four hours

00:51:40.347 --> 00:51:42.599
to vote here in Philly.

00:51:44.059 --> 00:51:46.145
People do all these stories

00:51:46.228 --> 00:51:48.522
talking about how it's like
people are in line

00:51:48.605 --> 00:51:50.607
'cause it's just worth it
for them to cast their ballot.

00:51:50.691 --> 00:51:52.442
Well, of course it's worth it.
I mean, they're citizens.

00:51:52.526 --> 00:51:54.111
This is their fucking right
to democracy.

00:51:54.194 --> 00:51:56.363
But, like, the idea that

00:51:56.446 --> 00:51:58.073
this is not also
voter suppression.

00:51:58.157 --> 00:52:01.118
I mean, that's exactly
what this is.

00:52:01.201 --> 00:52:02.536
I mean, I literally

00:52:02.619 --> 00:52:07.082
was reading a story today
about, um...

00:52:07.166 --> 00:52:09.459
this female astronaut
who voted

00:52:09.543 --> 00:52:11.128
and it's like,

00:52:11.211 --> 00:52:13.005
it's easier for this
white woman to vote in space

00:52:13.088 --> 00:52:16.050
than it is for a Black woman
to vote in Philadelphia today.

00:52:16.133 --> 00:52:17.885
Like, what the fuck?

00:52:21.346 --> 00:52:22.389
Oh, gosh.

00:52:29.980 --> 00:52:31.857
[phone ringing]

00:52:31.941 --> 00:52:33.608
[Errin] What'd you think
about the story that I wrote?

00:52:33.693 --> 00:52:35.402
Did you...
did you think it was good?

00:52:35.485 --> 00:52:39.114
[Errin's mom speaking
over phone]

00:52:39.198 --> 00:52:41.533
No, I requested it,
but it never came.

00:52:41.616 --> 00:52:42.617
[Errin's mom speaking
over phone]

00:52:42.702 --> 00:52:43.869
[Errin]
No.

00:52:43.953 --> 00:52:46.080
My mom does not miss elections

00:52:46.163 --> 00:52:47.664
and definitely imparted to us

00:52:47.748 --> 00:52:49.666
that that was important.

00:52:49.750 --> 00:52:51.501
She is...

00:52:52.294 --> 00:52:53.838
yeah, probably, I mean like
the most important person

00:52:53.921 --> 00:52:55.630
in my life,

00:52:55.715 --> 00:52:58.258
you know, she raised me
to be proud of being Black,

00:52:58.342 --> 00:53:00.552
to be proud of being a woman.

00:53:00.635 --> 00:53:02.429
Uh, but also to be
very aware

00:53:02.512 --> 00:53:05.224
of what those things meant
in this country.

00:53:05.307 --> 00:53:07.309
Too many people can't be
in line for four hours.

00:53:07.392 --> 00:53:09.144
- You know, it's not right.
- [Errin's mom] I know.

00:53:09.228 --> 00:53:10.520
For anybody to have to go
through this shit.

00:53:10.604 --> 00:53:11.521
[Errin]
That's... and that's what

00:53:11.605 --> 00:53:13.065
it's about, right?

00:53:13.148 --> 00:53:14.734
Like it's not...
I mean, I was annoyed

00:53:14.817 --> 00:53:16.151
but I was more annoyed
for other people.

00:53:16.235 --> 00:53:18.237
But, um... oh, I'll, um...
what time is it?

00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:20.405
I am on TV at 5:00.

00:53:20.489 --> 00:53:21.698
[Errin's mom]
Okay, I'll be seeing you.

00:53:21.782 --> 00:53:23.575
- I'll be watching you.
- Okay.

00:53:23.658 --> 00:53:25.077
[Errin's mom]
Okay.

00:53:25.160 --> 00:53:26.328
- Okay. Love you.
- Love you. Take care.

00:53:26.411 --> 00:53:28.122
- Be safe.
- Thanks, Mom.

00:53:28.998 --> 00:53:31.625
[Errin's mom speaking
over phone]

00:53:31.708 --> 00:53:32.752
Oh, my gosh.

00:53:32.835 --> 00:53:34.294
Ginger's Christmas. Sure.

00:53:34.378 --> 00:53:35.545
[Errin's mom]
Talk to you later then.

00:53:35.629 --> 00:53:36.797
- All right.
- All right. Bye.

00:53:38.132 --> 00:53:39.842
In this climate,

00:53:39.925 --> 00:53:41.385
two things are present.

00:53:41.468 --> 00:53:43.846
Tremendous voter
excitement, but also, uh,

00:53:43.929 --> 00:53:46.223
the threat of voter suppression
that is looming

00:53:46.306 --> 00:53:47.557
over this election

00:53:47.641 --> 00:53:49.351
and that frankly
I experienced firsthand.

00:53:49.434 --> 00:53:51.395
The threat of voter suppression
is very real.

00:53:51.478 --> 00:53:53.105
It's very present.

00:53:53.188 --> 00:53:54.731
And this is what it looks like
in the 21st century.

00:53:54.815 --> 00:53:57.276
Thank you. See you next time.

00:53:57.359 --> 00:53:59.361
♪♪

00:54:12.958 --> 00:54:15.836
[indistinct chatter]

00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:17.963
The democratic party
is a threat to the country

00:54:18.047 --> 00:54:20.465
because they want
no voter ID.

00:54:20.549 --> 00:54:22.885
They want
no school choice.

00:54:33.603 --> 00:54:35.105
[Amanda]
I mean, this is something

00:54:35.189 --> 00:54:36.857
that we're doing
that you don't find

00:54:36.941 --> 00:54:38.818
on any other news site
in the country right now

00:54:38.901 --> 00:54:40.485
is really focusing on,

00:54:40.569 --> 00:54:42.947
uh, what's at stake,
um, for women voters,

00:54:43.030 --> 00:54:45.657
for LGBTQ+ voters,

00:54:45.740 --> 00:54:47.367
um, for marginalized
communities.

00:54:47.451 --> 00:54:49.536
And it's just special
like that.

00:54:49.619 --> 00:54:52.331
This is, you know,
something that exists now

00:54:52.414 --> 00:54:54.166
that didn't
in the last election cycle

00:54:54.249 --> 00:54:57.127
and I'm really proud
of our team.

00:54:57.211 --> 00:54:58.963
[Emily speaking indistinctly]

00:54:59.046 --> 00:55:00.840
Have you missed me?

00:55:02.049 --> 00:55:03.968
- How are ya?
- I'm good.

00:55:04.051 --> 00:55:06.011
Errin's on, uh,
the news hour all night.

00:55:06.095 --> 00:55:07.429
Okay.
Yeah.

00:55:07.512 --> 00:55:09.181
Maybe that's what
we'll watch then.

00:55:09.264 --> 00:55:10.599
You know, we're gonna have
to exercise some patience.

00:55:10.682 --> 00:55:11.892
You know, millions
of mail-in ballots

00:55:11.976 --> 00:55:13.853
are being counted
as we speak

00:55:13.936 --> 00:55:16.188
and we may not have
election results tonight,

00:55:16.271 --> 00:55:18.315
but that does not mean
that this election

00:55:18.398 --> 00:55:20.442
is illegitimate
or fraudulent in any way.

00:55:20.525 --> 00:55:22.694
It just means that it's gonna
take a little bit of time.

00:55:22.777 --> 00:55:24.071
[Errin's mom]
Hey.

00:55:24.154 --> 00:55:25.697
Hey. Are you already
in the bed?

00:55:25.780 --> 00:55:28.242
[Errin's mom speaking
over phone]

00:55:28.325 --> 00:55:30.577
You're not even
watching the news.

00:55:30.660 --> 00:55:32.162
[Errin's mom speaking
over phone]

00:55:36.041 --> 00:55:37.042
Errin Haines,

00:55:37.126 --> 00:55:38.710
you've been looking at, uh,

00:55:38.793 --> 00:55:41.171
women and how women
are looking at this election

00:55:41.255 --> 00:55:42.882
and what
are you seeing?

00:55:42.965 --> 00:55:44.758
Well, Judy, what we're seeing
is that the pandemic

00:55:44.841 --> 00:55:47.094
is absolutely political
for women.

00:55:47.177 --> 00:55:48.095
[Judy]
Errin Haines,

00:55:48.178 --> 00:55:49.513
thank you very much.

00:55:49.596 --> 00:55:51.348
And we continue
to check-in with...

00:55:51.431 --> 00:55:52.682
[Emily]
I don't know, I think about

00:55:52.766 --> 00:55:54.309
the last election night

00:55:54.393 --> 00:55:57.146
having a baby girl
sleeping in the next room.

00:55:57.229 --> 00:55:59.148
I remember I was like
in the fetal position,

00:55:59.231 --> 00:56:00.900
just like totally blindsided.

00:56:00.983 --> 00:56:02.567
[Amanda]
Yeah.

00:56:02.651 --> 00:56:04.319
If you didn't have Sophie
on that election night,

00:56:04.403 --> 00:56:05.404
would we be here?

00:56:07.739 --> 00:56:08.782
[Emily]
I don't know. Probably not.

00:56:08.865 --> 00:56:10.325
I don't think so either.

00:56:10.409 --> 00:56:11.451
[Emily]
I mean, because it sort of

00:56:11.535 --> 00:56:12.953
pushed me over the edge

00:56:13.037 --> 00:56:15.247
to someone
who is responsible

00:56:15.330 --> 00:56:17.082
for another woman's life.

00:56:17.166 --> 00:56:18.625
[laughs]

00:56:18.708 --> 00:56:20.294
Yeah.

00:56:20.377 --> 00:56:22.337
[Judy] It is now 9:00 PM
in the East...

00:56:22.421 --> 00:56:24.173
[Amanda]
Judy, don't talk to me

00:56:24.256 --> 00:56:26.300
until you got
Errin Haines back.

