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[sil.]

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…wearing the black trunks, while in red
corner, Michael Schaller(ph), Schaller(ph).

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Take this Michael and wear them now.
(inaudible) right now.

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Upper cuts, upper cuts. Okay? Come on!
Don’t take it easy on him.

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Check hands afterwards. Okay, come on,
let’s go! Remember the first round…

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[sil.]

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Get him, get him. Jab, jab, jab, jab.

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Come on, Michael! Come on!

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Yeah! Come on!

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[sil.]

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(inaudible), Michael.

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[sil.]

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[music]

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[music]

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Chicago is a city made up of neighborhoods.

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A lot of people, especially blacks and Latins, are pushed in and out
of neighborhoods by things like higher rents and urban renewal.

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Neighborhoods which used to
be all white aren’t anymore,

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and the feelings of the people living there
changed. There’s tension, people get scared,

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some fight. But these changes
are only the beginning,

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and this movie is about the
next step of the process.

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[music]

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I live here and it’s like…
on the side of 26th Street.

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And when somebody like, Mexican moves in, you know, all the
neighbors get together and they’re (inaudible) the black, you know,

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for real. That’s what it’s like over here.

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Right away my parents, you know, all of them, you know, well, the Mexicans are
moving in, less… less space, you know. So we moved down about, you know, ten blocks.

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Half the block is owned by this
one dude named De. And De…

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He kind of goes around and buys up all these buildings. And
he kind of let it… He kind of rent to no black people,

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because the first thing he told us when we around and looked at the apartment
was not to worry about the niggers, because he owns half the block.

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The first apartment I
moved in was on Lyons,

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which is this suburban community
out in southwest area.

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And I brought this black sister home from
work with me. And we had planned to go see

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Giant panda in Maywood. And

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about 15 minutes after we got in the apartment, my
landlord, who lived upstairs from me, called up and said

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that, “You’ve got a black girl down there

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and I got two calls from the neighbors
and I want her out of there.”

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And it just freaked me out, because she
was a real good friend of mine. And

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so, I decided well, she’s not going anywhere. So about
half an hour later he calls back and then he says,

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”Well, is she got yet?” And I said, “No, she’s
not. And she’s not leaving.” And he just said,

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”Okay, you got 30 days to
get out.” And that was it.

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[music]

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The people who reacted most to the
changes in the neighborhoods were young.

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They joined gangs. They fought. They were the
ones who had to deal with each other every day,

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on the streets, in the
parks, and at the schools.

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Put it up, put it up.

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People were just becoming poorer and
poorer, because everything gets heavier

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and their lives are worse, so they’re more pissed
off and… There is the basis of lot (inaudible).

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Things just have to breakdown, because you get
to this conditions are the same for people.

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And they have to, for their own survival,
stop clubs and gotta get a peace treaty,

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because we’re losing five
or six dudes a year.

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Everybody was up tight, you know, on getting together and then all of a sudden
a few people got hurt, some got put in the hospital and one got killed,

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just over… just over it like this…
nothing, just over nothing.

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Everybody got together and

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they all agreed and we went from neighborhood to
neighborhood and talked about it. They all dug in.

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And we got together and all the club members went
and shook hands and said, everything is peace.

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(inaudible) united.

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Because they gotta peace treaty going, you know. Yeah. The couple of gangs… Like in war, you
know, peace treaty… Yeah, it’s real (inaudible). Yeah. People got tired of the fighting issue.

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Well, nothing gets done, you know. We get jumped over
here one day and next day we come running off too.

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They get 35 guys on us over here,

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we come back next day, when we get all of us unite and come
back against them. Oh shit! That’s maniac. Okay, cool!

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Then we got… Then we gotta go back to them and get them,
you know. And ain’t no good, you know. We’re just…

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We’re like together (inaudible) stay in their own… everybody has to stay
in their own neighborhood, that’s no more, you know, everybody can go…

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Like I even feel better, I can walk down the street without
having to turn around, were you still bullied, you know.

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Before you walk down the hallways and, you know,
there’d fighting in the hallways and stuff like that.

