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We are Muslims but we don't know

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how do we spend our lives,
what should we do?

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At most we are just taught

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that we should put on a scarf.
Our hair should not be visible.

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We are confined, veiled within
four walls of our homes.

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We should serve our husbands,

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should give birth to children,
attend to all chores of the house

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and then listen that
we do not do anything.

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What else we do?

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Those who teach us the religion,
they only tell this much about it.

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We are merely told about our duty.

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We are never told that Allah
has also given us some rights.

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But who is able to
exercise their rights most?

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Who does it?

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Husband...

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So men have rights,
and women have duties

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She will be an ideal women...

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when she stays at home
like a obedient wife

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dancing to the
tune of her husband,

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doing whatever he says,
going where he permits,

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She can't dress as she wishes,

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she can't make her hair as she wishes.

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So, how does she see herself?

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her husband's eyes,

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never sees herself through
her own eyes.

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Anything more?

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Where are you?

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Yes, what are you saying?

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Uncle helps you a lot, isn't it?

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Now that he stays home...

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When he had office, he couldn't

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but now that he is home.

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He kneads dough because of
my spondylitis,

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I can't do it because of my back...

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This is swollen,
so I feel giddy these days.

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It pains

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But if I work too much

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my hands and shoulders gets
swollen and I can't move my neck.

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An ailment has affected him too much...

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he feels down

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His face got affected

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He was quite smart and handsome.

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When I was in service

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then Safia

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used to keep my clothes ironed.

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Now that I have nothing to do
after the retirement

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So whatever is to be done, I do it

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I also iron her clothes.

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She has done so much for me...

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II was posted in Sihor,
37 kms from here

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I used to go there

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she would get up at 4 am
to prepare my tiffin.

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She would ensure I have breakfast...

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I used to leave at 5:15 am

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And at night she used to iron
my clothes and keep ready.

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Even you get angry on the pranks, Riyaz...

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Riyaz was a poet from Awadhi

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Even you get angry on the pranks, Riyaz...

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One beautiful girl is all you need
to charm you

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Here also it's a portrayal
of Masculinity... I am a Man...

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Beautiful girls should charm us…
even in poetry

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What if a woman says the same thing...
That I need men to adore me…

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She would be considered of loose character

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It has been put in our head.

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when you entered, you were happy

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The other girl was also looking happy

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Then I asked her the reason

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It's because when I tried
to explain her, she said

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All the Qazis, Maulanas said that she became Haram
for her husband, Talaq has happened

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Meanwhile when Saddam's phone came
I went there. And when I entered in,

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he said I should tell him
the right way for the Talaq.

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So I told him.

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Coincidently I had the translation
of verses with me.

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I told him to take that and study it properly.

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The victims of practice of Triple Talaq
from Madhya Pradesh's

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Khargaon, Khandwa, Indore, Devas,
Devas, Haldwani, Barwani,

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Satna and Bhopal's women,

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have demanded banning of Talaq.

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They want that one sided Talaq
custom should be lawfully banned.

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Which is non-Quranic and non-Islamic.

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Whereas the Talaq's process
goes on for three months

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the Talaq should be
completed in three months.

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Before the Talaq takes place

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it should be ensured that
whatever rights the girl has,

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the rights she is entitled to even after the
Talaq as mentioned in Quran,

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she should get those rights,
then the Talaq should take place.

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In the meanwhile efforts should be
made to explain the process

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There should be witnesses

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who will advise them to rethink

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One day I called him,

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I said, in every house there
are some quarrels, take me home.

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I said, 'what do you want?'

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He replied, 'I am giving you Talaq'.
He said Talaq thrice and hung up.

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In the middle of the street
he shouted Talaq.

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You were there?
-No I wasn't there.

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By the time I hid my children
and came, the decision was made.

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Everyone was saying...

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that she has been divorced.

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I just stood in silence

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In this pink paper you will find the verses

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from Quran which talk about Talaq.