00:56:28.218 --> 00:56:29.761
[Chabeli]
Do you feel like people

00:56:29.844 --> 00:56:31.221
in your community,
Latinas in particular,

00:56:31.305 --> 00:56:32.889
are going out to vote,

00:56:32.973 --> 00:56:34.266
are feeling energized
to participate this year?

00:56:34.349 --> 00:56:35.350
Definitely.

00:56:35.434 --> 00:56:36.601
My parents were like,

00:56:36.685 --> 00:56:37.769
"You better go out
and vote."

00:56:37.852 --> 00:56:38.770
And is that your sister?

00:56:38.853 --> 00:56:40.480
Yeah. Yes.

00:56:40.564 --> 00:56:41.606
- Hey, did you vote as well?
- [Woman] Yeah.

00:56:41.690 --> 00:56:43.233
[Woman speaking]

00:56:43.317 --> 00:56:45.194
Oh, you voted by mail. Okay.

00:56:45.277 --> 00:56:47.279
♪♪

00:56:57.789 --> 00:56:58.790
[Errin]
Steve, you starting

00:56:58.873 --> 00:57:00.334
to get punchy, boo.

00:57:00.417 --> 00:57:01.710
Hold on.

00:57:05.630 --> 00:57:08.258
We don't like
the "what if" board, Steve.

00:57:08.342 --> 00:57:09.718
Hell no.

00:57:09.801 --> 00:57:11.720
We're here
for certainty, fool.

00:57:11.803 --> 00:57:13.680
Basically, show us results.

00:57:17.517 --> 00:57:19.436
[Joe Biden] We feel good
about where we are.

00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:21.396
I can tell you tonight,

00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:24.399
we believe we're on track
to win this election.

00:57:29.363 --> 00:57:30.864
[indistinct radio chatter]

00:57:30.947 --> 00:57:32.574
[Woman]
Count every vote.

00:57:34.034 --> 00:57:35.910
Count every vote.

00:57:35.995 --> 00:57:37.621
Count every vote.

00:57:37.704 --> 00:57:39.331
[News anchor]
We've been here

00:57:39.414 --> 00:57:41.750
at the decision desk
since Tuesday night.

00:57:41.833 --> 00:57:43.627
So Pennsylvania has come in

00:57:43.710 --> 00:57:45.295
and has put Joe Biden

00:57:45.379 --> 00:57:48.257
over the top to get to 279.

00:57:52.844 --> 00:57:55.514
Errin, despite being
a very young person,

00:57:55.597 --> 00:57:59.809
you are a veteran deadline
wire service writer at heart.

00:57:59.893 --> 00:58:02.437
I know you are.
So, on the spot,

00:58:02.521 --> 00:58:06.191
uh, if you were writing
the lead-all for The 19th*

00:58:06.275 --> 00:58:09.819
that everyone will log on
and read summing up tonight,

00:58:09.903 --> 00:58:12.031
summing up what
we've just been through,

00:58:12.114 --> 00:58:13.032
what would it be?

00:58:13.115 --> 00:58:14.491
Brian, you're right.

00:58:14.574 --> 00:58:16.160
I am a veteran,
which is why my story

00:58:16.243 --> 00:58:18.370
is already up at The 19th*,
uh, news.org

00:58:18.453 --> 00:58:19.788
if anybody wants
to check it out.

00:58:19.871 --> 00:58:21.748
But listen,
the Vice President-elect

00:58:21.831 --> 00:58:23.958
does not always speak on...

00:58:24.043 --> 00:58:25.919
on a night like this,
but in this case,

00:58:26.002 --> 00:58:29.298
history delayed was not going
to be history denied.

00:58:29.381 --> 00:58:32.301
A woman and a woman
of color taking the stage

00:58:32.384 --> 00:58:34.511
in preparing to serve
as the second

00:58:34.594 --> 00:58:37.056
most powerful person
in the country.

00:58:45.855 --> 00:58:46.940
[Emily] I'm so sorry again
that I missed

00:58:47.023 --> 00:58:48.317
last week's meeting.

00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:50.069
So I just wanted to walk through

00:58:50.152 --> 00:58:53.113
a couple of points
of conversation there. Um...

00:58:53.197 --> 00:58:54.489
basically
they were questioning

00:58:54.573 --> 00:58:56.325
how we are working
to serve women

00:58:56.408 --> 00:58:59.619
and others who don't identify
as progressive.

00:58:59.703 --> 00:59:02.247
Um, like I kept using,

00:59:02.331 --> 00:59:03.832
and it's all over our website,

00:59:03.915 --> 00:59:05.875
but I kept
using the word "intersectional."

00:59:05.959 --> 00:59:09.045
That's a term that's really only
used by progressive people.

00:59:09.129 --> 00:59:10.922
I'm curious

00:59:11.005 --> 00:59:12.966
what your sort of feelings
are about it.

00:59:13.049 --> 00:59:15.635
At the end of the day,
do I think our work...

00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:17.679
work that's focused
on gender equity

00:59:17.762 --> 00:59:20.640
is gonna... is gonna...
is going to,

00:59:20.724 --> 00:59:24.394
um, really deeply resonate
with the far right?

00:59:24.478 --> 00:59:26.771
Like, no, I'm not totally nuts,

00:59:26.855 --> 00:59:28.232
I'm not completely naive,

00:59:28.315 --> 00:59:30.734
but I think
there are a lot of people

00:59:30.817 --> 00:59:33.570
who fall on the spectrum
between that

00:59:33.653 --> 00:59:36.740
and... and the ultra-left.

00:59:36.823 --> 00:59:38.700
The last thing I wanna do ever

00:59:38.783 --> 00:59:40.577
is alienate an audience.

00:59:40.660 --> 00:59:42.579
So I don't know...

00:59:42.662 --> 00:59:44.581
I'm, you know,
I'm just rambling on this.

00:59:44.664 --> 00:59:46.958
I struggle with this.
I'm grappling with this.

00:59:51.921 --> 00:59:54.716
We are thrilled to have
Kellyanne Conway here with us

00:59:54.799 --> 00:59:57.511
to talk about women
in the 2020 election.

00:59:57.594 --> 00:59:59.971
So it's early December,
the votes have been counted.

01:00:00.054 --> 01:00:02.849
They're almost finished
recounting Georgia again.

01:00:02.932 --> 01:00:05.810
What's next?
Are we gonna see, um, this move

01:00:05.894 --> 01:00:08.355
into like more
of a normal transition period?

01:00:08.438 --> 01:00:09.898
Well, the President wants
to exhaust

01:00:09.981 --> 01:00:11.816
all of his,
uh, legal avenues as he has

01:00:11.900 --> 01:00:13.318
made clear many times.

01:00:13.402 --> 01:00:15.028
And I think
the President has a right

01:00:15.111 --> 01:00:16.988
to exhaust
his legal possibilities.

01:00:17.071 --> 01:00:20.492
We as a nation will move forward
because we always do.

01:00:20.575 --> 01:00:23.620
We're a strong,
sturdy democracy.

01:00:23.703 --> 01:00:24.704
♪♪

01:00:38.677 --> 01:00:40.679
- [crowd clamoring]
- [door banging]

01:00:43.598 --> 01:00:45.809
[News anchor] Looks like
we've lost the signal from Lisa

01:00:45.892 --> 01:00:49.145
and we're hearing
some sort of alarm go off.

01:00:49.229 --> 01:00:52.023
[News reporter] Capitol Police
are now on this floor...

01:00:52.106 --> 01:00:54.150
[indistinct]

01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:58.738
♪♪

01:01:57.714 --> 01:01:59.799
- [Woman speaking]
- I mean, it...

01:01:59.883 --> 01:02:01.760
it's made me think really deeply

01:02:01.843 --> 01:02:04.012
about who we cover
and who we serve.

01:02:04.095 --> 01:02:05.930
Both as... as journalists
and journalists

01:02:06.014 --> 01:02:08.767
whose peers and colleagues
are... were in the Capitol.

01:02:08.850 --> 01:02:10.477
Uh, and as Americans,

01:02:10.560 --> 01:02:14.898
it was just deeply,
deeply unsettling.

01:02:14.981 --> 01:02:17.150
You know, it...
it may be a turning point

01:02:17.233 --> 01:02:18.777
for our organization.
I don't know.

01:02:18.860 --> 01:02:20.111
You know, we've... we've tried

01:02:20.194 --> 01:02:21.738
to be as transparent
as we can be

01:02:21.821 --> 01:02:23.573
about the fact
that, you know, this isn't...

01:02:23.657 --> 01:02:25.284
our journalism
isn't about both sidesism.

01:02:25.367 --> 01:02:27.619
In some cases
there aren't two sides. [laughs]

01:02:27.702 --> 01:02:30.747
And you know, obviously this is
one of those circumstances

01:02:30.830 --> 01:02:32.499
where you need
to be really on the nose

01:02:32.582 --> 01:02:34.418
about who's perpetrating
these crimes,

01:02:34.501 --> 01:02:37.421
who's putting, uh, Americans
and elected officials in danger.

01:02:37.504 --> 01:02:39.005
And obviously in this case

01:02:39.088 --> 01:02:41.341
it was the President
of the United States.

01:02:46.930 --> 01:02:48.390
[Woman speaking]

01:02:48.473 --> 01:02:51.310
[Errin]
Fried. Totally frazzled.

01:02:51.393 --> 01:02:54.688
I'm reading a book about, um...

01:02:54.771 --> 01:02:56.440
The Color Purple
and Alice Walker

01:02:56.523 --> 01:02:58.107
and one of the things
that she says in that book

01:02:58.191 --> 01:03:00.109
is that, uh, "I write whatever

01:03:00.193 --> 01:03:01.611
I feel needs to be written.

01:03:01.695 --> 01:03:03.780
I work for the ancestors."
Period.

