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When the Spanish conquered
Guatemala in 1524,

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the Mayans were forced into newly created

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and more easily controlled communities.
Later they served as a cheap labor force

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for the richest 2% of the population.
Mostly on the coffee

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and cotton plantations on
Guatemala southern coast.

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By the early 1980s, mounting resistance
to a string of military dictatorships

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and simple pleas for human rights for many
segments of society led to a bloody civil war.

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Nearly one million people, mostly
Maya were killed, disappeared

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or displaced within the country.
Over 200,000 fled to Mexico.

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Island Maya communities became
places of sorrow and fear,

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controlled by the military and
monitored by civil patrols.

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Many of those who fled to Mexico continued
north. At night on foot with up to 10 children,

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they made their way across the U.S.
border to California,

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Arizona, and Texas. Others made
their way east to Florida,

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to a town that beckoned them with its name until the
promise of small town life and ample agricultural work.

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Indian town Florida, it was to become
a welcome center and new hometown

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for 1,000s of Maya from Guatemala.

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We have to forget

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umm… sometimes how they used to live.

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It’s the beginning of a new life.

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I remember that umm… that day that
we, we got out of the country.

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We left everything behind, you
know, and then crossed the border.

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All I remember, there are fields, you know, you
keep running and running and not let the uh…

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police or whatever catch you. And
then the first time I ate umm…

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white bread, it, I mean, it was like the
most delicious thing I’ve ever eaten.

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[music]

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They thought we were subversives

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and they didn’t like the kind of
work we were doing over there.

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The last thing I remember was on Friday,
my mother telling me before we left

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to not to tell anybody that we were leaving. To
just pretend like we were coming back on Monday.

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[music]

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I mean, going back to my hometown,
I can’t fight for my community.

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The first thing they’re… they’re
gonna do is to kill me.

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[music]

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When I entered Mexico, I
was no longer Guatemalan.

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I was Mexican.

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And many people are living here
in Indiantown, Guatemala people

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where they are part of Indian, so that’s
why my dad wanted to live over here too.

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[music]

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They just don’t think like we do, they’re.
You know, they just don’t think like we do.

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[music]

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We’re so different. Music, you listen to.
I mean, we listen to Namarima(ph)

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which umm… sometimes when my friends hear, they’re
like, \"What is that Chinese music?\" You know,

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like they don’t understand, I
mean, it doesn’t have words

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or anything but you get the feeling inside.

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The seminal Indians used to camp

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and had a trading post on
uh… the bank of the canal,

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St. Loucy canal and that’s where
it got the name Indiantown.

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Now, it’s been years since they lived here.

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60 years, 70 years maybe. They lived

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uh… about 45 miles from here on a reservation
called the Brighton, Indian reservation

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and then there is one about 65 miles
south and then one below Miami.

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[music]

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In 1982, we were a quiet

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agricultural community of
where it’s 3,500 people.

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Give or take a 100 or so of 500 season when
the pickers come into harvest the fruit

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and the Guatemalan started to arrive

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and over the past 10 years, we’ve
had probably 5,000 or 6,000 of them

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and there has not been

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additional housing for them or additional housing
for people that have lived here for a long time.

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So when you pack 5000 extra people
into this type of community,

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it definitely has an impact. A
lot of people have a feeling

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like, this is community going down the tubes.
Can we recoup it? That’s the big question.

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When uh… when the Guatemalans
have moved into the areas

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and you find that people next door
are ready to sell, ready to get out,

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well sure, it’s been a shock to
Americans, a big… big shock.

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Most Americans have never, you
know, seen these little people.

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They don’t understand them and you know, the pure
fact that you’ve got 30 of them living next door

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that are speaking some strange language,

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that has a big impact.

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What kind of work does your husband do?

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Picks papers. Is it the
only work he does? Yes.

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How much can he earn in a week?

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Not more than a $140 or a $150, not more.

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How long have you been here in Indiantown?

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Four years. We’re going to
return to Guatemala again.

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You’re not afraid?

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No, because my family is there,

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my mother is there. I have young
brothers and sisters there.

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We have no father. That’s
why I came to work here.

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The impact of the Guatemalan
population to the Indiantown community

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is probably, as far as our business is concerned
is one of the best that has happened in Indiantown

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in the 22 years that I’ve lived here.
The Indiantown was,

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is always been a suppressed community

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and that the fact that they have brought,
they do, they are all working class people,

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they do spend their money basically in
the, in the local community businesses

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and that’s, that’s what the community
needs. People to spend their money here.