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Firstly, husband and wife should
try to resolve amicably

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If the matter is not resolved

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then two people from each side

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should try to make them understand.

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Even if after three months,

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they can't hold on to Allah's principles

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then Talaq would actually take place.

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So when Allah has given
three months' period

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then our Scholars, our Mufti, our Qazi,

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who are they to say that man can divorce
only by uttering Talaq thrice?

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When my daughter was taken to
her in-laws place,

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after some days they took her to get
injected as she was pregnant.

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And there, they injected her with poison.

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And after that...
when it started affecting,

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they gave her a mobile...

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And asked,
'Who do you want to speak to, Saba?'

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So my daughter spoke to her brother,
my elder son.

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While speaking, the mobile slipped
from her hand...

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And she too fell down...

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then her husband hung her with a noose.

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And after that, all the family members...

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grabbed both her arms,

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including her brother-in-laws...
they beat her so badly...

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Even after that my daughter was alive...

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After that two of them pulled her
and slashed her neck.

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Sister, you are the eyewitness.

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Her entire neck was slashed.

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And after that my daughter died...

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Even then they gave her electric shock.

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People live happily in Madina

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Faith keeps shinning all the times in Madina

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O seekers of heaven

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At least go sometimes and see

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Everything you seek in heaven
are present in Madina

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Are you the full moon
or the glitter of sunlight

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Whatever you are, I swear,
you are matchless

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Are you the full moon...

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Now whatever had to happen,
has happened...

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But whatever time I am left with,
at least with your smile

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I too will smile.

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Neither the food is real nor is the wine

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Even compassions are adulterated Sir

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Grocers would mix horse's
droppings in coriander powder

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The day is not far
when we would neigh

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All Muslim women want
Triple Talaq be banned

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and Muslim Personal Law be improved.

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As we remained outside the scope of law

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We have suffered a lot...

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Whichever woman has been given Triple Talaq

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She is someone's daughter...

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someone's sister, someone's mother...

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So it is not only women who are suffering,

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but also families and children.

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So entire society is suffering...

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Times are changing...

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Now woman can read Quran themselves.

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They can read the translation of Quran...

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She knows the rights that Quran promises...

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She can also understand that
her rights are being breached...

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by male dominated religious preachers

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So the women are asking...

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if Allah has not discriminated against them

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then who are religious
preachers to do it?

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Divorced by saying Talaq thrice,
did it while sleeping,

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did it while drunk,
gave in writing,

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Now as our technology is developing,

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through WhatsApp, Facebook, e-mail,

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the Talaq is given...

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It is ruining the lives of women.

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Because Islam doesn't permit
such kind of Talaq.

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But one has to give
three months and thirteen days

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Not thirteen days, three months
notice to be given for Talaq.

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Do you have any reference of
Hadis or Quran?

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No! I will tell you
you can get it checked

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Listen, don't argue...
-Listen, listen.

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you are in a press conference,
there are witnesses

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You give evidence.
-I am doing that.

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Give your reference from Hadis and Quran.
-I am giving you...

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You are representing the Muslim community

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You can only refer to two things,
nothing else would work...

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Not even the Constitutional reference.

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No reference other than
Quran and Hadis...

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Just a minute, now you listen to me.
- Refer Quran and Hadis

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and quote from Quran's verses...
- Shall I quote?

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Note it...
You note it down...

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The Talaq-e-Ahsan we are talking about...

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That Talaq should be done in
the way of Talaq-e-Ahsan

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where there is three months' time,

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and the Iddat you are speaking of,
it is three months...

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process... You listen.
- You give the reference.

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You listen to me completely.
- Cite.

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Listen to me fully.
- I can't accept what you say.

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First cite and speak...
- You listen…

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At least listen to me.

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So the Talaq-e-Ahsan is there
in Chapter number 2, Surah Baqarah.

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Its verse number 229.

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At-Talaq o Marratan

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If you say I will tell you in Arabic too.

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In Surah Baqarah, verse number?
-229.