01:03:05.407 --> 01:03:07.409
♪♪

01:03:23.091 --> 01:03:24.759
[Jane] I was sure
that I was gonna scare you

01:03:24.843 --> 01:03:26.135
the other day when I came home

01:03:26.219 --> 01:03:27.929
and you had
these new headphones on.

01:03:28.012 --> 01:03:29.848
I just looked at you.

01:03:29.931 --> 01:03:31.725
[Jane] And you just looked
at me like it was normal.

01:03:31.808 --> 01:03:33.477
And I was like, maybe there
is something wrong with me.

01:03:33.560 --> 01:03:35.812
- [Kate laughs]
- That... that was surprising.

01:03:35.895 --> 01:03:37.981
That was revealing about me.

01:03:38.064 --> 01:03:39.566
I was like,
I'm taking that to therapy.

01:03:39.649 --> 01:03:41.568
[laughing]

01:03:41.651 --> 01:03:43.612
I'm startled when people sneak
up on me like you do.

01:03:43.695 --> 01:03:45.154
[Kate]
I'm not sneaking up on you.

01:03:45.238 --> 01:03:46.615
I live with you.

01:03:46.698 --> 01:03:48.825
[laughing]

01:03:50.369 --> 01:03:52.036
[Jane]
It's okay. Yeah.

01:03:52.120 --> 01:03:53.580
It's okay
that we live together.

01:03:53.663 --> 01:03:56.124
- I mean, it's...
- [laughing]

01:03:56.207 --> 01:03:57.751
[Jane]
I hope it's okay for you.

01:03:57.834 --> 01:04:00.504
[Kate] It's great.
I love living with you.

01:04:04.424 --> 01:04:06.009
[News anchor]
This is 1A.

01:04:06.092 --> 01:04:07.761
In 2021 alone,

01:04:07.844 --> 01:04:10.639
25 states have introduced
over 70 bills

01:04:10.722 --> 01:04:13.933
targeting transgender people
overtaking 2020's total.

01:04:14.017 --> 01:04:15.810
And they range from denying

01:04:15.894 --> 01:04:17.521
gender-affirming healthcare
to kids who need it

01:04:17.604 --> 01:04:19.981
to barring participation
in school sports.

01:04:20.064 --> 01:04:22.358
To discuss, we're joined
by Kate Sosin.

01:04:22.442 --> 01:04:25.153
It feels like there's a...
a strategic messaging

01:04:25.236 --> 01:04:28.907
around what will galvanize
the Republican party

01:04:28.990 --> 01:04:33.036
and bring voters that they lost
back to the polls

01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:35.371
in the wake of the loss
of the White House.

01:04:35.455 --> 01:04:36.748
[News anchor]
And before we go on,

01:04:36.831 --> 01:04:38.041
I just wanna mention

01:04:38.124 --> 01:04:39.668
that if you need support,

01:04:39.751 --> 01:04:41.085
the National Suicide
Prevention...

01:04:42.546 --> 01:04:44.714
- [computer dings]
- [Abby J] Hello.

01:04:44.798 --> 01:04:47.300
- Hi.
- [Abby J] How's it going?

01:04:47.383 --> 01:04:48.927
Andrea was like, I realize

01:04:49.010 --> 01:04:50.762
that you're doing
all these stories

01:04:50.845 --> 01:04:52.889
that like tell you
you're not a human.

01:04:52.972 --> 01:04:55.266
If you need to just take a day,
go ahead.

01:04:55.349 --> 01:04:57.477
And I was like, thank you.

01:04:57.561 --> 01:04:59.270
That's fair. For real.

01:04:59.353 --> 01:05:01.355
Like, I hope... I hope you know

01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:03.191
that you can
always just be like, "Abby,

01:05:03.274 --> 01:05:05.068
I can't today." Like... and...

01:05:05.151 --> 01:05:08.237
Do you know
how like not common that is?

01:05:08.321 --> 01:05:10.824
[laughs]
That's like not a real thing

01:05:10.907 --> 01:05:13.284
that newsrooms do for people.

01:05:16.162 --> 01:05:18.582
[Abby J] Any... any... any help
that we can get

01:05:18.665 --> 01:05:20.291
on the LGBTQ beat,

01:05:20.374 --> 01:05:22.085
but we can't have Kate
as the only person

01:05:22.168 --> 01:05:23.712
who writes about LGBTQ issues

01:05:23.795 --> 01:05:25.922
because they are myriad.

01:05:26.005 --> 01:05:27.716
Um, especially right now.

01:05:27.799 --> 01:05:29.884
Uh, practicing what we preach

01:05:29.968 --> 01:05:31.344
when it comes to building out

01:05:31.427 --> 01:05:33.597
our LGBTQ coverage
is really important.

01:05:33.680 --> 01:05:35.431
You know, start
to put feelers out for that.

01:05:36.933 --> 01:05:39.519
[Kate] I'm doing a story
on the nation's first

01:05:39.603 --> 01:05:42.063
rural trans health clinic

01:05:42.146 --> 01:05:46.610
and also the first trans-led
health clinic

01:05:46.693 --> 01:05:48.737
at a time when lots of states

01:05:48.820 --> 01:05:51.823
are trying to roll back
trans healthcare protections.

01:05:51.906 --> 01:05:54.909
This clinic
is actually leading the nation

01:05:54.993 --> 01:05:56.620
in trans healthcare.

01:06:01.625 --> 01:06:02.959
[Dallas] It's so good
to finally meet you.

01:06:03.042 --> 01:06:04.377
[Kate] Good to meet you.
Yeah, it has.

01:06:04.460 --> 01:06:06.254
[laughing]

01:06:07.380 --> 01:06:09.716
It's an intervention in itself
to be able to walk in

01:06:09.799 --> 01:06:11.718
and see yourself reflected
in your provider.

01:06:11.801 --> 01:06:13.803
- Like that's amazing.
- Yeah.

01:06:13.887 --> 01:06:16.598
[Dallas] I was
at the Mass General Hospital

01:06:16.681 --> 01:06:18.725
Trans Health Program
and a lot of times

01:06:18.808 --> 01:06:20.434
the parents would come
in the room and they'd say,

01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:21.978
"Oh, this trans thing is
such a phase."

01:06:22.061 --> 01:06:24.147
And... and they wouldn't know
that I was trans

01:06:24.230 --> 01:06:26.691
and I would have to choose,
do I out myself?

01:06:26.775 --> 01:06:29.277
- That is really rough.
- [Dallas] Yeah, Yeah.

01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:31.821
- To do that over and over again.
- [Dallas] But I... I...

01:06:31.905 --> 01:06:33.532
I wouldn't trade it
for the world.

01:06:33.615 --> 01:06:35.408
[Kate] I mean, it's deeply
important work.

01:06:35.491 --> 01:06:38.161
It's some of the only work
that's happening like this.

01:06:38.244 --> 01:06:39.579
[Dallas]
Yes.

01:06:40.580 --> 01:06:44.167
I mean, it sounds like already
you've tapped into a need

01:06:44.250 --> 01:06:47.128
that is bigger than this clinic.

01:06:47.211 --> 01:06:49.631
[Arin]
I think so. The adult patients

01:06:49.714 --> 01:06:52.425
haven't seen a doctor
in like decades.

01:06:52.508 --> 01:06:54.761
[Kate] Why haven't they seen
a provider in 10 years?

01:06:54.844 --> 01:06:56.638
A lot of trauma.

01:06:56.721 --> 01:06:58.557
How many of us
have ever been seen

01:06:58.640 --> 01:07:01.100
by a trans healthcare provider?

01:07:01.184 --> 01:07:02.769
[Arin] Not me, that's for sure.

01:07:02.852 --> 01:07:04.187
No. I haven't either.

01:07:04.270 --> 01:07:06.230
I can't imagine
what that would be like.

01:07:06.314 --> 01:07:08.274
And like 10-year-olds come in
and like the first thing

01:07:08.357 --> 01:07:10.109
they see is my flag
and they're like,

01:07:10.193 --> 01:07:13.196
"Oh my god, Mom,
look at the flag."

01:07:13.279 --> 01:07:15.406
[laughing]

01:07:15.489 --> 01:07:16.741
[Kate] Can I ask how
you identify

01:07:16.825 --> 01:07:17.826
in terms of gender?

01:07:17.909 --> 01:07:19.994
Cisgender male, gay, queer?

01:07:20.078 --> 01:07:21.955
Yeah. I use queer more,

01:07:22.038 --> 01:07:24.457
but I don't use it
in the gender sense.

01:07:24.540 --> 01:07:25.959
I use it in the sort of global,

01:07:26.042 --> 01:07:28.962
like, "let's all be part
of one family."

01:07:29.045 --> 01:07:30.797
I'm gonna...
that is actually going

01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:32.298
- in your title.
- Oh, good.

01:07:32.381 --> 01:07:33.967
When the first bills came out,

01:07:34.050 --> 01:07:35.468
they were gonna make it a felony

01:07:35.551 --> 01:07:37.428
for doctors
to write prescriptions

01:07:37.511 --> 01:07:38.888
or provide gender-affirming care
for kids.

01:07:38.972 --> 01:07:40.599
People were like, "All right,

01:07:40.682 --> 01:07:42.266
how do I get licensed
in Arkansas?

01:07:42.350 --> 01:07:44.310
When can I fly down?"

01:07:44.393 --> 01:07:45.937
- Really?
- [Dr. Andrew] Yeah.

01:07:46.020 --> 01:07:48.189
So doctors are willing to go
and get arrested.

01:07:48.272 --> 01:07:50.066
[Dr. Andrew]
For this, yeah.

01:07:53.778 --> 01:07:55.864
We are going
to Hampshire College,

01:07:55.947 --> 01:08:00.201
which is where I went
to undergrad.

01:08:00.284 --> 01:08:02.286
It's also the place where I...

01:08:02.370 --> 01:08:04.664
figured out that I was trans.