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And smacked in the head with the bottle and get your sweater taken
away and everything. Now everybody can walk through the hall.

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And even eat together at restaurants now. Right!
We drink with each other, smoke and (inaudible).

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Like, you know, you go to school and you read about
Dick and Jane living in a house with the white friends

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and they got (inaudible). And

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you know like you just don’t know. You think right (inaudible), how
come I ain’t got (inaudible) and lot of white friends around my crew.

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This is a race problem between blacks and whites. It’s not
really as much as a race problem, because it is a class problem.

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It was all like we were all lower class and

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ended in like a race problem between whites
and blacks. It’s really a class (inaudible).

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You know the whites… the whites are like, they’re higher status and, you
know, like Mexicans and blacks are nothing. Because they had the power,

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you know, (inaudible) even
since the Indians, you know.

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And so they think, you know, like that we ain’t no money. But we’re trying to
show them that we got power, you know, show them that… that we got a voice.

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Who’s gonna do that? We are.
The people, us.

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[music]

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Some had to leave the neighborhood for the service. They were
sent to Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, and Western Europe.

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Over there, they found themselves part
of the same process as back home.

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And like in the service, when you came in… when I
came in, I was down at boot camp and shit, you know.

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And all they do is to get down on you
with this racism shit even more,

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because here is this big doing stuff that they’re boom,
boom, boom, you know. (inaudible) shit out of you.

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Yeah. You know, they did even tell another shit. I
want you guys hanging around together, you know.

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That’s why they’ll set one like… It’s supposed to be in alphabetical
order, the bunks and shit, but they’ll put one black dude over there

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and one there and one in the middle, you know.
Five or six white dudes apart, you know.

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That’s the way they’d like…
That’s the integration.

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They kept pushing all the time, then people should, like… like be
frightening into the next battalion that your battalion was the best,

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and when we go this marching, you
were marching down the street saying,

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Bravo company, you know, is the best. And you’d say,
look to the right, and what do you see, you know?

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And you see another battalion. You’d say
something about them. You know, and they’re like

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people there with different color made it even more like saying, you gotta have
somebody to fight, you gotta have somebody to take your problems out on, you know.

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But I did get promoted.

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I had two years in grade, you know. And I’ve seen
dudes, they only had ten months, getting promoted.

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Oh yeah! Because the bulk of the people… like,
you take your bulk of your life is right,

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you’re gonna be sergeants, master sergeants, your officers,
the bulk of them are white or… or if they are not white,

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if they are black or Latin, they’re
super-grip Uncle Tom types, you know.

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I always got the shit detail, you know.
I always got everything that, you know.

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I’ve got my rifle, you know, because I was just playing tired
after running three miles with this big pack, you know.

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So, I was just were standing up there in poured arms, and
this sucker guy was there for about 40 minutes, you know.

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I said, “Oh shit!” This guy comes up to me,
“What the fuck you’re doing, you know?

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Why did you drop your rifle?” I said, “Because
I’m tired of this shit man!” He said, “Look,

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like, you better go with the fuck before I go.” I said, “Mother
fucker, if this thing was loaded, I’ll blow your ass away.”

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It just like causes like… like a lot of divisions, it’s
just like… it is like people don’t understand that much.

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They’re just like (inaudible) thinking in the wild, like you know, black dudes
might be coming up towards the basis time or some shit like that, you know.

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Say like if blacks had did nothing, if Latins had
did nothing, it would still be that racism there.

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But because of that thing that went on, there
was an awful lot of guys who hated it,

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and made them even more pissed off of blacks and Latins,
but there was an awful lot of white guys that like dug it.

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And as you find yourself, like just not
being able to cope with all the bullshit.

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You know what I’m talking about? You can’t cope with the fact
that you have to get up when the… when (inaudible) these sounds,

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and you have to go to bed when taps come off. You don’t go for
that. And all of these things, is real little basic things,

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is real little basic points of resistance
and point of… and points of unity,

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you find lacking in the people
that… that you’re with,

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you find lacking in the white people, you kinda miss that, you
say, “What the fuck is wrong here?” Yeah! “What is going on here?”