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People who arrived here
find a new environment.

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Many come from small hamlets in Guatemala.
They have no knowledge of the modern life

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that they find here in the United States.

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Aside from the technological advances, we also come into contact
with people of different races and different languages.

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We have to learn

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to live alongside African Americans, Asians
and people from other parts of the world

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who are in this country. It
is a new phenomenon for us

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because we are not familiar with that.

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And I was six years, seven or six years old, first got on a bus and
see black people in my life and umm… it was kind of weird because I,

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I remember question asking my mother,
why are these people so dark?

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You know and I said, why are we the same color, you know,
you know how you start asking questions that you don’t know

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and well until I thought they were as,
you know the same as us, but then time

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went by as they started treating us really
bad because we didn’t speak English

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and you know, every time, they would ask a
question, we probably answer yes and they,

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I don’t remember so many times that they… they just laugh
when we say yes, so who knows what they were asking,

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all I know is that it was
very, it was a cruel time

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and the Mexican people too. Because when we moved into an apartment,
you know, they made fun of us because we didn’t know Spanish.

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So we were rejected both ways.

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Not every person in the United States or any
teenager of my age is going through this like me.

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You know, because I’m Spanish and I don’t mean to say Spanish,
I’m sorry, I’m Hispanic like everybody else around me.

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Umm… yeah,

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I’m Indian. They think like
umm… everybody that is dark

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or brownish color is Mexican. But
I told them, \"No, we’re Indians,

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we come from Guatemala.\" And they don’t even know where,
you know, they didn’t even know where Central America is.

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I’m very proud of being what I am. I would
not change if, you know, place or anything.

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Yeah, it was very hard at the beginning.
I had to get adjust to the environment,

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to the people. New things they had use like
toilets that I didn’t have no idea of using.

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TV that we’ve never seen and
it’s like, it’s kind of funny

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because I see it liked the ancient times.
Every time they discover something new,

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they all go, you know crazy and happy and all that and I…
I see it that way, I just don’t act that way, you know.

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It’s, yeah it’s hard at the beginning. You know,
I have to learn how to live the way they do.

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But, you have to at the same time keep
your Mayan heritage and you know,

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don’t forget that you’re a Guatemalan.
Only because you speak English or Spanish,

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you’re not what you are, you know.

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[music]

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I’ve been in the United States
with my family 11 years.

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But, I came many times before
when my family was in Guatemala.

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Since ‘75,

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it’s been 16, 17 years that I’ve
been working here in the U.S.

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I picked pears, peaches, almonds,
tomatoes, cherries, squash.

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[non-English narration]

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Well, all these business is not mine.

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The money I make here is not mine.
It’s for the people.

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For fireworks, soccer games,

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trophies, dancing, to pay musicians.

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[non-English narration]

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So the people come to buy and we
put the money toward the fiesta.

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[non-English narration]

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The center

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uh… provide uh… help to the Guatemalans
like, to help them to fill out

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or to apply for asylum and especially
the main thing is translation

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and uh… to fill up or to help the people

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with their immigration papers.

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[non-English narration]

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Most people seem afraid
to talk about politics

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even though are here in
the United States. Why?

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They are afraid, what’s gonna happen to them if they go
back to Guatemala? What’s gonna happen if, to their family,

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if they air back home? If
the government find out

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what’s this person is saying, they can do something
against his family, for example my family,

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for example we’re involved in… in… in some
stuff here in the community, in back in ‘87,

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one of my sisters went
to… to Guatemala and,

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and then they said, they confuse her with one
of the gorilla leader and they took her,

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she was in the jail and was with an anger.
They are afraid that can happen to them

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and at the same time, they want to forget about what happened
because talking about it is like leaving a game that nightmare

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or whatever it’s in everybody’s life

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and that’s why they don’t want
to talk about it. I love my town

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because back in ‘80, that’s when
the, the (inaudible) hometown,

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my father, he was one of the bigger leader
in my hometown. If there is a school,

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hostel need, he’s involved, he used to be involved in it
and maybe that’s one of the reasons that we left town

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because knowing uh… knowing my dad, I
mean, he never like, let the people

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to tell him what to do when he
knows what his community needs

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and that’s one of the main
reason they want to kill him.

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My uncle, Mathehulio(ph) was killed by the
subversives. The gorillas as they call them.

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My brother, a miner was
killed by the subversives.