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Surah Nisa's chapter number 4.

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Surah Nisa, its verse number 35

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First time in independent India

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Muslim women are duly
training themselves to become Qazi.

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So it's not that women have
not become Qazi, but...

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The training is given by
registered organisation,

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Even the syllabus is not decided
by any Maulana or Mufty.

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We have prepared ourselves...

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So how the rituals are practiced
in other countries...

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We should have all the knowledge...

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So that if someone challenges,
we can answer.

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Suppose in Pakistan...

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In India Talaq is given instantly

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But to get Talaq in Pakistan...

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you have to apply
two-three months in advance...

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So we can give that example...

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that we both practice Islam...
But see the difference...

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Where the truth is on the lips,
where the truth is in the hearts

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We are the people of that country

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We are the people of a country where
river Ganges flows

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What rights are you talking about?

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I can't understand...

00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:14.720
what are you saying?

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Why, where are you from?
- From here only.

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So you don't know?

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Our country... our country

00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:25.079
is a democratic country.

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Our country has a constitution.

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And that constitution give you lots of rights.

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We have many fundamental rights

00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:34.640
which perhaps you are not aware...

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But our constitution ensures many rights...

00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:39.240
I will tell you...

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Our constitution has given us equal rights.
Look...

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I have the right to live in
any village in India.

00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:50.720
... to live in any state in India.

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You cannot evict me in the name of Bihar...

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You can't evict me in the name of Kashmir.

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You can't evict me in the name of Bengal.

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Everyone stood together
be it king or the slaves

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There was no king or slave anymore...

00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:08.400
Everybody is equal in this country.

00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.680
Nobody is higher or lower,
there is no untouchability.

00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:13.440
Everybody is equal.

00:20:13.559 --> 00:20:15.119
Justice Dharmadhikari said,

00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.839
that you prove as to why the court
has to intervene in this?

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This is a matter of faith,
what can we do about it.

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Then our argument is that religious
personal law is a law.

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And when you make something a law

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then Supreme Court can intervene.

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Nowhere in the Quranic verses does it state that
the woman should not pursue higher learning

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In the 1st verse of Quran, there is a word
called 'Iqra' which means read

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And it does not restrict learning to only men;
it is meant for all...

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including woman...

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Do you offer Namaz?

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that's not right

00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:56.160
that's not right at all

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You should.

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Along with all your work
you should find time to offer Namaz.

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It was something I heard that
a Fatwa will be issued against me...

00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:56.039
that I will be expelled from Islam.

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Firstly, who are they to expel
anyone from Islam?

00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:03.359
It is a matter between me
and my Allah...

00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:06.680
Have they taken it upon themselves to
decide who'll be in Islam or not?

00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:09.960
Secondly, I am not doing anything wrong.

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I am following Quran's path.

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So where am I wrong?

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I am not at all wrong.
So I don't consider at all

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that I am not making any mistake
to be afraid that...

00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:23.519
Fatwa will be issued against me
and I will be expelled from Islam.

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Merely their saying or issuing
a Fatwa will make no difference.

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I am Muslim, I love Allah,

00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:32.559
I fear Allah

00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:35.599
and I am following Allah's path...

00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:37.599
So I am Muslim.

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Greetings to everyone...

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But before we start,
shall we introduce ourselves?

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But before we start,
shall we introduce ourselves?

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and where you are from?
what you do?

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Then we can start our discussion.

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Where do we begin?

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Greetings, my name is Farheen,
and I studied till 9th grade.

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-And I live in Chataipuri.

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Now you tell.

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Yes, go ahead...

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Tell us your name...
My name is...

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Speak loudly. First condition
is to speak loudly...

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Speak loudly and see...

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speaking so softly that we can't understand...

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we also want you to get rid of
the inhibitions, the shyness...

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So that we have the strength
to talk to people.

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Now whatever you will say,
say loudly...

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All right? Now tell me your name.
-My name is Rani.