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And you seen blacks doing that,
how… like it was so heavy

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that I think at the same time there were so many guys that
fall into and say, “Wow, I like to be like that!” You know.

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One day, I’d be… I was sitting on my foot
locker, by the end of the bed there,

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and I was just… just kind of sitting there and talking
to one of my partners and… and this heck came in,

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I was picked off, you know,
(inaudible), he hated me anyway.

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So he comes in, and he’s giving me a
bunch of shit. So he tells me, ah…

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He comes out to me and says, “What are you up to, Mexican?”
You know. So I said, “I ain’t up to nothing.” So he tells me,

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”Look here prisoner, you stand up when you talk
to me.” Right, you know. “I’m the (inaudible).

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You stand up when you talk to me.” So
I said, “You don’t call me prisoner.

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” And I’m looking across, right across the
aisle there by the other side of racks,

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all the black dudes are together,
it’s about six in my (inaudible),

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so I’m just sitting there, I said, “You don’t call me a
prisoner.” “Well, what do I call you? What do I call you Mexican?

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Who the fuck do you think you are, the mayor,
the governor, the president?” So I said, “No”,

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I said, “You don’t call me prisoner.” “When you
talk to me”, I said, “You call me nigger.”

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Like that. And I just… I said, Well, you know… the way I was, was
either way I’ll go fucking, I either gonna make some new friends or

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I’m gonna get my ass with one, but I was gonna do one
and the other. I was… I was tired of this bullshit.

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So I just said that to him. And he freaked out. And as soon
as I said that, all of these other black dudes came across

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to… came across the aisle from the other side of the
racks and told him to get the fuck away from me,

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and he… and told him he ain’t
had nothing else to say to me.

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That was pretty hit man, because we’re like
brothers and then people become aware that you know

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what, you know, what it’s all about. You know, you know
about all this racism and impression and bullshit,

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they’ll… that you know, they’re with
you man, they’re 100% for me and shit.

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(inaudible) less and less (inaudible) starts
meaning more and more where’s your heads at.

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[music]

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People need jobs to live. But even if
they find work, they also find that

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just changing their feelings towards each
other doesn’t get to the real problem -

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it’s only one step in the process.

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We get along, you know.

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Time by time, usually sometimes we might
have something against each other,

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you know, but we’d bring it out in the
open, we’d bring it out in the open,

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because we’re together, you see. And,
you know, we like to keep it like that.

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Now, I’m… I’m not gonna lie. There are some white people that I don’t get along
(inaudible), you know. You know, but they’re not… they’re not up in here, you know.

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We’re all working in this factory. We’re all
getting ripped off. We’re all getting exploited.

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As long as, you know, black people and white people don’t see other whole
life, you know, they can believe all those old myths. Yeah, that’s it.

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You know, they can believe all that shit about, you know,
how, you know, how, you know, all whites are super-racist,

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you know, and all blacks (inaudible), and those bullshit, you know. But when you
start seeing each other, and you start realizing you got the same problems,

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you know, you’re living the same life, you’re getting ripped off
by the same people, you’re getting fucked over by the same pigs,

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you know, it makes a difference, you know. You see, you know… You know,
it’s like… You… You… You kind of realize that you’re brothers, you know.

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When came here, well, I was… I was, you know,
put down on the paper as a welder, you know.

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I was supposed to be on a weld. I’m not to be out as
a porter, you know, and sweeping floors and shit.

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Then like this white guy, you know, he’d come in as
a porter but he come out to be a welder, you know,

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you’re working on the machines. They try to better,
you know, better than before they better us.

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Hell yeah, I won’t quit like that.
I won’t quit.

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(inaudible) get bullshit only (inaudible).
I’m gonna dick.

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Say like the white guys, they’re much closer
to the firm than we are, you know. Like they…

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You can see the… the only… the only thing is
(inaudible) like the form of (inaudible),

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they will do that, they’ll… they’ll come to the white dudes and say,
well hey, you’re (inaudible) and shit, you know. They won’t tell us.