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I was going to be killed by the subversives.
Why? Because I had come to the United States,

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I brought back my few thousand dollars,
bought my land and planted my coffee.

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[non-English narration]

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Just because I had a little
coffee, they wanted to kill me.

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But, when things got really serious,

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the army didn’t look at who was a subversive and who
wasn’t. The army came down on everyone the same way.

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They killed people, guilty or not guilty.

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[sil.]

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Airplanes or helicopters all over our houses,
you know, not my house only, but the whole town

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that I live in and I remember us going under the
bed, momma told us, you know, hide under the bed.

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And the one weird thing was
the ladies, they were Cortez.

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They took them off and they would start swinging
them around, you know, and I asked my mom

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why they do that? And then she
answered me, she said that umm…

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they do that because in a way men are
coward because they are doing killing

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and all that men are not supposed to do that and
if you swing your skirt around, they will go away.

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[music]

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Things that you hear about, know that,

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you remember about Guatemalas the bad part.

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You know, American little kids would always learn own the gifts I have, toys
here, I have, then we used to have parties and birthdays and cakes and friends

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and there is like, you know, you’re always in
war, you don’t know what’s the good side of it.

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So all you know basically is
that people are killing people.

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I am from Jacaltenango.

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I am a Jacaltec Indian. My father was a farmer
who also went to work on the plantations.

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In Guatemala, I was an agronomist. I worked
with people in indigenous communities

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to improve their land and their
agricultural production.

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There was talk of organization
of the power to change things.

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Of course the authorities,
the powerful people

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did not see this as a good thing for them.
Many of my friends and colleagues

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were abducted, were simply
machine gunned in the streets.

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Others were kidnapped

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and a week later their tortured bodies were
found in ditches on the side of the road.

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The main reason, they were involved

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with the poorest people, the most
needy and so it was very easy to say,

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if one work with the poor, \"Uh… he’s
subversive,\" in order to eliminate him.

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There was no guarantee for my family or
myself and so I had to leave the country.

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The problems we have in Guatemala

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have very deep roots. The injustice we
have been living with for 100s of years.

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One day the people get tired.

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They want better living
conditions and better life.

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And so they organize, but
this very organization

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which tries to better their lives is
seen as a bad thing by other persons.

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They don’t want the people to organize
or to learn to read and write. Why?

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To be able to manipulate them, drag them down
to the plantations to work for very low pay.

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So to speak about organization or education
clashes with the interest of these persons.

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And this still exists?

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Of course, this exists, exists every day in Guatemala
because only a very small group leads well.

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They don’t want to give up even
a tiny bit of their privilege.

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I felt more seriously discriminated
when I came down to Florida

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because more of the kids here had met more of the
Guatemalans and they were at a certain stereotype.

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You know, where they were just, you know, you’re a
Guatemalan, you’re a farm worker, you do all these

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and maybe they couldn’t believe that when I
told them that I was Guatemalan because,

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well, they just say, \"well, you don’t look like one. You know
you’re taller, your hair is not straight. You just speak English.\"

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Although, my father is Indian and
my mother is like, you know,

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I relate more to my mother. Even when I go back to Guatemala,
I’m more in touch with my cousins on my mother’s side

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basically because they live in the city
and they’re more in a way Americanized

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than my cousins from my father side.
Like my cousins on my father side are,

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what I feel very old fashioned. You
know, they don’t, their aspirations,

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some of their aspirations are still to stay in the
village and more maybe the crop and things like that.

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While, my other cousins live in the city
and they are also going to college.

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So I can relate to them more and umm… when I went back to Guatemala
and I told my cousins that in the town that we lived in,

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there was a lot of Canhoba(ph) Indians. They were like, \"Well,
what’s a Canhoba?(ph) and I was, well, that’s an Indian tribe

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of Guatemala you didn’t know and it’s just because
they’re, it’s not something that they take interest in

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because it doesn’t really involve them.
Also the towns are so far apart that

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and there are so many different
types of specific Indians

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that they just, they don’t bother themselves
to learn them all because to them, they’re all

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like an Indian, you know.

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What I think is a big difference is that the Indian
people are very calm maybe because like the Latinos

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are already caught up in the hectic, you know,
being hectic about being so ambitious and stuff

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and they are always striving and so
they are very, you know, spastic,

00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:24.999
I don’t know. Yeah, westernizing that way
which they are like rushing… rushing…

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rushing because I remember when we traveled from the
capital of Guatemala when we went back two years ago,

00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:34.999
and we traveled and we went
to my dad’s home village,

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it was so different because people were,
they took their time. They were much slower,

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you know, they were just, they were just so much more calm. They
were more peaceful. They didn’t have to, they didn’t deal with,

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with the hecticness of westernization.