01:08:05.749 --> 01:08:07.041
It wasn't
really a safe place

01:08:07.125 --> 01:08:08.501
to come out where I grew up.

01:08:08.584 --> 01:08:11.921
I grew up south of Chicago.

01:08:12.005 --> 01:08:14.633
All right, let's do this.

01:08:16.009 --> 01:08:17.719
I'm like all 19th*'d out.

01:08:17.802 --> 01:08:19.553
It's like a little bit...

01:08:19.638 --> 01:08:21.180
I feel like a billboard.

01:08:23.767 --> 01:08:25.769
[scatting, humming]

01:08:28.271 --> 01:08:30.106
This is the writing center,

01:08:30.189 --> 01:08:33.526
which is basically
where I spent all four years.

01:08:36.362 --> 01:08:37.822
Hampshire.

01:08:37.906 --> 01:08:39.741
Look how pretty you are.

01:08:44.245 --> 01:08:46.164
When I was in undergrad,

01:08:46.247 --> 01:08:48.457
we have a self-designed
concentration, right?

01:08:48.541 --> 01:08:51.210
So you get to make up
what you wanna study.

01:08:51.294 --> 01:08:53.629
And mine was called
"Writing for Communities."

01:08:53.713 --> 01:08:55.381
And the idea was that,

01:08:55.464 --> 01:08:58.592
a journalist doesn't create
a piece, right?

01:08:58.677 --> 01:09:00.720
Like your name might be
on the byline,

01:09:00.804 --> 01:09:03.848
but really it's the product
of an entire community.

01:09:03.932 --> 01:09:06.392
So if I do the piece

01:09:06.475 --> 01:09:08.186
the way I'm supposed to,

01:09:08.269 --> 01:09:09.938
it's not really mine.

01:09:10.021 --> 01:09:12.565
Like everybody has a role
in that.

01:09:12.648 --> 01:09:14.901
Everybody who speaks to it,
everybody who lives it,

01:09:14.984 --> 01:09:16.861
it's like everybody's story.

01:09:16.945 --> 01:09:18.112
♪♪

01:09:21.074 --> 01:09:22.826
[Emily]
I wanna start this week

01:09:22.909 --> 01:09:25.203
with Kate's really beautiful
trans health story.

01:09:25.286 --> 01:09:26.830
We saw a ton of pickup
and interest.

01:09:26.913 --> 01:09:28.790
Uh, the story was shared
super widely,

01:09:28.873 --> 01:09:31.334
but also it was really shared
widely by people,

01:09:31.417 --> 01:09:34.087
anybody really, who wants
compassionate healthcare

01:09:34.170 --> 01:09:36.339
for themselves
and their families.

01:09:36.422 --> 01:09:38.925
[Alexandra] We had almost
16,000 interactions

01:09:39.008 --> 01:09:41.928
with this story
on our Facebook post alone.

01:09:42.011 --> 01:09:43.930
I don't know
if I've seen that many

01:09:44.013 --> 01:09:46.725
on one individual post
from us yet.

01:09:51.270 --> 01:09:54.648
[Alexandra] Our most shared
tweet, Kate's story.

01:09:55.817 --> 01:09:57.193
♪♪

01:10:01.030 --> 01:10:04.200
[Alexandra] There are quite
a few LGBTQ+ groups

01:10:04.283 --> 01:10:07.036
who are sharing
Kate's stories regularly

01:10:07.120 --> 01:10:09.163
and we're seeing
some new visitors

01:10:09.247 --> 01:10:11.833
come to us through that.

01:10:14.668 --> 01:10:15.837
♪♪

01:10:28.557 --> 01:10:30.143
[Errin]
Hey, what's going on?

01:10:30.226 --> 01:10:31.394
How are you?

01:10:31.477 --> 01:10:33.187
Um, good.

01:10:33.271 --> 01:10:36.440
This is, I think, my first
like free day in,

01:10:36.524 --> 01:10:37.942
I don't know, six, seven months.

01:10:38.026 --> 01:10:40.028
- Right. Right.
- How are you feeling?

01:10:40.111 --> 01:10:42.155
I mean, I wrote
a whole story yesterday

01:10:42.238 --> 01:10:43.531
and put the wrong day
in the story,

01:10:43.614 --> 01:10:44.949
so, you know,
that's where I'm at.

01:10:45.033 --> 01:10:46.617
[laughs]
Oh, yeah. I did that once

01:10:46.700 --> 01:10:48.661
and it was like
every Abby correction

01:10:48.744 --> 01:10:51.164
- was like, "It's Wednesday."
- Oh no. Nobody caught that shit.

01:10:51.247 --> 01:10:53.541
It totally went on the...
on the site.

01:10:53.624 --> 01:10:55.209
Well, here's the other thing,
because I mentioned this

01:10:55.293 --> 01:10:57.670
to Sereena. Um...

01:10:57.753 --> 01:10:59.630
like there's...
I feel like there's a way,

01:10:59.713 --> 01:11:01.549
um, tied
to the pandemic anniversary

01:11:01.632 --> 01:11:03.176
to talk about how,

01:11:03.259 --> 01:11:05.594
um, you know, The 19th*,

01:11:05.678 --> 01:11:07.263
like, as a newsroom,

01:11:07.346 --> 01:11:09.390
we were also,
you know, personally impacted.

01:11:09.473 --> 01:11:10.975
[Chabeli]
I like that idea.

01:11:11.059 --> 01:11:12.643
I've been like noodling
a little bit

01:11:12.726 --> 01:11:13.769
to write about my grandfather
a little.

01:11:13.853 --> 01:11:15.313
That too. People who've lost...

01:11:15.396 --> 01:11:17.690
I mean, we also lost
family members in this.

01:11:17.773 --> 01:11:20.068
[Chabeli] I actually think
March 11th is the...

01:11:20.151 --> 01:11:21.777
The anniversary. Yeah.

01:11:21.861 --> 01:11:24.405
Oh, God.
That's gonna be a lot for you.

01:11:24.488 --> 01:11:25.781
[Chabeli]
Yeah.

01:11:28.117 --> 01:11:30.536
This is my writing corner.
[laughs]

01:11:39.795 --> 01:11:41.130
Hey, babe...

01:11:41.214 --> 01:11:42.590
[Manny]
What?

01:11:42.673 --> 01:11:44.383
...can you come here a second?

01:11:45.969 --> 01:11:47.470
Hm?

01:11:47.553 --> 01:11:50.431
Can I read you
what I have so far?

01:11:50.514 --> 01:11:52.350
Wow. I don't really wanna say
this out loud.

01:11:52.433 --> 01:11:54.477
- Okay.
- I can read it.

01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:56.104
Okay. Um, I just have
to read it out loud

01:11:56.187 --> 01:11:58.772
'cause it helps me to hear it.

01:11:58.857 --> 01:12:00.149
Um...

01:12:01.985 --> 01:12:03.527
"I ripped off the N-95 mask

01:12:03.611 --> 01:12:05.613
and threw it in a bin
outside of the hospital.

01:12:05.696 --> 01:12:08.199
I didn't want
to take any of it with me,

01:12:08.282 --> 01:12:09.742
not the gown or the gloves

01:12:09.825 --> 01:12:11.660
they'd given me,
the face shield,

01:12:11.744 --> 01:12:13.371
or that mask,

01:12:13.454 --> 01:12:16.665
but my face was still lined
with its outline.

01:12:16.749 --> 01:12:19.210
The brightness outside
was almost offensive.

01:12:19.293 --> 01:12:21.337
When we were inside, it felt

01:12:21.420 --> 01:12:24.215
like the virus had
finally swallowed us whole.

01:12:26.092 --> 01:12:27.635
I understand
why they don't let people

01:12:27.718 --> 01:12:30.013
into the hospital
to see their family members,

01:12:30.096 --> 01:12:33.307
but we later wondered how much
that isolation affected him.

01:12:33.391 --> 01:12:36.310
His mental health deteriorated
with each day he was alone.

01:12:36.394 --> 01:12:38.312
And because the staff
was so busy,

01:12:38.396 --> 01:12:40.689
he barely saw anyone at all.

01:12:40.773 --> 01:12:43.401
We took our spots
holding each hand.

01:12:43.484 --> 01:12:46.154
Maybe seven minutes passed
before he took a breath,

01:12:46.237 --> 01:12:47.906
then I knew it was done."

01:12:51.659 --> 01:12:53.161
♪♪

01:13:27.611 --> 01:13:29.197
[Chabeli] Errin texted me
yesterday actually.

01:13:29.280 --> 01:13:30.323
She's so sweet.

01:13:30.406 --> 01:13:32.116
She was like, uh...

01:13:34.577 --> 01:13:36.037
she's like,
"I'm very, very sorry

01:13:36.120 --> 01:13:38.331
your grandpa's part
of this number today."

01:13:38.414 --> 01:13:41.584
Um... "But you are his legacy.

01:13:41.667 --> 01:13:42.961
Your work honors him

01:13:43.044 --> 01:13:45.504
and the love and pride
he had for you."

01:13:45.588 --> 01:13:47.131
Yeah.

01:13:53.972 --> 01:13:56.599
[Nikole] Hey, Errin,
what is that? Some leather?

01:13:56.682 --> 01:13:58.809
- What you got there?
- Girl, "vegan leather,"

01:13:58.892 --> 01:14:01.270
as they refer to it. I guess.

01:14:08.861 --> 01:14:10.446
But I mean,
I feel like something feels new

01:14:10.529 --> 01:14:12.948
about the climate
in which we now find ourselves.

01:14:13.032 --> 01:14:15.618
I knew there would be
some backlash, of course,

01:14:15.701 --> 01:14:18.662
if this was, uh, a narrative,

01:14:18.746 --> 01:14:21.874
uh, that we were willing
to confront.

01:14:21.957 --> 01:14:25.044
The 1619 Project would not need
to exist in the first place.

01:14:25.128 --> 01:14:27.796
I never would have...