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Yes. So, Rani where do you stay,
what do you do?

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I live in Itwara.
I've come here to learn tailoring.

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And what do you do?
-I work at home.

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Ok, fine.

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And you dear, at the back?
-My name is Zoya.

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What do you do, Zoya?

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Nothing.
-Do nothing?

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I do tailoring.

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What about education?
-No.

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Not even first grade?
-No I did...

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Then tell us about your education?

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Eighth standard.

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You dropped out after eighth grade?
-Yes.

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And now?

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Now I am learning tailoring.

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Learning tailoring.

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So the purpose of gathering here,
is to talk about such things...

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so that you know about everything.

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You should be able to discuss frankly...

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Isn't it?

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The biggest issue is
that Quran is written in Arabic.

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Because of that nobody understands
the meaning.

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So whatever problem she faces...

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Whether it is about marriage,
Talaq or the property,

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Then they just go to Qazi or Mufti...

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Because it is considered that
only they know Islam.

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They are the only ones who know
and nobody else.

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They go to him and if
they misguide them,

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show them the wrong way,

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but people think they are right.

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So we make women aware,

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and what rights they have in Islam...

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Our Quran speaks of Equality,
Justice, Mercy, and Wisdom.

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So our Constitution and our Quran
both have the same values.

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So we want that our law is made
as per Quran...

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So it is obvious that the
country in which we are living

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its Parliament will pass that bill.

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So we have given a letter
to the Prime Minister

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that the draft on this matter
should be considered.

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that our laws should also be codified

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and we should get the same benefits
that our religion provides us.

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So that people do not question,
it is best to slap charges of cow smuggling

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so that religious beliefs can be used as a shield...

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since 2010 at least 85 mob lynching cases
have been reported...

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of these 98% cases have happened post 2014...

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before this two incidents were reported
in 2012 and 2013 respectively...

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56% victims of these attacks were Muslims...
and 88% Muslims have died because of this...

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all the people who have been killed
in 2018 were Muslims...

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If the Muslim Personal Law Board
is interfering the most,

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and is representing the Muslims,
being their spokesperson,

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then why isn't it doing it
in other things too?

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The things in which Muslims
are backward.

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Like the Sachchar Committee report
also revealed.

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whether it is education,
health or the jobs,

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Government jobs,
IAS, IPS officer's place,

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Muslims are nowhere...

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There is no representation...

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So what for are you are representing Muslims?

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The issues that we have today,
concerned with Muslims...

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Are issues of unemployment, poverty...

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The whole crowd that is gathered here,
it is not for those issues,

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Please raise your hands and declare

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that you are here to defend
the Shariya law of Islam

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It's a matter of respecting women

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All India Muslim Personal Law Board
is running this campaign to respect women,

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To respect our Indian Nation

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If someone says Talaq thrice,
doesn’t mean divorce is finalised

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The person has to look into your eyes,
and say Talaq thrice with conviction

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Only then Talaq is final...
No one can change it...

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A man is not that mad to just say Talaq thrice,
there must be some reason

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In other religion also,
they have to go through a law

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The same thing is happening there,
why are you recording us then?

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Please do what they are saying...

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Better if you want any answer,
they are saying the same thing

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You can get the answers from them
instead of asking the ladies over here

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We are getting disturbed here...
Please move out

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It is not about any problem, we have come over
to listen, we are listening

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What's the difference between
asking a man and asking a lady?

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No no, it is not that women are banned...
We are just saying record them...

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Excuse me, this is a segregated place,
please move out

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We were not given jobs but we kept quiet

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we didn’t get food but we kept quiet

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There was injustice done on us but we kept quiet

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If you are interfering with Sharia,
then listen

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We will cut those hands which will
interfere with our holy Quran

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Hey, sit back.

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just sit back.

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Ammi....
-No, no, listen... ?

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She calls you Ammi?

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Since childhood she calls me that,
I liked that as a mother...

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No, that's fine.
But why the word 'Ammi'?