00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:59.999
In Guatemala, those of us who are
Mayan, they call us Indito(ph),

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little Indian. Not Indian or indigenous
because that sounds pretty good.

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But Indito, little Indian.

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That means, we can’t read, we can’t talk, we
can’t go into a town, we can’t take a bus

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because the Indito doesn’t know anything.

00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:24.999
There’s discrimination.

00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:29.999
Down there, you see people on civil patrol guarding
the road. They are not Latinos, they’re indigenous.

00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:34.999
The Latinos are sleep in their nice beds
with their television and their music.

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They are in bed while the
poor guy is on patrol.

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That is what’s going on in Guatemala.

00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:59.999
The peasants in Guatemala, the indigenous
in Guatemala, we are very weak

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because we don’t have enough education.

00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:09.999
It’s just like someone arrives right now.

00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:14.999
If I can’t speak Spanish or don’t know what to
say, the other person can dominate me very easily.

00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:20.000
That is what’s going on in Guatemala.

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[music]

00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:59.999
After the violence kill people and everything,
I left home and I went to the coast,

00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:04.999
work for food. I was working like
four or five years in the coast.

00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:09.999
That was like to continue
vacation, but how can,

00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:14.999
can I get the money? And then
I have a lots of family,

00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:19.999
so I say to my father, I’ve got to go.

00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:24.999
Yeah, I went to, to
follow that for one month

00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:29.999
working abroad, but after
this… this month no more.

00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:34.999
Then I come down to Indiantown.
23 days to go now

00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:39.999
looking for job all of these
and I can’t find anything.

00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:44.999
Last summer, I find some job
in the landscape, but now

00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:49.999
it’s hard because so many people

00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:54.999
and they are looking for job and job so

00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.999
and the other things you have to…
to have paper. I got some paper

00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.999
that like the people have anything

00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:09.999
these go in the field working
in… in the tomatoes.

00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:14.999
At 11 or 12, we start working.

00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:19.999
We must wait until the tomatoes dry off.
We can’t start now.

00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:24.999
The whole family has to help.

00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:29.999
How else can you eat? We have to work.

00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:34.999
It’s much worse in our country.

00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:39.999
Where do you come from? Guatemala.
Yes, but which village?

00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:44.999
The San Rafeal. San Rafeal. Department of
(inaudible). That’s where we come from.

00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:49.999
We can’t earn

00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:54.999
there what we earn here.

00:26:55.000 --> 00:27:00.000
There is also a lot of
violence there. Still.

00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:09.999
[sil.]

00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:14.999
Last week, I didn’t earn much, about $69.

00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:19.999
You can’t earn much money here.

00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:24.999
You’ll see. Sometimes we start
at 10 or 11 in the morning

00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:29.999
and we finish around 4. Depending on
how many truck loads, the owners want.

00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:34.999
You leave here very tired and dirty,

00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:39.999
your face, your shirt, everything.

00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.999
You have to work really fast,

00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.999
so you can earn something since
they only pay 40 cents a bucket.

00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:58.000
[sil.]

00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:19.999
If you give it to them with the stem, they
don’t want it. It has to be clean like this.

00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:24.999
Otherwise, they won’t give you a ticket.

00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:29.999
And if the tomato’s don’t dry off?

00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:34.999
Well, we will go home.

00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:39.999
And so you won’t earn anything?
No, nothing.

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:48.000
[sil.]

00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:54.999
You can’t work today?

00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:59.999
Not now, not till tomorrow. So you don’t
earn anything? No, the day is lost.

00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:04.999
[sil.]

00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:13.000
[music]

00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.999
When we are in Guatemala, my
brother, he was a teacher,

00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:24.999
so he give us uh… some help for food

00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:29.999
and some money to pay for my
school because my, my idea is go

00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:34.999
and continue education because I
like education. I like school,

00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:39.999
but I not finish my high school
because my brother is gone,

00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:44.999
80, 82 when he died.
When the army killed him

00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:49.999
in my town, Todos Santos. Everybody
knows the army kill him.

00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:54.999
He’s a teacher, somebody no
like him in the army so,

00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:59.999
so hungry for killing people.

00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.999
They’ll ask you, I can’t speak
English and it’s so hard.