01:14:29.007 --> 01:14:30.549
even contemplated

01:14:30.633 --> 01:14:32.843
that there would be laws
being passed,

01:14:32.926 --> 01:14:34.387
trying to ban the teaching

01:14:34.470 --> 01:14:37.140
of an America work
of journalism.

01:14:37.223 --> 01:14:39.642
Journalism is the firewall
of our democracy.

01:14:39.725 --> 01:14:42.228
What have you learned
about representing...

01:14:42.311 --> 01:14:44.438
why do you continue to represent
despite the cost

01:14:44.522 --> 01:14:46.524
and... and why do you feel
like it's important

01:14:46.607 --> 01:14:48.859
for others to really represent
in solidarity

01:14:48.942 --> 01:14:50.819
of women journalists
and journalists of color?

01:14:50.903 --> 01:14:54.365
Representation and tokenism
are two different things.

01:14:54.448 --> 01:14:57.118
Representation
is someone like yourself,

01:14:57.201 --> 01:15:00.579
where you have
an active leadership role,

01:15:00.663 --> 01:15:03.957
where you are shaping
where the institution is going.

01:15:04.042 --> 01:15:06.210
Well, I so appreciate
you saying that,

01:15:06.294 --> 01:15:08.046
uh, because it does matter.

01:15:10.839 --> 01:15:12.841
[Emily] I wanna talk a little
bit about what our mission is

01:15:12.925 --> 01:15:14.302
and who we're for.

01:15:14.385 --> 01:15:16.512
Um, both of those things,
honestly,

01:15:16.595 --> 01:15:18.764
uh, really have evolved
for us in the last year

01:15:18.847 --> 01:15:20.349
and... and with your help,

01:15:20.433 --> 01:15:22.435
um, they're continuing
to evolve.

01:15:22.518 --> 01:15:25.979
So, our new mission
is to empower those we serve,

01:15:26.064 --> 01:15:28.023
particularly women,
people of color,

01:15:28.107 --> 01:15:30.693
and anyone marginalized
based on their gender or race.

01:15:32.027 --> 01:15:34.280
I wanna, you know, specifically
obviously call out Kate,

01:15:34.363 --> 01:15:36.240
who has been
an extraordinary guidepost

01:15:36.324 --> 01:15:39.202
for me in these conversations.

01:15:39.285 --> 01:15:43.164
I want a place that's committing
to constantly working,

01:15:43.247 --> 01:15:47.376
and so far...
that's what I've seen

01:15:47.460 --> 01:15:50.838
and it's completely different
place than when I started.

01:15:50.921 --> 01:15:53.424
Yeah, I mean, I think
we've had hard discussions

01:15:53.507 --> 01:15:55.384
and conversations
about what we're doing.

01:15:55.468 --> 01:15:57.095
If we fall
into the same patterns

01:15:57.178 --> 01:15:58.887
as other news organizations,

01:15:58.971 --> 01:16:01.265
are we really that different

01:16:01.349 --> 01:16:05.060
or are we, you know, just talk?

01:16:07.896 --> 01:16:10.316
[Anne] Emily Ramshaw is here
to tell us more about The 19th*

01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:12.818
and she joins me now
from member Station KUT

01:16:12.901 --> 01:16:15.238
in Austin, Texas.

01:16:15.321 --> 01:16:18.449
[Kate] I think Emily saw
at the beginning

01:16:18.532 --> 01:16:22.703
every mistake
as a personal failing

01:16:22.786 --> 01:16:24.455
and took that really hard.

01:16:24.538 --> 01:16:26.707
And she has really led us

01:16:26.790 --> 01:16:29.252
and like been willing to hear

01:16:29.335 --> 01:16:31.212
some really hard feedback.

01:16:31.295 --> 01:16:33.339
I think what was difficult
was that

01:16:33.422 --> 01:16:35.841
there were people on our team
who were hurt.

01:16:35.924 --> 01:16:37.718
You realize
you didn't have the answers

01:16:37.801 --> 01:16:39.011
that you thought you had.

01:16:39.094 --> 01:16:40.721
And, uh, your own,

01:16:40.804 --> 01:16:43.182
uh, privilege
and power structures

01:16:43.266 --> 01:16:45.100
and the communities
you were raised in

01:16:45.184 --> 01:16:46.852
and the ways
that you've lived your life

01:16:46.935 --> 01:16:48.646
are in some ways detriments

01:16:48.729 --> 01:16:50.273
to the work
that needs to be done.

01:16:55.653 --> 01:16:57.988
[Emily] And the, you know,
the effectively the 18 months

01:16:58.071 --> 01:16:59.490
that we've been at this,

01:16:59.573 --> 01:17:03.161
our team has endured
a global pandemic,

01:17:03.244 --> 01:17:05.371
you know,
the George Floyd murder

01:17:05.454 --> 01:17:08.249
and the summer of racial
reckoning, Breonna Taylor,

01:17:08.332 --> 01:17:11.043
um, you know, and, uh...
[laughs]

01:17:11.126 --> 01:17:12.378
...an insurrection
at the highest levels

01:17:12.461 --> 01:17:13.462
of government.

01:17:13.546 --> 01:17:16.590
And I think, um, we have...

01:17:16.674 --> 01:17:18.342
one thing
that I think is really critical

01:17:18.426 --> 01:17:21.345
is how much Amanda and I
have learned from our team.

01:17:21.429 --> 01:17:23.306
Uh, how critical listening was,

01:17:23.389 --> 01:17:26.809
how many, uh, blind spots
I had going into this.

01:17:26.892 --> 01:17:28.644
[News reporter]
What was the difference

01:17:28.727 --> 01:17:31.897
between nonpartisan
and independent?

01:17:31.980 --> 01:17:35.484
Why is that such a key
difference?

01:17:35.568 --> 01:17:37.361
The term "nonpartisan,"
in many ways,

01:17:37.445 --> 01:17:40.198
has become co-opted,
I think to mean both sides-ism.

01:17:40.281 --> 01:17:42.408
To mean
that you are equally covering

01:17:42.491 --> 01:17:44.327
and equally giving voice to,

01:17:44.410 --> 01:17:47.371
uh, you know, both, uh, folks
in both political parties

01:17:47.455 --> 01:17:50.791
regardless of whether
they are, uh, informing people

01:17:50.874 --> 01:17:52.543
with facts
or accurate information.

01:17:52.626 --> 01:17:56.505
[News reporter] Is that...
Emily, what you meant

01:17:56.589 --> 01:17:59.550
when you said "the baggage
of legacy media"?

01:17:59.633 --> 01:18:01.469
- Yep. It's exactly what I meant.
- [News reporter] I think

01:18:01.552 --> 01:18:03.471
that's a huge piece of baggage
that legacy media has.

01:18:03.554 --> 01:18:05.013
Yep.

01:18:06.765 --> 01:18:08.851
♪♪

01:18:08.934 --> 01:18:10.228
[News reporter] In Texas today,

01:18:10.311 --> 01:18:11.812
abortion rights guaranteed

01:18:11.895 --> 01:18:13.314
by decades of precedent

01:18:13.397 --> 01:18:15.316
are effectively gone.

01:18:17.401 --> 01:18:19.570
I will say
that there are a lot of places

01:18:19.653 --> 01:18:22.531
that I think should have been
primed to cover this,

01:18:22.615 --> 01:18:24.658
uh, that really dropped
the ball.

01:18:24.742 --> 01:18:28.203
Would this change things
for people accessing

01:18:28.287 --> 01:18:30.998
not just abortion services,
but everything else?

01:18:31.081 --> 01:18:33.041
Like, it's all kinds
of reproductive care

01:18:33.125 --> 01:18:34.502
that we're gonna lose?

01:18:35.294 --> 01:18:37.004
I'm really curious about what
the corporate response

01:18:37.087 --> 01:18:38.714
to all of this is.

01:18:38.797 --> 01:18:40.383
'Cause I think a lot of places
have been real quiet.

01:18:40.466 --> 01:18:42.801
We don't know when oral
arguments are going to be out

01:18:42.885 --> 01:18:45.679
of on the Mississippi case,
uh, just yet,

01:18:45.763 --> 01:18:48.557
but, or it's going to start
the ticking clock

01:18:48.641 --> 01:18:51.018
of what this could do to Roe.

01:18:56.399 --> 01:18:59.192
[Kate]
Hi. How are you?

01:18:59.277 --> 01:19:01.695
Living the dream.

01:19:01.779 --> 01:19:05.741
Yeah, we've,
it's like all hands on deck.

01:19:05.824 --> 01:19:09.787
Um, I'm doing a story
on what closure

01:19:09.870 --> 01:19:12.748
of abortion clinics could mean
for LGBTQ+ people

01:19:12.831 --> 01:19:16.460
because they provide
some of the only primary care

01:19:16.544 --> 01:19:18.462
that's gender affirming.

01:19:18.546 --> 01:19:22.508
I know. I, um, I just keep
adding Halloween decorations.

01:19:22.591 --> 01:19:24.343
[laughs]

01:19:24.427 --> 01:19:26.929
[phone line ringing]

01:19:27.012 --> 01:19:28.764
[News interviewee] Hi.

01:19:28.847 --> 01:19:29.890
- [Kate] Hi, it's Kate.
- [News interviewee] Kate?

01:19:29.973 --> 01:19:31.809
[Kate] Yeah. How are you?

01:19:31.892 --> 01:19:33.644
[News interviewee]
I'm, uh, I'm good.

01:19:33.727 --> 01:19:35.438
How are you? I mean,
I'm not good. I'm terrible.

01:19:35.521 --> 01:19:37.815
I'm trying to keep my mood up
in light of, uh,

01:19:37.898 --> 01:19:39.942
my life's work
being obliterated.

01:19:40.025 --> 01:19:43.070
It's fine.