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Like they say Mamma, Maa, Mummy
they say...

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No, no. It's from the very begining.

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- Because I called my mother Ammi.

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So it remained Ammi.

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All my children call me Amma.

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We call Ammi at our place.
-I like to called Amma the best.

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The affection in it is not there in any other
word. -Ammi is also the same.

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My children call me Ammi.
-In my place Urdu is more prevalent.

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So we call a mother Ammi
at our place.

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My children call me Ammi.

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Even my grandchildren, call us Amma and Abba.

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Thank god at least it's not English.

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It sounds so fake calling
Mummy, Mamma etc.

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Why not say what's in our culture.

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Though Urdu is called
language of Muslims

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but it is not Muslim's language.

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This too is a mixture.
Devnagari...

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All the language combined together
Urdu language is formed.

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A poet has said it for the Urdu...

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Whenever there is attack on Urdu
in that context...

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Whenever there is attack on Urdu
in that context...

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Whenever there is attack on Urdu in that context...
they think Urdu is Muslim.

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One has to claim ‘mehr’ during the wedding...

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this is a right that the Allah has bestowed on us...

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that women are entitled to ‘mehr’...
it is their property...

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Allah has ensured her
financial security this way...

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There has to be two adult witnesses...

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Two adult witnesses?

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Yes... You didn't get that?

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There has to be two adult witnesses
only then will the marriage be valid

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If a girl is Muslim and the boy is non-Muslim,
what would you advise?

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- It will be in Special Marriage Act.

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There is Special Marriage Act...

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So it will fall under
Special Marriage Act.

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It means marriage can only be
under that act.

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If someone already has a child
from previous marriage,

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the spouse needs to consent that they agree to
marry the person and take on the children.

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It is the Qazi's responsibility
to explain and ensure this

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If there is a disease that might affect
their married lives...

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or if any woman is unable to bear child and
asks her husband to marry someone else...

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it means she is consenting to the
second marriage...

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but if she doesn’t consent to you getting married
again, the marriage won't be valid.

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You consent to this?
Are you ready for this?

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Declare I consent to my marriage
according to my parents wish

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If my parents agree,
I am ready...

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But your consent is important...

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Allah has ensured that
you have the freedom to choose...

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if you consent, you can marry or you can clearly
state that you do not consent...

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Do you consent to this?

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Qazi Safia Akhtar...

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Give her a big hand!

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See how my hair looked...

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When I was in my M. A. final year

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Uncle looked handsome.

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Yeah...
His picture is good mine is very bad.

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You too are looking good.

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This is my degree convocation picture.

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I got this award when
I was in M. A. final...

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For what did you get the award?

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it was a program held for
Ghalib's centenary.

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You must have heard about Ghalib...

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So a competition was held, debate,
parody, essays on Ghalib.

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I got the first prize for parody.

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So is it the one where both of you had...
-Yes, yes.

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Where we met.

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Actually he had won.

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But the reason for them winning was

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I don't know why...
I dreamt at night,

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So I dreamt that my competitor
would give last word on "Shai".

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So I told my professor about my dream

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and we found only one couplet

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in the entire book of Ghalib
that starts with "shai".

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Normally if we listen to a
couplet we remember it.

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But that day we sat down
and mugged it up.

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And we forgot that couplet that day.

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And they did exactly that...

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We forgot the couplet,
they won...

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But a person had come there...
Who was he from All India Radio?

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He was a director of All India Radio
or something...

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But he had praised us saying

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that you recited good standard couplets.

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What praises? As required
we recited Ghalib's couplets.

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However, our couplets were
quite hifi.

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Because in those days he was
in B. A. final and I was in M. A. final.

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Although I gave him a earful that day.
I told my Amma...

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That boy was so cheeky

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he was pointing towards me
and teasing.

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In order to make me nervous,
he was gesticulating towards me

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he was reciting couplets.
I had really abused him that day.

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So I told her about it...

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She had no clue that she would have to
spend her entire life with me!