00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:09.999
I want uh… to make a conversation
with someone, but I can’t because

00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.999
and it’s… it’s… it’s sad actually.

00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.999
It’s different world and, I… I
just want to go back home by then,

00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:24.999
so, but you know, I say, no I’m here.
So I’m just going, keep going.

00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:29.999
Oh, the blue camp,

00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:34.999
they sleep like in Guatemala
and of course the same thing.

00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:39.999
In each room, it’s like
six, eight, or nine four

00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.999
or five hundred dollars
a month for one room.

00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:49.999
But I was there because I
can’t find anything to live

00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:54.999
because so many people, so the
same toilet, the same shower

00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:59.999
and it’s so bad because they work in the
field, come back and all the boots,

00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:05.000
all, everything, it’s definitely bad.

00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:38.000
[music]

00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:09.999
We’re coming up to

00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:14.999
on our left here, one of the two
Latin bars in this community.

00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.999
Uh… we spend a lot of time on
our Friday and Saturday nights

00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:24.999
responding to disturbance calls
here, fights uh… drug trouble.

00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:29.999
Uh… this is one of the places from which we escort a lot
of people to try to get them home without getting hurt.

00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:34.999
Some of them walk a mile through these
streets that walk by themselves,

00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.999
the streets are dark. Uh… none of us would
ever consider walking down these streets

00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:44.999
without an escort. These are young
single men mostly below 30.

00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:49.999
They are not here with wives, they are
not here with families and so you know,

00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:54.999
like young single men of any culture on a
weekend night, they want to go out and party.

00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:59.999
These, these guys, they are lining up to go rob
the Guatemalans. These guys here from blue camp,

00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:04.999
they are looking for somebody to get,
get their hands in their pocket.

00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:09.999
It’s not everybody by any means, but there is a, it
seems to be a pass time with a bunch of young males

00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.999
around here that Guatemalans are easy pickings. They
don’t understand the system in the first place.

00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.999
They’re afraid of being deported and
most of them just don’t want to take

00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.999
the day off work to go get their $100 back. The
girls are coming down here to make their money.

00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.999
This particular street we’re on has always

00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.999
been a favorite place for the people that
are gonna rob these Guatemalans to be.

00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:39.999
This is the favorite route for the
Guatemalans to travel from place to place

00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.999
and uh… until they clear it out, a lot of the brush
on either side of the road and put these lights up,

00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:50.000
people will just line up along here waiting
for them to come down the road to be robbed.

00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:48.000
[music]

00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.999
Becoming more like Jesus Christ, that’s
our goal here and what he presents

00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:09.999
as we study God’s word from week to week. Next week,
we’ll return to our study of good relationships.

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.999
So invite a friend to
listen, to moody presents.

00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.999
This is WRNB Bointon(ph) beach,

00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.999
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South Florida at 89.3 FM.

00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:30.000
The time is exactly 9 o’clock.

00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:43.000
[sil.]

00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:04.999
Yeah, you… you don’t see me, you know, and so it’s like, at our
school, there is only, there is probably five or six of us

00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:09.999
out of thousands of students.

00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.999
Why, because the first thing up here, it does,
they take their kids to work, pick oranges

00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:19.999
or tomatoes and vegetables, all types.
They see the money is really powerful

00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.999
that buys you whatever you want and then, they start
dropping out and I see girls kind of playing in.

00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:29.999
Young girls my age in my country would
be, you know, mothers of three.

00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.999
A mother, you know, I would be
a mother of three kids by now

00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:39.999
and I see that very, very odd and strange and I
have a lot of friends that dropped out of school,

00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.999
a couple of, you know, years ago
who have kids and they’re pregnant

00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:49.999
and their husbands leave them. For
me, it’s a problem, but to them,

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.999
it’s like, well, to that, you know,
it’s just the same way. Here or there.

00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:59.999
I was eleven when I got out of school. My
dad said, I was old enough to go to work.

00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:04.999
Those ended my life, that’s it. I was on
farm worker almost since all of that time.

00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:09.999
I was 17 when I had my first kid.

00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.999
Then I was 18 when I have my second one.

00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.999
Girls, they do a lot a work in Guatemala. The
parents don’t want them to go to school,

00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:24.999
that’s what they do in Guatemala. But, I don’t know
about now, but many people they are going to school

00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:29.999
because long time ago, they weren’t any people go to
school. That’s like my parents, now, you know, they can’t

00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.999
write or they can’t read because their, their parents used
to hide them under the bed or go hide somewhere else.