01:19:43.153 --> 01:19:45.155
It's a fair response. [laughs]

01:19:45.238 --> 01:19:48.367
And so you are someone
who has used

01:19:48.451 --> 01:19:51.203
services at an abortion
provider.

01:19:51.286 --> 01:19:52.287
[News interviewee]
I had an abortion

01:19:52.371 --> 01:19:54.122
when I was 16 years old.

01:19:54.206 --> 01:19:57.292
I was seeing a doctor
at Planned Parenthood

01:19:57.376 --> 01:20:01.714
for access to testosterone.

01:20:01.797 --> 01:20:05.968
[sighs] What does it feel
like for you to watch this law

01:20:06.051 --> 01:20:07.970
in Texas take effect?

01:20:11.390 --> 01:20:13.601
[News interviewee] The reason
I had an abortion personally

01:20:13.684 --> 01:20:16.103
was because I had been
sexually assaulted that summer.

01:20:16.186 --> 01:20:18.564
And so I've been linked,
I think, to the person

01:20:18.647 --> 01:20:21.400
for the rest of my life.

01:20:21.484 --> 01:20:23.402
And I think
this is applicable, right?

01:20:23.486 --> 01:20:26.321
Because SBA doesn't allow
any exceptions for abortion.

01:20:26.405 --> 01:20:28.532
Not in the case of rape
or incest.

01:20:28.616 --> 01:20:29.950
Yeah.

01:20:30.033 --> 01:20:31.243
[sighs]

01:20:37.375 --> 01:20:40.210
If this law is allowed to stand,

01:20:40.293 --> 01:20:44.382
it could mean the end of access

01:20:44.465 --> 01:20:48.386
to abortion

01:20:48.469 --> 01:20:52.973
and reproductive care
across the nation.

01:20:53.056 --> 01:20:57.728
And that is also connected

01:20:57.811 --> 01:21:01.399
to gender-affirming care
for a lot of folks.

01:21:01.482 --> 01:21:05.986
And it's, it's huge.

01:21:06.069 --> 01:21:07.070
♪♪

01:21:16.121 --> 01:21:18.582
♪♪

01:21:18.666 --> 01:21:21.460
[News reporter] Coming up here,
what the press is getting wrong

01:21:21.544 --> 01:21:23.671
in its coverage
of the Texas abortion law.

01:21:23.754 --> 01:21:29.009
We're gonna go
live with Emily Ramshaw next.

01:21:29.092 --> 01:21:32.680
[Greg] It provides, uh,
at least six weeks, uh,

01:21:32.763 --> 01:21:37.350
for a person, uh, to be able
to, uh, get an abortion.

01:21:37.435 --> 01:21:39.311
You can't even get a fucking
pregnancy test to tell you

01:21:39.394 --> 01:21:43.023
that you're fucking pregnant
until at least four weeks

01:21:43.106 --> 01:21:46.444
at best, if you are like
obsessively checking.

01:21:46.527 --> 01:21:51.156
That's not how pregnancy works,
Governor Abbott.

01:21:51.239 --> 01:21:56.078
[chanting] Hey hey, ho ho,
Roe v Wade has got to go.

01:21:56.161 --> 01:21:58.747
[Protestors] Abortion pills
are in our hands

01:21:58.831 --> 01:22:02.084
and we won't stop.

01:22:02.167 --> 01:22:04.169
[Candice] I'm a reporter
with The 19th*.

01:22:04.252 --> 01:22:06.379
We cover gender... Yeah.

01:22:07.047 --> 01:22:09.257
So I, I'm not counsel
on the Mississippi case,

01:22:09.341 --> 01:22:11.009
but I am counsel
on the Texas case.

01:22:11.093 --> 01:22:13.846
[speaking]

01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:19.184
[News interviewee]
There's been a lot of questions

01:22:19.267 --> 01:22:21.770
about any kind
of miscarriage management.

01:22:21.854 --> 01:22:24.189
When is this an abortion?
When is it a miscarriage?

01:22:24.272 --> 01:22:25.983
[Orion R] Thank you so much
for your time.

01:22:26.066 --> 01:22:27.192
[News interviewee] No problem.
Looking forward

01:22:27.275 --> 01:22:28.694
to seeing what you write.

01:22:28.777 --> 01:22:29.987
[Orion R]
Uh, thank you so much.

01:22:30.070 --> 01:22:31.572
It's already up. Actually.

01:22:31.655 --> 01:22:33.491
I'm...
I've been updating it all day.

01:22:33.574 --> 01:22:35.493
It's our explainer, so that's
why I've been like frantic today

01:22:35.576 --> 01:22:37.745
'cause we have a lot
of reader questions.

01:22:37.828 --> 01:22:40.539
[News interviewee laugh]
Right? I imagine. I imagine.

01:22:40.623 --> 01:22:43.000
They were out there yesterday
with bull horns and lights.

01:22:43.083 --> 01:22:46.920
They called the police on us
yesterday for capacity issues.

01:22:47.004 --> 01:22:49.464
They called the fire marshal
on us twice yesterday.

01:22:49.548 --> 01:22:52.467
Um, it doesn't stop, you know,
they don't take a win.

01:22:52.551 --> 01:22:53.844
They don't even accept
their win.

01:22:53.927 --> 01:22:55.721
It does not stop.

01:22:59.266 --> 01:23:02.394
[Olivia] With Texas's six-week
abortion ban becoming law,

01:23:02.477 --> 01:23:05.898
there may not be a better
time for The 19th* to exist.

01:23:05.981 --> 01:23:08.150
♪♪

01:23:16.992 --> 01:23:19.202
♪♪

01:23:20.328 --> 01:23:22.330
[News anchor] The 19th*
has been covering this nonstop.

01:23:22.414 --> 01:23:24.416
[News anchor] Joining us now
to discuss is Jennifer Gerson,

01:23:24.499 --> 01:23:25.834
- reporter at The 19th*.
- [News anchor] Errin Haines,

01:23:25.918 --> 01:23:27.502
editor-at-large for The 19th*.

01:23:27.586 --> 01:23:29.087
[News anchor]
Shefali, what does this mean

01:23:29.171 --> 01:23:31.131
as far as a precedent, for,
for other cases,

01:23:31.214 --> 01:23:33.717
right? And for ultimately
Roe v. Wade.

01:23:33.801 --> 01:23:35.636
This is so far
from an isolated incident.

01:23:35.719 --> 01:23:37.888
It's really just the beginning
of what is one of the most

01:23:37.971 --> 01:23:40.766
important healthcare access
stories of our current moment.

01:23:40.849 --> 01:23:42.267
The lesson or reminder here

01:23:42.350 --> 01:23:43.686
is that elections
have consequences.

01:23:43.769 --> 01:23:45.312
What we're seeing happening
in Texas

01:23:45.395 --> 01:23:47.439
is probably the biggest example

01:23:47.522 --> 01:23:50.609
of that fact post-2016,
despite the fact that women

01:23:50.693 --> 01:23:53.528
are half the population
and half the electorate.

01:23:53.612 --> 01:23:56.364
Sixty-seven abortions
in 17 hours,

01:23:56.448 --> 01:23:58.617
then, it was a pretty
incredible article.

01:23:58.701 --> 01:24:00.243
They looked around
and they thought,

01:24:00.327 --> 01:24:02.329
we're not gonna get
to all of the people

01:24:02.412 --> 01:24:04.164
that are here waiting
for an abortion,

01:24:04.247 --> 01:24:05.874
and this law is gonna go
into effect.

01:24:05.958 --> 01:24:07.167
This is our moment
to fight back.

01:24:07.250 --> 01:24:08.919
This is our moment to try.

01:24:09.002 --> 01:24:11.379
When you saw the media
finally pick up on this story,

01:24:11.463 --> 01:24:12.840
um, the conversation was,

01:24:12.923 --> 01:24:14.257
you know,
is this actually going to be

01:24:14.341 --> 01:24:15.968
good for Biden in the long run

01:24:16.051 --> 01:24:17.636
or is this going to,
you know, cripple,

01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:19.387
uh, Republicans down the road?

01:24:19.471 --> 01:24:21.431
Instead
of having conversations

01:24:21.514 --> 01:24:23.391
about how people
were being affected

01:24:23.475 --> 01:24:25.227
on the ground here in Texas

01:24:25.310 --> 01:24:28.230
and probably eventually
in many more southern states.

01:24:28.313 --> 01:24:30.398
We talked to New York Mag
yesterday,

01:24:30.482 --> 01:24:32.442
just about potentially
partnering.

01:24:32.525 --> 01:24:34.444
Uh, they, they specifically

01:24:34.527 --> 01:24:36.196
got in touch
because of Chabeli's story.

01:24:36.279 --> 01:24:38.573
Yeah, I mean, it's just
like such brilliant reporting.

01:24:38.657 --> 01:24:40.826
♪♪

01:24:57.926 --> 01:25:00.679
♪♪

01:25:00.763 --> 01:25:04.099
[Chabeli] Well, the Fox News
did kind of a story on it today.

01:25:04.182 --> 01:25:06.476
Where they were questioning
the safety of doing that

01:25:06.559 --> 01:25:10.313
many abortions an hour,
which is a fair question.

01:25:10.397 --> 01:25:14.151
- I don't know.
- [Chelsea speaking]

01:25:14.234 --> 01:25:16.194
I don't know. I mean, it's like,
it's the thing you always do.

01:25:16.278 --> 01:25:17.946
It's not that different

01:25:18.030 --> 01:25:20.448
from everything else we do
in journalism, right?

01:25:20.532 --> 01:25:23.952
You're just trying to make sure
you're fair to the story.

01:25:24.036 --> 01:25:25.412
Um...

01:25:28.581 --> 01:25:30.292
this one, I mean, I don't know.

01:25:30.375 --> 01:25:33.837
This one is like one where...
what can I say about this?

01:25:33.921 --> 01:25:35.714
[laughs] It's not hard.