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He called my mother and said,

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you better bring her to me,
or I will leave her...

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So she said don't scare me,
talk to her...

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Then I asked, what are you saying?

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He said, you have been away for long,
come back tomorrow.

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He called on Wednesday...

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So I said I can't come today.

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I asked him to come and take me.

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He refused and asked me to come alone.

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Then I insisted.
He said, so you will not come?

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I said, I will come day after
tomorrow and hung up...

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How is it a valid Talaq?

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Qazis say, saying Talaq thrice
finalises divorce

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I have told her many times
that I have given you Talaq.

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Now this is my faith,
even if I am forced to sacrifice my life...

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I shall still stand firm on it.
Because I've to face Islam.

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Have to face Khuda.

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As it is I have committed a sin
by giving a Talaq.

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Now I cannot commit another sin
by staying with her

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Even touching her has become sin for me.

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People make mistakes.
No one is perfect.

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If there is no fault a person would
not be a human he would be an angel.

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Remove this thing from your mind

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that you have given her Talaq
on phone so it is final. - No.

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You see, I won't go against Islam.

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Where is it written in Islam, tell us?

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No, in my case I have said
Talaq thrice so... -No.

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No this is not the way. Not at all.
-I will not go against Islam...

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Now you will see, we have filed
a petition in the Supreme Court,

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Supreme Court is also going to
give the judgement that

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a Talaq given on phone
will not be considered a Talaq.

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What is written there?

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Supreme Court said on Thursday
that about the issue of Triple Talaq,

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the petition which are filed
hearing will be held by large bench

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from the month of May.

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Court said, it will consider all the
aspects of the Triple Talaq.

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Court insisted that this matter is very
serious and we must hear it.

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During the hearing, Central Government
put forward some question to the court.

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Apart from Central Government
few other sides also

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raised some questions too, on which

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court asked all the concerned
sides that by 30th March

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they should file their affidavits
before the Attorney General.

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When the matter arose that
if Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind on internet...

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I will tell you with some more clarity.

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Actually they were saying
if you understand this thing...

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Chief Justice has said that
Centre should pass a law in Parliament.

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Mr. Tiwari, the spokesperson of
BSP is also present with us.

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Tiwari sir I will come back to you
but before that Ms. Nusan.

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But they are showing something else on TV.

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Okay... yes.

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Five judges were sitting to decide.

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So three of them have
declared it unconstitutional.

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It means it is against our constitution.

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And right now I've spoken to Zakia.
It is also said that it is non-Islamic too.

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The Supreme Court bench's
decision has come. So we...

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Did you discuss the same with her?
-No.

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It means it is done.
-Now it's majority of three.

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Out of five three judges have declared it.

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Come on, celebrate!
- Judgment was in our favour.

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Safia Akhtar has said that Triple Talaq,
Halala, early marriage,

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lack of opportunity to claim maintenance
post divorce, polygamy

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- are some of the problems
faced by Muslim women.

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These practices destroys families and needs reform.

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I beg to move for need to introduce a bill
to protect the rights of married Muslim women

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... and to prohibit divorce by pronouncing
Talaq by their husband

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and to provide for matters...

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Framing a law, specifically criminalising
only Muslim husbands

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For a void act... an act already declared
void by the supreme court

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without having a universally applicable law
for the act of desertion

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... and that violates article 15 and 14
of the Constitution

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After the bill comes, you ask the husband

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If he has given Triple Talaq?

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If not, then go home with respect
if yes, go to jail and give maintenance

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For riot convicted, 2 years of imprisonment

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negligent rash driving
- 2 years

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Punishment for bribery
- 1 year may be

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But in this case
- 3 years of imprisonment

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When we are doing social work,

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we have to think whatever happens to us
we have to fight.

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Only then we can do it.
If we step back...

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If suppose you have a fight
with some management

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and if you get scared of it
for some reason

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then management will overpower you.

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That's why we have to stand firm
on our issues and not be afraid.