00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:39.999
That’s what my mom said. That’s like my mum never went
to school. When they grow up, they’re gonna, you know,

00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:44.999
they’re gonna go to school. Well,
they’re gonna finish high school.

00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.999
That I want her to be a doctor, an aim could be a nurse when they
grow up, you got to have enough money to send them to college.

00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:54.999
I’m very, very grateful to God and very
happy that I have a father like my dad,

00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:59.999
you know, he doesn’t give me a
$100 to spend on a dress or

00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:04.999
anything like that. The only treasure he
will leave me when he dies or whatever,

00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:09.999
it’s education. I really
like school because,

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.999
you know, umm… it’s just another home.
Umm… school at 6:45

00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:19.999
till 6 o’clock sometimes because I
love being involved in so many things,

00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:24.999
band, soccer, clubs, academic games.

00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:29.999
First, because I feel happy
towards college and because umm…

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.999
I think it’s just another way of showing or
telling people that I’m just like you, you know.

00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:39.999
Because so many people are Guatemalan
girls, they go, they just go to school

00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:44.999
and you know, they get kicked around in other words,
you know, they, there is, \"Oh, there she goes.

00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:49.999
Oh, look at her clothing and all the stuff, she doesn’t
get involved, she doesn’t say,\" you know, it’s me,

00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:54.999
I’m just like you. It’s hard
growing up with discrimination,

00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:59.999
but you have to cry sometimes, you know,
just to be, to be what you want to be.

00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.999
To be what I’m now, it’s,
it was just my dream

00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:09.999
and I guess it’s another dream come true.
But there are,

00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.999
I have thousands of dreams and I’ve
just conquered one of them, you know.

00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.999
It’s very hard to start a new life

00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:24.999
if you don’t have anybody to help you.
Indiantown is like a welcome center.

00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:29.999
Most of the Guatemalans come to
Indiantown first and after a few months

00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.999
they get in contact with some other relatives
in Lakeworth or Lantana, (inaudible)

00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:40.000
and they travel to another place.

00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:49.999
[sil.]

00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:54.999
Here in uh… Provincetown,
it’s a three centers already.

00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:59.999
Well, in Indiantown uh… was a little bit too
hard to me because uh… I was looking for job

00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.999
all over place and I couldn’t find any
jobs because so many people down there

00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:09.999
looking for job and uh… two
months, you know, without jobs.

00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:14.999
So I was worrying about it because you
know, I have to pay my rent, buy food

00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:19.999
and then I find a job, but uh…

00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:24.999
I just like one month and
then I back to provincetown.

00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.999
I like Provincetown because I uh…
I have two jobs. I do like a,

00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.999
a day 13 hours. So and then I
work six, six days a week.

00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:39.999
In the morning, I’m doing
laundry and landscape and then,

00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:44.999
in afternoon, wash dishes. It’s big
change, it’s big, it’s different,

00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.999
totally different. They
sit down and explain,

00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:54.999
you know, what kind of job I… I want to
take and uh… you know, with how many hours

00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:59.999
and in Guatemala, it’s very bad
because uh… we work many hour

00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:04.999
and the cost and they treat the uh… the
people like uh… you know, like, animals

00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:09.999
because they just drop you like a core

00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.999
in a beans and then whole month.

00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:19.999
You know, they… they… they just want the job done. We
get, you know, work very hard, we get like $2 a day.

00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:24.999
So they treat the people
down there simply very bad.

00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:29.999
Up here, I have this, you know,
all these kind of stuff, but

00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.999
umm… the problem is, you know,
I just, just be on myself.

00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:39.999
Like in Todos Santos, in my country, we
spend more time with the family together.

00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:44.999
We got to go another… another
country, another town,

00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:49.999
so my mother, she’s crying because
she, it’s like he, he’s dead.

00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:54.999
If it’s nothing happens, no problem with army
and the guerilla, we don’t worry about money.

00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:59.999
We are happy, be together. But uh… comes
the problem, big destruction with us,

00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:04.999
you know, they kill… they kill the family.
That’s… that’s the army.

00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:09.999
We Indians, they say, \"Eh, you
Indian, what are you doing here?

00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:14.999
What do you want?\" Here, you
see, you uh… you independent.

00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.999
You see, you work wherever, wherever you
do, you know, wherever you want to do.

00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:24.999
It’s, you know, nobody bothers you.
Yeah, they still have the uh…

00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:29.999
patrol civil in Todos Santos
because it’s, it’s the same thing.