01:25:35.798 --> 01:25:39.592
The only thing that's hard is,
you know, that it's emotional.

01:25:39.677 --> 01:25:43.388
That it's difficult to hear
women talk about their choice

01:25:43.471 --> 01:25:44.890
getting ripped away from them.

01:25:44.973 --> 01:25:46.767
That is hard
to hear people talk about that.

01:25:46.850 --> 01:25:48.351
I mean, autonomy, whatever.

01:25:48.435 --> 01:25:49.853
Everything else aside,
autonomy is important.

01:25:49.937 --> 01:25:51.689
And, you know,
so much of the story of women

01:25:51.772 --> 01:25:53.648
in this country is that
they don't have autonomy.

01:25:53.732 --> 01:25:54.942
They don't have choice.
They don't...

01:25:55.025 --> 01:25:56.359
they're silenced.

01:25:58.320 --> 01:26:01.281
Flynn. What's up?

01:26:06.661 --> 01:26:09.622
All right. Do we have the full
crew? Where are we numerically?

01:26:09.707 --> 01:26:12.751
[ringtone chiming]

01:26:12.835 --> 01:26:16.046
We're gonna start today's
meeting with awesome news,

01:26:16.129 --> 01:26:19.800
which is that we have
an editor-in-chief.

01:26:19.883 --> 01:26:22.803
Um, we have hired

01:26:22.886 --> 01:26:26.598
the amazing Julia Chan.

01:26:26.681 --> 01:26:28.892
It feels like there
is real momentum.

01:26:28.976 --> 01:26:31.311
We see traffic picking up,
increasing interest,

01:26:31.394 --> 01:26:33.271
journalism that's really,
really hitting its mark

01:26:33.355 --> 01:26:34.356
and its stride.

01:26:36.608 --> 01:26:39.694
I'm Julia B. Chan.
I am the editor-in-chief.

01:26:39.778 --> 01:26:43.115
I was previously a managing
editor at KQED in San Francisco,

01:26:43.198 --> 01:26:44.532
which is where I'm based.

01:26:44.616 --> 01:26:48.871
I am Fatima Hassabi,
Chief Financial Officer.

01:26:48.954 --> 01:26:50.789
I have to be
super transparent

01:26:50.873 --> 01:26:52.290
that it wasn't, you know,
the leadership

01:26:52.374 --> 01:26:53.792
coming together and saying,
"Oh, I think

01:26:53.876 --> 01:26:56.169
we should have a
Chief People Officer."

01:26:56.253 --> 01:26:58.213
It came
from the people themselves.

01:26:58.296 --> 01:27:00.799
Fifty-six percent of our staff

01:27:00.883 --> 01:27:03.010
are non-white
or multiracial overall.

01:27:03.093 --> 01:27:07.180
Thirteen percent of our folks
are folks with disabilities

01:27:07.264 --> 01:27:11.143
and ten percent of our staff
now identify

01:27:11.226 --> 01:27:12.602
as non-binary.

01:27:12.685 --> 01:27:14.729
Joining me now,
Barbara Rodriguez,

01:27:14.813 --> 01:27:16.564
State House reporter
for The 19th*.

01:27:16.648 --> 01:27:18.483
Barbara, I wanna
start with you because I read,

01:27:18.566 --> 01:27:21.194
uh, your reporting on this issue
and it was quite eye-opening.

01:27:21.278 --> 01:27:22.905
[Woman]
When I say "Black voters,"

01:27:22.988 --> 01:27:24.114
you say "matter."

01:27:24.197 --> 01:27:25.448
- Black voters.
- [Crowd] Matter.

01:27:25.532 --> 01:27:26.825
Black voters.

01:27:26.909 --> 01:27:28.451
- [Crowd] Matter.
- I am the only

01:27:28.535 --> 01:27:32.080
female Black elected official
in both houses.

01:27:32.164 --> 01:27:33.874
I will not be hushed.

01:27:33.957 --> 01:27:37.127
[protestor speaking]

01:27:37.210 --> 01:27:39.629
Nadra Nittle, education
reporter for The 19th*,

01:27:39.712 --> 01:27:42.174
joins me to discuss
how new restrictions on

01:27:42.257 --> 01:27:46.303
diversity education in some
states may play out.

01:27:46.386 --> 01:27:48.013
[Protestors]
Trans lives matter.

01:27:48.096 --> 01:27:49.807
Trans lives matter.

01:27:49.890 --> 01:27:51.266
- [Protestor speaking]
- [Kate] Yeah.

01:27:51.349 --> 01:27:53.310
- Lovely...
- Oh, cool.

01:28:11.078 --> 01:28:13.788
Hi, Congresswoman DeLauro.
How are you? It's Chabeli.

01:28:13.872 --> 01:28:16.834
[Congresswoman Delauro
speaking over phone]

01:28:23.506 --> 01:28:25.050
Yeah.

01:28:25.133 --> 01:28:27.135
♪♪

01:28:29.346 --> 01:28:30.848
♪♪

01:28:30.931 --> 01:28:34.101
[Kate]
This is unreal. Like...

01:28:34.184 --> 01:28:38.605
if this actually goes through
as it is written,

01:28:38.688 --> 01:28:43.443
it's all bets off for any civil
rights law from here on out.

01:28:43.526 --> 01:28:45.487
Are you on deadline
on something on this?

01:28:45.570 --> 01:28:49.867
[Orion R speaking over phone]

01:28:49.950 --> 01:28:53.370
We should tag team
on a story about

01:28:53.453 --> 01:28:56.539
what this will mean
for trans men.

01:28:56.623 --> 01:29:00.127
[Orion R speaking over phone]

01:29:00.585 --> 01:29:02.504
I know. No one else
is gonna do that story.

01:29:02.629 --> 01:29:05.382
Um, but it... but it really
is like that is,

01:29:05.465 --> 01:29:07.384
um, that will kill people.

01:29:07.467 --> 01:29:09.636
[Orion R] Thank you
for brainstorming on this.

01:29:09.719 --> 01:29:11.429
We can do this.
We're doing it.

01:29:11.513 --> 01:29:14.307
Yeah. Okay. Take care of
yourself, please. I love you.

01:29:14.391 --> 01:29:15.683
[Orion R]
You too. Love you too.

01:29:15.767 --> 01:29:17.644
Okay, bye.

01:29:17.727 --> 01:29:19.146
[Orion R]
Bye.

01:29:20.522 --> 01:29:22.649
[Kate] I'm working on a story
that looks at

01:29:22.732 --> 01:29:24.359
what this leaked opinion

01:29:24.442 --> 01:29:26.444
from the Supreme Court

01:29:26.528 --> 01:29:30.115
on the possible end of Roe

01:29:30.198 --> 01:29:33.285
could mean
for other civil rights law.

01:29:33.368 --> 01:29:37.539
Um, a couple
of the justices have...

01:29:37.622 --> 01:29:41.584
sort of, um, expressed
an interest in overturning...

01:29:43.003 --> 01:29:44.671
um, marriage equality

01:29:44.754 --> 01:29:47.465
or kicking it back
to the states.

01:29:47.549 --> 01:29:52.095
And, uh, yeah, that's, uh,

01:29:52.179 --> 01:29:54.181
that can be up for grabs also.

01:29:54.264 --> 01:29:56.683
Uh, we are in a moment
where trans rights

01:29:56.766 --> 01:29:58.435
are really under attack.

01:29:58.518 --> 01:30:02.480
Um, so the climate there
is ripe.

01:30:04.482 --> 01:30:06.151
♪♪

01:30:06.234 --> 01:30:07.652
♪♪

01:30:07.735 --> 01:30:10.738
[indistinct chatter]

01:30:29.049 --> 01:30:30.383
[Chabeli] You know, it must be
really difficult for someone

01:30:30.467 --> 01:30:32.177
who doesn't want this.

01:30:32.260 --> 01:30:33.886
It's really difficult for me
and I...

01:30:33.971 --> 01:30:36.098
we deeply, deeply
wanted this pregnancy.

01:30:36.181 --> 01:30:39.267
Um, so imagine somebody

01:30:39.351 --> 01:30:41.103
who doesn't want to go
through this at all,

01:30:41.186 --> 01:30:43.021
who this is not in their plan,
doesn't have any support,

01:30:43.105 --> 01:30:44.314
doesn't have... I mean,

01:30:44.397 --> 01:30:45.940
and so many things
can go wrong

01:30:46.024 --> 01:30:47.109
and there's so many
complications,

01:30:47.192 --> 01:30:49.152
and there's so many reasons

01:30:49.236 --> 01:30:51.529
why someone would not
wanna carry a pregnancy.

01:30:51.613 --> 01:30:52.864
It's just...

01:30:55.075 --> 01:30:58.661
my entire email is this
for the past couple of months,

01:30:58.745 --> 01:31:00.538
like we have not stopped
covering it.

01:31:00.622 --> 01:31:03.166
So, that is why we can get all
these calls in with clinics

01:31:03.250 --> 01:31:06.794
because they already know us,
um, and they trust us.

01:31:06.878 --> 01:31:08.880
[Woman] Okay, I have Dr. Tossi
and Chabeli

01:31:08.963 --> 01:31:11.216
from The 19th* News
both on the line.

01:31:11.299 --> 01:31:13.260
[Chabeli] Hi Dr. Tossi,
how are you?

01:31:20.725 --> 01:31:25.063
[Emily] This is in many ways
the story of my lifetime

01:31:25.147 --> 01:31:27.607
and I'm profoundly grateful
that I work

01:31:27.690 --> 01:31:30.235
in a newsroom that was
in many ways

01:31:30.318 --> 01:31:32.779
prepared for this moment,
um, that saw it coming,

01:31:32.862 --> 01:31:34.489
and that is doing probably

01:31:34.572 --> 01:31:37.409
among the most important
journalism in the country.

01:31:37.492 --> 01:31:41.663
I think we're doing that,
um, with empathy and with heart.