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The same shit go down when you… when you come in
here and you want a job and they say, you know,

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we ain’t hiring, and somebody gonna tell you they ain’t hiring,
because they, you know, they hired a bunch of niggers over here,

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you know, when they… and they’re doing all this… they’re doing all these jobs and shit. But then you get
in there, in that factory, you know, and you start seeing, you know, you start understanding, you know,

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that… that… you know, like he says, all of us are
broke, you know, we are all broke, you know.

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We know the people who really get fucked. I
mean, black, white, everybody get fucked over,

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but the Mexicans and Puerto Ricans, you know,
because like they come up here, you know,

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they can’t really make no money
over there, so they come over here

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and the white man, yeah, we got us some mother fucking
Mexicans and shit, you know, they welcome, mother fuckers,

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40 hours a week and shit

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and be paying them the pennies
(inaudible) and shit, you know.

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When I first got this job in this factory, they put me at the
end of this line, and there was this white sister there,

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and like she was like, just really
pushing all this job on me.

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And she knew I was new and I couldn’t do it. And like I kept
on messing up, because kept on having all these (inaudible)

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things and, they kept on bringing my job,

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you know, the work I’ve done back. And like,
she just kept on piling on all this thing,

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every time I’ll hear one of this things click, you know, I’d just freak
out, because there was more and more, you know, I’m really been hurrying,

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and like, she started overdoing
her rate like, (inaudible),

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she was really fast, and she was like doing maybe
twice what she was supposed to doing in an hour,

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just to mess me up, I knew it. And so, I
just like got tired of it like, you know,

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I just really freaked out and went
after her with this (inaudible).

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But all the bosses went along what she did,
because, I mean, they would profit out of it,

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because one thing they could, you know, make the lines
go faster and really overworking for the same pay.

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They’re mainly up for making money and they don’t, you know,
they’ll do anything to make some, be able to make more money.

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You get paid less and whites get paid more.

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And there’s… You know, the white person
doesn’t want the black person to get as much,

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because you’ve been… I mean, as white people, I think a lot
of people been taught that they’re better than anybody else.

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My parents were always like they
were racist towards black people.

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And it was because they were just… white is beautiful, white is
better, there’s always push by the media, the advertisements,

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the billboards, newspapers, magazines,

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there’s always push that white was better. You
know they were still living in the same types

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of how this conditions as the
blacks, but they were still better.

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They really… They really teach you that, you know, and you can see it, because
they have like worst schools for Latin people than they do white people,

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they are more crowded, they don’t
get, you know, as good teaching.

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Say you’re black or Spanish, on the every age maybe you can
have a college, sometime you still wanna working in the factory

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or you’re working in some (inaudible) and you’re
not getting paid, and you know for the fact

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that maybe a white person’s getting paid twice or three times more than you’re
getting paid. Racism is something that that gets them to be making more money.

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You should not get nothing by giving a couple
of pennies more that you still be fucked over,

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because the owner’s are making
all the profit, you know.

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It’s like he’s walking away with the whole pot and there’s
these people down there fighting for the crumbs that are left,

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you know. And if they can give white people little bit
more then they got ten people divide it, you know.

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So that’s the problem with the system, because when you think,
well, I got my education, you know, I think I should be up there

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and I’ve done all these things that they tell me on the TV and
stuff to do, get an education and dress better and talk better and

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all these kind of things, but still when you go out
and make an application for a job, you’re black,

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so they’re gonna look for the lowest paying
that, you know, the worst job to give to you.

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So you think, well, why did I get that education? What’s the use of
getting all this education? I’m still black, and that’s gonna change it.

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I’m still Spanish, you know, and that’s gonna change it. What’s gonna
change? When the whole system is changed, when people get together and see

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that it’s gotta be the system,
we gotta make the system change.

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The white people will try to protect their rights, because they’re getting
a little bit more. And so that way they’ll never gonna come together,

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because if they come together, the boss knows that factory is
gone, it’s out of his hands, it’s gonna be for the people.

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I mean, that’s the whole thing.

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