00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.999
The change is with the, is the government,
you know, we have new government,

00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:39.999
new president, but they still
carrying like they before.

00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.999
It’s not that many like they did
it when like ‘82, ‘84, ‘82.

00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.999
But you know, it’s, it’s still bad life.

00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.999
Here if I go back this uh… this October, I go there
and they say, \"Oh, you got your back. All right,

00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:59.999
that’s your gun.\" So I
got, I got to take it.

00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:04.999
If I go back to Indiantown, you know, it’s like start
over again especially when you don’t have a car.

00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:09.999
So it’s… it’s hard you know, you
got to walk all over the place

00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:14.999
to find the apartment and then you,
you know, got to look for job.

00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:19.999
I think it’s, it’s, you know, it’s, well,
everything, it’s hard in this life,

00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:24.999
you know, you got that all over again.

00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:33.000
[music]

00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:04.999
The family seem to be more situated,
more willing to settle into a community.

00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:09.999
But we have so many young
kids, young fellows,

00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.999
you know, between 15 and 20. When
they first got their driver’s,

00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.999
they didn’t get driver’s license,
they got cars and it was like umm…

00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:24.999
bumper cars in Indiantown. We’ve had town
meetings to try and solve some of these problems.

00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:29.999
We’ve tried to have
intercultural type activities

00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.999
that try and understand where they are
coming from, understand their music.

00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:39.999
Let them understand where we are
and why we do the things we do

00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:44.999
in our community to make it a
better place for everyone.

00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.999
And it’s been difficult. Not
all the people in Indiantown

00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:54.999
come from villages. Many
come from small hamlets.

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They have no education.

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They land here with their eyes closed. They
think it’s the same here as in Guatemala.

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Here it is different.

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Here, you must walk with both your feet firmly
on the ground and you must be a worker.

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The Americans don’t want bums,

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they don’t want drunks or thieves. But,
the Americans want is that you work.

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[non-English narration]

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If you earn money and put it in a bank together with
theirs, they are not going to say you are an Indian

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or Guatemalan or you have no right, no. Just
like you have a right to go to the bank,

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you have rights in a shop or in a
restaurant. But we go to a restaurant,

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one American sits here, another one there
with us in the middle. They don’t say,

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this is an Indian or he’s eating too much or whatever.
The Americans like us a lot if we are good people.

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If we are not, they will not like us.
That is correct.

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Oh, they’re the best. I mean, they uh… they’re
the type of people that are very detailed.

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It’s almost like they come from an agrarian background
and I don’t know that they, they do or that they don’t.

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Umm… But, they just have
some what of a feeling

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for what they’re doing. They
care, they have great hearts.

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Well, they came here four years ago and a little fella
jumped out of a van and said they were looking for a job

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and we needed some, some workers and, and there
were four fellas and that worked up for week

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and then we hired two more and
we’ve got uh… 16 people now.

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We got two girls and 16, 14 guys.
They cut the cups

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uh… they mow everything with our hydraulic
units. They fertilize umm… with supervision.

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They spray uh… they do everything on
the golf course. When they showed up,

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uh… this was just raw land. It
was, we pushed up the sand hills

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and they just basically shaped and it was rough shape.
Didn’t have any grass on it and from that point on,

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they helped to build it. We hand dug
a lot of the bunkers with shells,

00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:09.999
myself and a couple of the other guys and from there on, it was a
learning. I was teaching them things and they were teaching me things.

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But yeah, they built the golf course
and it was all of us together.

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They’ve got such great
pride and dignity and,

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and it’s reflected in their work. It’s just like
this jacket uh… this was a gift from those fellas,

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a year ago and I wear this all the time
because as you can see, it’s gorgeous

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and there was great detail and someone cared when they put it
together. And that’s the way uh… they’ve done the golf course

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and that’s the way they do their jobs here. You
know, they care just, just a great culture.

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It’s a shame to see it become Americanized unless we
learn something from them because I think that’s uh…

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they’ve got something that
we don’t really have.

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It’s a great people, I think.

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[music]

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[non-English narration]

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The Fiesta San Miguel. We’re
having it here for our children

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those who got here in the 80s. Many
were only one, two or three years old.

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They don’t know anything about San Miguel
Acatán. They feel like Americans here

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and so we have the Fiesta.

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And there is the children
who become the queen,

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the Madrinas and their escort. We give
them a role in the history of Guatemala

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or San Miguel Acatán.