01:31:41.746 --> 01:31:45.208
Hi, baby.

01:31:45.292 --> 01:31:49.962
Um, and I'm also doing this work

01:31:50.047 --> 01:31:53.550
as the mother of a little girl

01:31:53.633 --> 01:31:55.802
growing up in the state
of Texas.

01:31:58.805 --> 01:32:00.640
As hard as this day was,
it feels,

01:32:00.723 --> 01:32:02.392
um, in some ways validating

01:32:02.475 --> 01:32:07.439
or like prescient that
this newsroom was necessary.

01:32:14.112 --> 01:32:15.613
[Amanda] Okay,
what's this one? 2016?

01:32:15.697 --> 01:32:18.032
[Woman]
2316.

01:32:18.116 --> 01:32:20.618
[Emily] Well, I'll start
personally

01:32:20.702 --> 01:32:21.744
and we can just go from there.

01:32:21.828 --> 01:32:23.871
You know, three years ago

01:32:23.955 --> 01:32:25.915
we had basically $20,000
in the bank

01:32:25.998 --> 01:32:28.918
and today we've raised
over $35 million.

01:32:29.001 --> 01:32:31.171
We had five employees.

01:32:31.254 --> 01:32:32.922
Today we have over 50.

01:32:33.005 --> 01:32:35.842
One thing that I've been
exploring a lot with Amanda

01:32:35.925 --> 01:32:38.303
and with many of you
is what power sharing looks like

01:32:38.386 --> 01:32:41.639
in an organization and can look
like in an organization

01:32:41.723 --> 01:32:43.808
and how we can lead
more effectively

01:32:43.891 --> 01:32:45.685
when there are more voices

01:32:45.768 --> 01:32:47.729
and more equity, um,
across an organization.

01:32:47.812 --> 01:32:50.315
And that includes at the very
top of an organization.

01:32:50.398 --> 01:32:54.527
Um, so starting like basically
right now, uh,

01:32:54.611 --> 01:32:57.071
Amanda and I will be
full co-equals

01:32:57.155 --> 01:32:58.865
in the leadership structure.

01:32:58.948 --> 01:33:00.950
This is what the work
looks like.

01:33:01.033 --> 01:33:03.161
I mean, we talk about
what we want The 19th*

01:33:03.245 --> 01:33:07.624
to be kind of outward-facing,
but there is work internally

01:33:07.707 --> 01:33:09.167
that we have been doing

01:33:09.251 --> 01:33:11.711
and the fruits of that
are also happening.

01:33:11.794 --> 01:33:15.047
Like that is what
is going to be different.

01:33:15.132 --> 01:33:17.509
And that is the paradigm shift.

01:33:17.592 --> 01:33:21.221
Optically, we started
The 19th* as equals.

01:33:21.304 --> 01:33:23.306
I never felt like an equal.

01:33:23.390 --> 01:33:27.810
Um, and that was a big issue
for us to work through.

01:33:27.894 --> 01:33:30.480
If we're trying to disrupt
the news industry

01:33:30.563 --> 01:33:32.899
such that we're really
centering the communities

01:33:32.982 --> 01:33:34.066
that we're trying to serve,

01:33:34.901 --> 01:33:36.736
that also means seeding
the narrative to them.

01:33:36.819 --> 01:33:39.197
We don't wanna be replicating
yet another news organization

01:33:39.281 --> 01:33:42.742
where everything is in the image
and likeness of, um,

01:33:42.825 --> 01:33:45.203
you know, the CEO.

01:33:45.287 --> 01:33:47.079
Typically it's the white
male CEO.

01:33:47.164 --> 01:33:50.167
In this case, it would've
been the white female CEO.

01:33:50.250 --> 01:33:52.169
[News anchor]
Lay out for me, Errin,

01:33:52.252 --> 01:33:54.003
what the President and Vice
President tried to do today.

01:33:54.086 --> 01:33:56.173
Everybody's gonna have a chance
to be on that proverbial bridge

01:33:56.256 --> 01:33:59.176
tomorrow and make a decision
about which side of history,

01:33:59.259 --> 01:34:01.219
which side of our democracy,
they want to be on.

01:34:01.303 --> 01:34:05.515
- [cheering]
- [indistinct chatter]

01:34:05.598 --> 01:34:06.683
♪♪

01:34:08.810 --> 01:34:10.353
♪♪

01:34:10.437 --> 01:34:12.063
This is the first time
the bulk of our team

01:34:12.146 --> 01:34:13.315
has ever met in person.

01:34:13.398 --> 01:34:16.526
[indistinct chatter]

01:34:19.696 --> 01:34:22.824
[laughter]

01:34:22.907 --> 01:34:24.367
[Woman]
Uh, sure.

01:34:26.494 --> 01:34:29.581
[no audible dialogue]

01:34:44.387 --> 01:34:46.556
[gasps]

01:34:49.016 --> 01:34:50.435
And you probably like... you
probably rubbed your face in it.

01:34:50.518 --> 01:34:52.645
[Woman]
Oh, my God!

01:34:52.729 --> 01:34:54.731
I took a picture of it and I was
like, wait, I'll take it with me

01:34:54.814 --> 01:34:56.733
and I'll show it to everybody.

01:34:56.816 --> 01:34:59.569
Thank you. I love it. I love it.

01:34:59.652 --> 01:35:03.656
It has been two and a half years
to get to this place

01:35:03.740 --> 01:35:06.659
where we can actually meet
and greet

01:35:06.743 --> 01:35:08.620
and connect in real life.

01:35:10.204 --> 01:35:12.374
- I love you guys.
- Love you too.

01:35:12.457 --> 01:35:14.000
Awkward sauce. Hello.

01:35:14.083 --> 01:35:17.128
Awkward my ass.
I love you guys.

01:35:17.211 --> 01:35:18.713
I'm not ashamed.
I love this woman.

01:35:18.796 --> 01:35:20.089
- Oh, my God.
- [laughs]

01:35:20.172 --> 01:35:22.049
I love this woman.
Believe it.

01:35:22.133 --> 01:35:23.885
We love you, baby.

01:35:23.968 --> 01:35:25.177
[sighs]

01:35:25.262 --> 01:35:26.763
[Heather]
So what's next?

01:35:26.846 --> 01:35:27.930
Like, how are you gonna
keep this going?

01:35:28.014 --> 01:35:29.266
And especially in terms of...

01:35:29.349 --> 01:35:30.600
Heather, we just wrapped this.

01:35:30.683 --> 01:35:33.353
Who the hell knows, Heather.

01:35:33.436 --> 01:35:35.480
♪♪

01:35:43.029 --> 01:35:45.448
[News reporter] Errin Haines,
editor-at-large of The 19th*.

01:35:45.532 --> 01:35:47.325
If you don't know
about The 19th*, you should.

01:35:50.537 --> 01:35:51.996
[News reporter]
Chabeli, you know

01:35:52.079 --> 01:35:53.665
whenever something like this
comes out,

01:35:53.748 --> 01:35:56.918
a policy plan
that specifically targets women,

01:35:57.001 --> 01:35:59.504
I head right over
to your Twitter feed

01:35:59.587 --> 01:36:01.213
so that you will break
it all down for me.

01:36:05.718 --> 01:36:09.681
The same reasons why women
were not allowed to vote,

01:36:09.764 --> 01:36:11.808
you know, are the same reasons
why LGBTQ people have been

01:36:11.891 --> 01:36:14.852
discriminated against, which
is the constraints of gender.

01:36:42.004 --> 01:36:44.841
[Emily] Y'all,
this is big, big news.

01:36:44.924 --> 01:36:46.634
A couple of funders
of The 19th*

01:36:46.718 --> 01:36:48.428
watched Errin Haines interview

01:36:48.511 --> 01:36:51.348
Nikole Hannah-Jones and said,
"We were so inspired.

01:36:51.431 --> 01:36:53.600
Would you all consider
letting us fund

01:36:53.683 --> 01:36:56.353
this massive 19th*
fellowship program

01:36:56.436 --> 01:36:58.104
for graduates of historically
Black colleges

01:36:58.187 --> 01:36:59.105
and universities?"

01:36:59.188 --> 01:37:01.315
[cheering]

01:37:28.635 --> 01:37:29.886
When I came back
in 2020

01:37:29.969 --> 01:37:31.554
to finish my degree
at Howard,

01:37:31.638 --> 01:37:33.014
um, I had an assignment

01:37:33.097 --> 01:37:34.265
and it was to cover the,

01:37:34.348 --> 01:37:35.307
um, interview that

01:37:35.392 --> 01:37:36.601
Errin Haines did with,

01:37:36.684 --> 01:37:39.145
uh, then VP candidate
Kamala Harris.

01:37:39.228 --> 01:37:40.688
When, uh,
the Supreme Court

01:37:40.772 --> 01:37:42.148
was giving the ruling

01:37:42.231 --> 01:37:43.441
on Roe versus Wade.

01:37:43.525 --> 01:37:44.651
I really appreciated,

01:37:44.734 --> 01:37:46.027
uh, that reporting.

01:37:46.110 --> 01:37:47.695
It really just gave me
a chance to let me know

01:37:47.779 --> 01:37:49.363
that I could
do this and that

01:37:49.447 --> 01:37:50.907
the things that
I want to do

01:37:50.990 --> 01:37:52.241
and the things that
I want to change,

01:37:52.324 --> 01:37:53.826
the things I want
to implement,

01:37:53.910 --> 01:37:55.495
are very much so
possible to do, um,

01:37:55.578 --> 01:37:56.871
long as you have
the right people

01:37:56.954 --> 01:37:58.956
around you
encouraging you.

01:37:59.040 --> 01:38:01.292
And that's
this team. [laughs]

01:38:01.375 --> 01:38:03.420
♪♪

01:38:09.175 --> 01:38:12.178
[singers vocalizing]

01:38:50.174 --> 01:38:52.176
♪♪