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Our patron saint has said Michael
the Arc angel. We are Miguelaneous.

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St. Michael is the first
among all the angels

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because he fought with Lucifer,
the angel of the devil.

00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:13.000
[non-English narration]

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Lucifer wanted to rule God. He wanted to be more
important than God. But, he couldn’t because God is God.

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And so they fought with swords.

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They fought and fought and St. Michael
won and killed the angel of the devil.

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This is the story

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or this is what we know
of our patron saint.

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The statue of our patron is here in
holy cross church in Indiantown.

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We are celebrating our Fiesta here.

00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:54.999
[non-English narration]

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There is a madrina(ph)
of the Catholic church

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since most of us who have
Fiestas are Catholic.

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We also have a madrina of the farm workers.

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We pick oranges, tomatoes and
everything that grows on the farms.

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So we have our madrina in the fiesta.

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We also have a madrina of sports since
we like soccer, basketball and all that.

00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:29.999
[non-English narration]

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The young woman with the (inaudible),
the crown and all that is the queen.

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There is only one queen and her escort.

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And the children to add
color to the Fiesta.

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[music]

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The queen presents our history. She
carries with her all our customs.

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She knows what she is doings. She knows.

00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:18.000
[non-English narration]

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Because our ancestors,
the Maya had their king

00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:29.999
and their queen.

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The first kings and queens had their
rituals where offerings were made.

00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:43.000
[non-English narration]

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We don’t do that now instead we only give
the crown and other gifts to the queen

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and we have dancing and music.

00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:09.999
We have Maya. I tell my children
don’t forget our culture,

00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:14.999
our customs, our language.

00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:19.999
[non-English narration]

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We have to combine both things. The
positive values in our culture

00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:29.999
and the positive values that
are part of this culture.

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We must try to unite not this unite

00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:39.999
because we appreciate only what we find here and
forget what we have. We will become nothing.

00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:44.999
[non-English narration]

00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:49.999
Here at the Hope rural school, we have meetings
with parents so that they can understand

00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:54.999
and see how they can help their children take
advantage of the educational opportunities here

00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:59.999
in the United States. And at
the same time, they themselves

00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.999
can learn to value what they have.

00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:09.999
They are people who work the land. They plant corn,
they plant beans. We have seeds from Guatemala

00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:14.999
so that they can plant and also
teach their children how to do it.

00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:19.999
The children who are brought up here

00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:24.999
have lost the skill. They
go to the store, buy beans,

00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:29.999
buy flour, but they don’t know how
to put a seed of corn in the ground.

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We also want the parents to
feel that this belongs to them.

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That they must participate
as a support for the school

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just as at times, the school must support
them in the education of their children.

00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.999
[music]

00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:54.999
The idea of the new garden is to grow different
types of plants. Perennials, tropical fruits,

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semi permanent plants.

00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:04.999
With sections for flowers and
vegetables from Guatemala

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to create a combination, a
harmony of colors and flavors.

00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:14.999
[non-English narration]

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Be a special meeting place.

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Not simply to plant and harvest,
but for personal interaction.

00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:29.999
[non-English narration]

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To work a little,

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have lunch and play some
games with the children.

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A combination of activities to
strengthen and support the family.

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[music]

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I maybe poor, but I want all
my children to finish school.

00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.999
[music]

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The harder life is,

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it’s the better I think because uh… it
gives you like the strength to go on

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and on and on till you reach the top.

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What I was planning

00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:29.999
on doing after because I’m planning
on studying medicine is going,

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joining kind of like a corp of doctors that travels to…
to different countries where they work with people,

00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:39.999
you know, who really need them. So I
probably would go back to Guatemala.

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[music]

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I’ve tried two years now

00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:54.999
and just go back to the immigration and they
say this, you know, my, explain my problem.

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But, you know, sometimes they hear you, so
they give you paper, but sometimes not.

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[music]

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I could see some difference,
but we still continue

00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:14.999
to have them piling and piling and piling.

00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:19.999
[music]

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For me the solution is
in Guatemala, not here.

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It is in Guatemala that changes must be made.
The people need better opportunities for work,

00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:34.999
the better opportunities for
education, more social justice

00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:39.999
and above all, security for their lives.

00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:44.999
[music]

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Here, you can, I mean scream or
yell and… and… and to fight and…

00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:54.999
and to be somebody what you want and that’s
what most of my… my people want us to

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live peaceful and to be, I
have, to be, to live free.

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[sil.]